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Post by matttech » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:22 pm

Tumulishroomaroom wrote:Two recent LIP-centric jams :

This one into the Tip Top Audio Forbidden Planet :

http://www.instagram.com/p/Bq-dGgShReK/
Enjoyed that a lot :bananaguitar:

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Post by StrangeAttraction » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:51 am

Tumulishroomaroom wrote:Two recent LIP-centric jams :

This one into the Tip Top Audio Forbidden Planet :

http://www.instagram.com/p/Bq-dGgShReK/

This one into the Versos Bark Filter Processor; I then sequence the individual bands with a bunch of enveloppes and LFOs.

http://www.instagram.com/p/BrfWNBglrO6/

Incredible how much more of a Loquelic Iteritas the Percido is. It's twice the size the but five times the sound. And I already though the original was pretty much of bottomless pit of crazy good sounds.
Viciously good sound you’re getting out of your LIP!
I’ve got a LI on the way. What other modules pair well with it? I suppose lots of envelopes for modulation?

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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:39 am

Thanks @matttech ! Eagerly awaiting Zadar to modulate these beasts (LIP & Bark Filter !)

Thanks @StrangeAttraction ! I love feeding rhythmic enveloppes into LI. Quadra or anything will work, but attenuate ! Shades/Triatt/QuadAtt... one of those is mandatory next to it

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Post by RetroNice » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:46 am

I started looking at the Iteritas range... is there an easy way to grasp the differences between Ataraxic, Manis, Alter, Cursus, Loquelic... percido (which I think it is the Alter with more parameters exposed to cv)

Only started recently with Modular, so, sorry if this is a silly question.
I am going to check the manuals from their site... to dig deeper into these modules

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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:37 am

- Basimilus Iteritas Alter is a drum voice that sounds a bit IDM/glitchy, very versatile, can do any sort of percussion.
- Manis is the same thing but more geared towards industrial, darker sounds
- Cursus is their take on wavetable
- Ataraxic Iteritas is an expansion of their Translatron based on Linear Feedback Shift Register (think 8bit)
- Loquelic is their take on a complex oscillator
- Loquelic Iteritas Percido is the same but much more expanded, with more controls, a complete voice.

This is a very simplified version of what each offer. They all have a dedicated thread here I believe + many demos. BIA and Loquelic in particular are very popular and already classics in most books :)

They are all proudly digital as well.

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Post by RetroNice » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:20 pm

Tumulishroomaroom wrote:- Basimilus Iteritas Alter is a drum voice that sounds a bit IDM/glitchy, very versatile, can do any sort of percussion.
- Manis is the same thing but more geared towards industrial, darker sounds
- Cursus is their take on wavetable
- Ataraxic Iteritas is an expansion of their Translatron based on Linear Feedback Shift Register (think 8bit)
- Loquelic is their take on a complex oscillator
- Loquelic Iteritas Percido is the same but much more expanded, with more controls, a complete voice.

This is a very simplified version of what each offer. They all have a dedicated thread here I believe + many demos. BIA and Loquelic in particular are very popular and already classics in most books :)

They are all proudly digital as well.
Thank you! This will get me started for sure. :hail:

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Post by NoLegs » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:06 am

LIP, mixed with Erica Synths Fusion VCO and Filter 8 as a sine wive, ring modulated with the Erica Synths Fusion Ring Mod. And some Nicolas Cage samples through the Morphagene.

[video][/video]

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Post by induktor » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:07 am

NoLegs wrote:LIP, mixed with Erica Synths Fusion VCO and Filter 8 as a sine wive, ring modulated with the Erica Synths Fusion Ring Mod. And some Nicolas Cage samples through the Morphagene.

[video][/video]
Great stuff oh legless one!

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Post by NoLegs » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:14 am

That was unintentional I swear :deadbanana:

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Post by thetwlo » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:57 am

so this looks like it uses a Teensy for the DSP, which to me, sounds under powered at times when heavily modulated. Sounds thin and can't keep up.
It that what it uses? and can it/will it be replaced with a more capable processor? I know there's a new Teensy. Not sure this is what's used here, but looks easily upgraded.

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Post by deuS2eed1rou » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:42 pm

thetwlo wrote:so this looks like it uses a Teensy for the DSP
The DSP board seems to be a custom design by NE and uses an XMOS chip. Is not
ARM-based like the beefier teensies. I didn't look closer at the XMOS chips
since there's no open source toolchain available, but IIRC it's more of a
many-core DSP architecture.

So you highly likely can't drop a teensy in there. Would nevertheless be
interesting to figure out the pinout of the CPU board for DIY-experiments when
the module gets boring.

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Post by synonymist » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:38 pm

Dragonaut wrote:
cptnal wrote:
Dragonaut wrote:Another one with Loquelic on bass duties and drones supported by a Dixie II+ run through an e440 filter.

https://soundcloud.com/acaciabridge/even-me
Love it! :yay:

All the way through that channel one of my Batumi was keeping perfect time, like it was clocking your bass. What are the chances?

I'm discovering that LI loves my LxD, especially for bassier things. :bananaguitar:
Thanks again man! I can't wait to pair this thing with a low pass gate. Still haven't cracked it as a percussive module unless I'm using it to FM something else though.
Hello. That is a lovely track. Very well done!

New to LI, I am finding it to be a musical, versatile, and fun module.

Surely you tried LI with a LPG by now. :) Nonetheless here are two tracks featuring LI with LxD, using only the LxD's CV input, not Strike. LI and Piston Honda Mark III are the only sound sources.

These take some patience, but hopefully the sounds will reward. Session notes are at each track's webpage:

https://soundcloud.com/synonymist/otic-force-1

https://soundcloud.com/synonymist/otic-force-2

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Post by Grom » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:43 pm

anyone got an idea how close I can get to a percido with a loquelic, intellijel quadra + expander and a sinc defero to route enveloppes?

EDIT : and a vca offcourse

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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:59 am

I guess you could get quite close, but in much more hp; and at the cost of much less interactivity. You'd also need an attenuverter for the enveloppes rather than an attenuator. You won't be able the change modes or carrier by cv though.

Here's a new little insta snippet with the Percido into the Bark Filter Processor :

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsnuU9nhHce/

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Post by Dragonaut » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:02 am

synonymist wrote: Hello. That is a lovely track. Very well done!
Hey, thanks!
https://soundcloud.com/acaciabridge (IDM, Ambient, Bass, Downtempo)
www.instagram.com/dr_science_phd (synths, hikes, and views.)

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Post by Grom » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:26 am

Tumulishroomaroom wrote:I guess you could get quite close, but in much more hp; and at the cost of much less interactivity. You'd also need an attenuverter for the enveloppes rather than an attenuator. You won't be able the change modes or carrier by cv though.
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yeah I understand what you mean except I use my vca's and quadra with other modules as well. Was thinking of pairing my batumi with a lapsus os. Could reserve one channel on this which would solve my attenuverting problemen and even give me an xtra output.

You're right on the carriermodes tho. since I have a loquelic, might be worth seeing how far I can push it

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Post by thetwlo » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:39 am

deuS2eed1rou wrote:
thetwlo wrote:so this looks like it uses a Teensy for the DSP
The DSP board seems to be a custom design by NE and uses an XMOS chip. Is not
ARM-based like the beefier teensies. I didn't look closer at the XMOS chips
since there's no open source toolchain available, but IIRC it's more of a
many-core DSP architecture.

So you highly likely can't drop a teensy in there. Would nevertheless be
interesting to figure out the pinout of the CPU board for DIY-experiments when
the module gets boring.
you, of course, are correct. THANKS!!

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Post by mikmanner » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:17 am

Can someone tell me what the 8 jack's on the bottom right of LIP do? I can't work it out Image
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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:20 am

Well they are CV inputs of course. The 4 top ones are identical to the ones in the original LI, that is they influence the 4 parameters (Morph, Fold, Mod, Damp). The 4 bottom ones are CV inputs for the enveloppe sends of the same parameters - which is unique to the LIP.

The knobs become offset when you plug a CV into the inputs, and like the LI, the LIP is best used with attenuators.

This is all in the manual by the way, which is pretty well done.

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Post by mikmanner » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:54 am

Tumulishroomaroom wrote:Well they are CV inputs of course. The 4 top ones are identical to the ones in the original LI, that is they influence the 4 parameters (Morph, Fold, Mod, Damp). The 4 bottom ones are CV inputs for the enveloppe sends of the same parameters - which is unique to the LIP.

The knobs become offset when you plug a CV into the inputs, and like the LI, the LIP is best used with attenuators.

This is all in the manual by the way, which is pretty well done.
Ah thank you yes I understand, so I can modulate the send amount with the bottom 4 and the parameter value with the top. Thanks! I was looking through the manual before I posted but I think my brain just stopped me from understanding that section :)
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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:36 am

Yes exactly. Be advised as well that the six enveloppe sends (two for pitch as well) are attenuverters so 0 is at 12. Its a fabulous module, I'm sure you'll have fun with it.

In the meantime here's a little snippet again :

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtQwj1sh6uE/

Loquelic into the Bark Filter. Definitely my favorite combination at the moment.

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Post by base615 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:55 am

Today I learnt that LI into Xaoc Kamieniec and a bit of glide from the Varigate can do a semi reasonable impression of a lead guitar.

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Post by synonymist » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:26 pm

synonymist wrote:...here are two tracks featuring LI with LxD...
Now after more time with Loquelic Iteritas, I like the module even more. My only wish is that it enabled switching algorithms with CV.

In these two pieces, accompanied by Tš-L and Piston Honda Mark III, LI is in the center as a variously subby, squelchy, and morphing bass AND as percussion. In the second piece especially, LI sounds credibly like hand percussion. Creepy. :)

Session notes are at each track's webpage:

https://soundcloud.com/synonymist/new-trio-the-warmup

https://soundcloud.com/synonymist/new-trio-the-get-down

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Post by ludu357 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:57 pm

just bought one from my local store Robotspeak, and wow! that thing is almost alive!
from deep bass to extreme noise with fire and fury at every step


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Post by quadrupole » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:40 pm

NoLegs wrote:LIP, mixed with Erica Synths Fusion VCO and Filter 8 as a sine wive, ring modulated with the Erica Synths Fusion Ring Mod. And some Nicolas Cage samples through the Morphagene.

[video][/video]
This is sick!!! Love the sound of the LIP. And your percussive sounds are always so awesome.

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