Moog goes Eurorack:Satan complains of sudden chill Mother-32

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Moog goes Eurorack:Satan complains of sudden chill Mother-32

Post by dumbledog » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:06 pm

It's here, the Mother 32 is here

Short answer: Stand-alone semi-modular synth, but it can be rackmounted as a 60HP, 26mm Eurorack module. Doesn't look like you can buy the module sans case atm, but they do have a few 60hp rack options on their site.

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Hella comprehensive manual: http://www.moogmusic.com/sites/default/ ... st_Run.pdf

Specs:

VOLTAGE CONTROLLED OSCILLATOR
Single VCO with simultaneous Sawtooth and Pulse wave Outputs (+/-5V)
1 V/Octave from 8Hz to 8KHz (16KHz max with LFO/CV)
Panel Frequency control (+/-1 Octave)
Toggle Selector for waveform routed to the mixer
Pulse Width control
Linear FM and 1V/Octave Exponential FM inputs (+/-5V)


NOISE
Output normalled to Ext Audio input
White Noise output (+/-5V)

VOLTAGE CONTROLLED MIXER
Crossfades between selected VCO waveform and Ext Audio input (normalled to White Noise)
Mix CV input (+/-5V)

VOLTAGE CONTROLLED FILTER
20Hz to 20KHz switchable Low Pass/High Pass 4-pole Transistor Ladder Filter with voltage controlled Resonance
VCF Cutoff input (+/-5V)
VCF Resonance input (+/-5V)
VCF Output (+/-5V)


VOLTAGE CONTROLLED AMPLIFIER
Selectable CV Source: EG or ON (drone)
VCA CV input (0 to +8V in EG mode and +/-5V in ON mode, summed with signals from ON/EG switch)
Output Volume Control (VCA Out and Line/Headphone Out)
VCA output (+/-5V) and rear panel 1/4" Headphone/Audio Output (+/-1.7V peak)

LOW FREQUENCY OSCILLATOR
Square wave output (+/-5V)
Triangle wave output (+/-5V)
Selectable waveshape to VCO and VCF MOD sections
Panel Rate control .1Hz to 350Hz (600Hz max)
LFO Rate CV input (+/-5V)

ENVELOPE GENERATOR
Variable controls for Attack and Decay
Sustain ON/OFF for single-trigger (ASD) or multi-trigger (AD) behavior
External Gate input (0 to +5V; Tolerant of 10V gates)
EG output (0 to +7.5V)

VCO MODULATION
Selectable Source: EG/VCO MOD or LFO (EG normalled to VCO MOD in)
VCO Mod input (normalled to EG/VCO MOD switch position)
Variable Modulation Amount control
Selectable Modulation Destination: VCO Pitch or PWM (PWM summed with Pulse Width panel control)

VCF MODULATION
Selectable Source: EG or LFO
Variable Modulation Amount control
Selectable VCF Modulation Polarity (+/-)

VOLTAGE CONTROLLED MIXER/ATTENUATOR
Voltage controlled crossfade/mix circuit for mixing two DC coupled signals
Mix 1 Input (Normalled to ground)
Mix 2 Input (Normalled to +5V)
Mix Control CV input (-5V to +5V)
Mix Output: Un-inverted output (-5 to +5V)

MULTIPLE
1x input 2x output signal multiplier
Mult Input: Buffered signal
Mult Outputs: 1 and 2


KEYBOARD
Single octave 13-note keyboard (In Step Edit Mode this is used to select, mute and enable sequencer steps.)
Octave Up/Down buttons select from 8 available octave settings
Glide Time control
KB CV output (-5 to +5V)
Gate Output (0 to +5V)

SEQUENCER
Dual-mode 32 step sequencer with 64 sequence locations
Performance Modes:
- In KB Mode, the Keyboard is used to play the instrument, enter sequence data and transpose sequences.
- In Step Mode, the keyboard functions as the step sequencer interface and is used to enable and mute steps, update note data and select sequence banks.
Each sequence step includes: Note Value, Gate Length (Tie), Rest On/Off, Accent On/Off, Glide On/Off and Ratchet count (up to 4 note-repeats occurring in the duration of a single note)
Sequencer Panel Controls: Tempo, Swing, Run/Stop, Hold, and Reset
Sequencer Control Inputs: Tempo, Run/Stop (also used for sync), Reset and Hold
Sequencer Control Outputs: KB, Gate, Accent Pulse

PATCHBAY
The patchbay contains 32 patch points (3.5mm)
Available Inputs: (dude just look at the schematic above)

ASSIGNABLE OUTPUT
• Multipurpose control output for selecting from 16 available functions: Sequencer Accent, Sequencer Clock, Sequencer Clock /2 Sequencer Clock /4, Decimated "Ramp”, Decimated "Saw”, Decimated "Triangle”, Stepped Random, STEP 1, MIDI Note On Velocity, MIDI Channel Aftertouch, MIDI Pitch Bend, MIDI CC1 Mod Wheel, MIDI CC2, MIDI CC4 and MIDI CC7

SPECS
• Dimensions: 12.57“W x 4.21“H (with knobs) x 5.24“D
• Weight: 3.5 lbs.
• Power Consumption: 2.8W
• Included Power Supply: 100-250VAC, 50-60Hz, +12VDC 1A
• Patchbay: 32x 3.5mm jacks
• Rear Panel Audio Out: ¼” Headphone / Audio

EURORACK SPECS
• Certified Eurorack gateway drug
• Current Draw: 230mA (+12V – from 10-pin header)
• Mounting Dims: 60HP (.69” 26mm Module Depth)
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Post by jdkee » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:38 pm

Is one VCO is better than no VCOs?

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Post by Dcramer » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:13 pm

Was it "hot" in temperature ?
Was it "cake" shaped ?
:hmm:

Cause I can't help thinking that this thing, at that price, is gonna sell like:

F :banana: CKING !!! H :nana: T !!! C :bananaguitar: KES !!!

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Post by JohnLRice » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:20 pm

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

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Post by silkynight » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:55 pm

Hopefully they produced 6 zillions unit already.... The waiting game is starting.... :yay:

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Post by Robert McLeod » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:59 pm

Ranking high on my lifetime chart of misses/near-hits:

I stood outside of the door to that room at Knobcon today, thought briefly about going in, then walked away when I was asked to surrender my phone. Curiously I am not someone who is considered attached to my smartphone.

sigh... :despair:

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Post by dumbledog » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:14 pm

Word 'round the GS campfire from some folks who went to Knobcon say it's rackable but also stand-alone, again a la the System-1m. Still no word on what the VCO actually is -- if it's just a switchable thing like the Werkstatt or more akin to the Voyager/FreqBox.

It's funny, I actually don't have a Eurorack built myself yet, but uh....

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... yeah. Foogerheads have long been clamoring for a VCA since that's been pretty much the only thing left to make a full-on modular from the various Moogerfoogers, and now we'll get one in a way (though again I guess the Werkstat would do the trick). I still want to get a small 90hp deal like maybe Pittsburgh's System 10.1+ and fill the rest with Maths/disting, but this thing may go a long way as well.

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Post by guestt » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:14 pm

32 patch points!! :banana:

Werkstatt + some of the mods in Eurorack format maybe?

1 osc is absolutely fine by me!

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Post by bob the r0bot » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:34 pm

I feel like this has to be a trick somehow.

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Post by ignatius » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:39 pm

nice to have moog join the party. come on in! the water is warm!

much filter.. so ladder.
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Post by guestt » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:39 pm

Haha! I know what you mean bob the robot...


...but that would be cruel beyond all reason and the perpetrator would never be able to show their face in synth land ever again!

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Post by synthesymphony » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:45 pm

:hyper:

I just ordered a Werkstatt, and now this! Too excited. Words.

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Post by progfusion74 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:24 pm

dumbledog wrote:Word 'round the GS campfire from some folks who went to Knobcon say it's rackable but also stand-alone, again a la the System-1m. Still no word on what the VCO actually is -- if it's just a switchable thing like the Werkstatt or more akin to the Voyager/FreqBox.

It's funny, I actually don't have a Eurorack built myself yet, but uh....

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... yeah. Foogerheads have long been clamoring for a VCA since that's been pretty much the only thing left to make a full-on modular from the various Moogerfoogers, and now we'll get one in a way (though again I guess the Werkstat would do the trick). I still want to get a small 90hp deal like maybe Pittsburgh's System 10.1+ and fill the rest with Maths/disting, but this thing may go a long way as well.
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Post by TifaretMusic » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:39 pm

Very interesting, I assume/hope this will be actually made to Eurorack standards rather than Moog's, 3.5 jacks, true 1v/oct, etc. Only thing that potentially bugs me is only one VCO, a lot of the Moog sound to me is how good the oscillators sound detuned. Wonder if they have further/expansion modules in mind?
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Post by progfusion74 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:42 pm

TifaretMusic wrote:Very interesting, I assume/hope this will be actually made to Eurorack standards rather than Moog's, 3.5 jacks, true 1v/oct, etc. Only thing that potentially bugs me is only one VCO, a lot of the Moog sound to me is how good the oscillators sound detuned. Wonder if they have further/expansion modules in mind?
I sure hope so. I would LOOOOVE the CP-251 in Eurorack format.

On the Sub37, a single oscillator sounds pretty darn good, especially with the filter choices, but it's really when you add the second one and detune just a little that that thing begins to scream. Very curious what this VCO sounds like.

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Post by TifaretMusic » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:09 am

Someone on Gearslutz who saw it at the con said it was definitely 3.5 jacks.
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Post by xonetacular » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:53 am

hoping this is just the start and there is a possibility of individual modules to make a full system down the line

or not as I would need another case

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Post by rjungemann » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:10 am

One VCO ಠ_ಠ
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Post by dumbledog » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:12 am

Other info from the GS thread:

* Envelope is the chincy AD/ASR type from the Werkstatt
* 10-11", so maybe 50hp mounted
* noise source
* midi to cv of course but no midi out
* wooden end cheeks because lmao Moog

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Post by enj_music » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:13 am

rjungemann wrote:One VCO ಠ_ಠ
No different than the Pittsburgh Synth Box, and lots of people love using that.


I hope that if this product sees a lot of success (which it hopefully will), Moog will recognize the Eurorack community's want for more Eurorack Moog modules. A Voyager-style LP/HP filter (perhaps with an option to activate the newer multidrive option), classic continuous-shape oscillator, and overdriving mixer would be a nice small start

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Post by Geaux » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:17 am

Kinda sounds like moogs version of the synth box as enj just stated. If its all it says it does it'll be a great starter for someone who wants to get into eurorack with a brand they are familiar with(if they have prior synth experience) without having to drop that $600 on case instead to start.

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Post by quadrupole » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:18 am

Very interesting! Moog'so in, who's next? My bet is Korg.

I'm interested to know if the Mother32 will be based on moog heritage (eg the modulars of old, or the model D), or if it will be in line with their current products.

My next question is how did they make it so cheap? $599, and it includes a full featured sequencer? An Atlantis wil set you back $699, and a complex osc is usually $599...

Can't wait to hear it!

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Post by ignatius » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:29 am

quadrupole wrote: $599, and it includes a full featured sequencer?
"full featured" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone... especially when it comes to sequencers.

i suspect it's based on new things. releasing their moog format $15k+ daddy of a modular then sticking the same things in eurorack for 1/10 the price would be a weird thing to do, ay? to me it would raise an eyebrow anyways.

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Post by enj_music » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:36 am

If they release this, I will buy it.

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Post by TifaretMusic » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:39 am

quadrupole wrote:Very interesting! Moog'so in, who's next? My bet is Korg.

I'm interested to know if the Mother32 will be based on moog heritage (eg the modulars of old, or the model D), or if it will be in line with their current products.

My next question is how did they make it so cheap? $599, and it includes a full featured sequencer? An Atlantis wil set you back $699, and a complex osc is usually $599...

Can't wait to hear it!
You can get a Beatstep or SQ1 for under a hundred bucks so this isn't really that weird IMO
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