O|D ER-301: Sound Computer (Temporarily Unavailable)

[hyena]

just want to re-state my love for the er-301 platform by posting one of my latest albums which was totally er-301 centric.
this is noise, so not for everyone's tastes. i loved how i was able to achieve exactly what i was searching for: dynamic, almost pointillistic bursts coupled with a lot of attention on spatialization. the patches were carefully programmed but then the recordings were fully improvised. er-301 coupled with some other modules, my modded marantz pmd 222 as tape delay and some spring reverb action. it was released by the good folk at Elli Records:





if you want more on the same label you'll find my latest one (Niente è vero, tutto è permesso) that features the 301 heavily but not so predominantly as in Orc.

[zengomi]

Beautiful and inspiring, Giona!

[hyena]

Thanks for your kind words!

[brandonlogic]

here's another one where im using er301 as a live looper for acoustic drums.
works so well for this!

[crumb dinger]

These looping sketches are excellent. I've been searching for ways to use my 301 beyond mixing/end of chain/recording in my rack now that it's gotten larger and I've added specialized modules. Looks like automated looping is a perfect application.

[Luke2020]

bump... how are you using the filters in it?

[interpolate]

I want one of these so bad. Stupid covid-19.

[Tumulishroomaroom]

bump... how are you using the filters in it?

I was surprised at how good the filters are actually. I’ve used the low pass a lot in a mini system and it sounds great.

[leterell]

bump... how are you using the filters in it?

I've my system setup so that there are two stereo channels put out of as well as mixed in the 301, one for melodies/tones, one for beats. I shape the channels' total output with hi and low pass filters, and have set up wet reverb mixer channels for both, and have also set up hi/low pass for those, practically opening the filters in order to feed signal to the reverbs. For this i use them mostly with low resonance, to make them as transparent as possible. And it works great.

Naturally my 16n/sweet sixteen is an absolute prerequisite for this.

I've used the filters for some creative shaping of various sources, and i find them lacking in character in a good way. I like them for transparent shaping of signals. Not what I'd prefer for synth duties, on the other hand I've toyed with the idea of building a 4 voice synth block in there if I'd get the cv/gate stuff shunted in there somehow.

[Luke2020]

bump... how are you using the filters in it?

I was surprised at how good the filters are actually. I’ve used the low pass a lot in a mini system and it sounds great.

naively, i would have thought that all digital filters are basically doing the same thing in the same way. how does it actually vary?

[Luke2020]

bump... how are you using the filters in it?

I've my system setup so that there are two stereo channels put out of as well as mixed in the 301, one for melodies/tones, one for beats. I shape the channels' total output with hi and low pass filters, and have set up wet reverb mixer channels for both, and have also set up hi/low pass for those, practically opening the filters in order to feed signal to the reverbs. For this i use them mostly with low resonance, to make them as transparent as possible. And it works great.

Naturally my 16n/sweet sixteen is an absolute prerequisite for this.

I've used the filters for some creative shaping of various sources, and i find them lacking in character in a good way. I like them for transparent shaping of signals. Not what I'd prefer for synth duties, on the other hand I've toyed with the idea of building a 4 voice synth block in there if I'd get the cv/gate stuff shunted in there somehow.

what do you think for a maths and a MI shapes - sufficient for manual control?
clearly, the maths could serve other purposes.
shapes is relatively cheap and small.

[leterell]

bump... how are you using the filters in it?

I've my system setup so that there are two stereo channels put out of as well as mixed in the 301, one for melodies/tones, one for beats. I shape the channels' total output with hi and low pass filters, and have set up wet reverb mixer channels for both, and have also set up hi/low pass for those, practically opening the filters in order to feed signal to the reverbs. For this i use them mostly with low resonance, to make them as transparent as possible. And it works great.

Naturally my 16n/sweet sixteen is an absolute prerequisite for this.

I've used the filters for some creative shaping of various sources, and i find them lacking in character in a good way. I like them for transparent shaping of signals. Not what I'd prefer for synth duties, on the other hand I've toyed with the idea of building a 4 voice synth block in there if I'd get the cv/gate stuff shunted in there somehow.

what do you think for a maths and a MI shapes - sufficient for manual control?
clearly, the maths could serve other purposes.
shapes is relatively cheap and small.

Well i never had a maths so can't comment, but it has 4 channels, and can produce plenty of different waveforms. So 4 waves or voltages there? What's mi shapes? Stages? That I've considered myself also. Nice faders, plenty of other use cases in a case also.

For me the 16 faders of 16n are essential. Not only because 16 controls, but also i2c so the analog Inputs stay available. Of course this has moulded my use of the module significantly.

[Luke2020]

sorry i meant shades
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/mutable-i ... hades-2020

it will depend on what i'm using the 301 for, ofc. five offsets, with the maths too. dunno,

[leterell]

sorry i meant shades
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/mutable-i ... hades-2020

it will depend on what i'm using the 301 for, ofc. five offsets, with the maths too. dunno,

Well. I'm assuming you don't have a 301 yet. The 301 is as open as people's styles are different. Might not fit your bill at all. I'd say get one, have a dabble, and then see what you'd like to get in addition. Maybe you build an evolving looper-mangler that doesn't need modulation?

Alot of people like gate sources with theirs, mine are always unpatched.

[d2ba]

Orthogonal Devices ER-301 Sound Computer vs Assimil8or Phase Modulation Sampler in sample quality for pitch shifting?
Anyone have both

[tommygee]

Orthogonal Devices ER-301 Sound Computer vs Assimil8or Phase Modulation Sampler in sample quality for pitch shifting?
Anyone have both

My answer coopied from another thread:

I sold the Assimil8or 1 1/2 years ago, and got a Er-301 instead. I much prefer the Er-301 except for one thing: Sampling quality of the A8R is phenomenal. Especially when transposing a sample downwards - the sample preserves presence, punch and clarity in a shocking good way. I owned a Emulator III (Keyboard version) back in the day, and it had the sample quality when playing a sample in the lower range.

[x2mirko]

Orthogonal Devices ER-301 Sound Computer vs Assimil8or Phase Modulation Sampler in sample quality for pitch shifting?
Anyone have both

I have both (for different tasks). Is there anything in particular you would like to hear? I find the pitch shifting of both good enough for my purposes. If you want to hear a comparison with any specific sample material, upload it and I can make a recording for you. I would generally say that the assimil8or is preferable for one shots and very accurate manipulation, while the er-301 is much nicer for general work with audio buffers and more advanced things. But it's not as much about audio quality (both are really good) and more about the interface and the interaction with the module.

[soundastic]

Everytme I see one of the OD units, images of the Star Wars imperial command decks pop into my head.

[brandonlogic]

heres another one, er301 on looping the kimballa and doing a little granular with the streatch unit.

[brandonlogic]

Sweet sixteen controlling 16 fixed filters.
Frequencies of filters set up the same as the Buchla 296e
Maths controlling resonance for all filters.
saw wave from rubicon going in.
Using band pass filters from Joes Accents units found here:
https://github.com/SuperNiCd/Accents

[Hovercraft]

Sweet sixteen controlling 16 fixed filters.
Frequencies of filters set up the same as the Buchla 296e
Maths controlling resonance for all filters.
saw wave from rubicon going in.
Using band pass filters from Joes Accents units...

Nice! I use bandpass filters a lot in the ER-301, but never tried as many bands. A little hard to judge with just a saw wave, but it's certainly different from the 296e sound--as is everything else. With the sweet 16, you were using Ochd to modulate the gain of some channels? I have a 16n and I can see where those extra cv inputs might be handy. I think it would be worth setting up tilt and pan controls like the Fumana and Bark filters. Those parameters add some interesting animation to fixed filter banks with a small number of cv inputs.

[brandonlogic]

Edit- double post

[brandonlogic]

Sweet sixteen controlling 16 fixed filters.
Frequencies of filters set up the same as the Buchla 296e
Maths controlling resonance for all filters.
saw wave from rubicon going in.
Using band pass filters from Joes Accents units...

Nice! I use bandpass filters a lot in the ER-301, but never tried as many bands. A little hard to judge with just a saw wave, but it's certainly different from the 296e sound--as is everything else. With the sweet 16, you were using Ochd to modulate the gain of some channels? I have a 16n and I can see where those extra cv inputs might be handy. I think it would be worth setting up tilt and pan controls like the Fumana and Bark filters. Those parameters add some interesting animation to fixed filter banks with a small number of cv inputs.

yeah i wasnt going for the 296e in terms of sound at all, i dont even know what it sounds like, i just meant in terms of choosing the frequencies i did, i used the same ones as listed on the 296e.
Either way, I’m really impressed how nice these band pass filters sound for being a digital filters.
whats cool about this is resonance and bandwidth cv control, the resonance can get quite out of control haha i didnt show that in the video, i kept it more tame.
yeah im using the Ochd to modulate the gain of some channels.

[roya]

For those looking, There is one for sale (UK) on Elektronuts forum.

[a773]

Hi hi, maybe the thread should be (temporarily) renamed "un-available now"