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Re: Today my small discovery was...

Post by mkasthe » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:16 pm

Patching noise in the "In" input of Rings can make some pan flute / wind instrument sounds (still learning how to wiggle so this is probably well known)
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Post by lauprellim » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:12 pm

Always was a bit confused as to why Pittsburgh Modular's Micro Sequencer didn't seem to recognize external clock control occasionally. I had all the settings correct on the unit...sometimes the external clock worked and sometimes it didn't.

Last week I was doing a ratcheting demo for some students -- taking 4ms Quad Clock distributor into the micro sequencer -- and this problem arose. The Micro Sequencer didn't step through the sequence even as QCD was chugging away.

Suddenly it occurred to me: not enough voltage! Patched the QCD output into a spare VCA, jacked up the pot, patched the output of the VCA into the Micro Sequencer's external clock input -- and bam, no problem. Worked perfectly. Turned the pot down on the VCA to test theory, and just as expected, Micro Sequencer didn't do a thing. Very good learning experience for me and our students.

Now I know the great wisdom: check voltages before thinking module is temperamental!
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Post by BlinkyLights » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:04 am

lauprellim wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:12 pm
Always was a bit confused as to why Pittsburgh Modular's Micro Sequencer didn't seem to recognize external clock control occasionally. I had all the settings correct on the unit...sometimes the external clock worked and sometimes it didn't.

Last week I was doing a ratcheting demo for some students -- taking 4ms Quad Clock distributor into the micro sequencer -- and this problem arose. The Micro Sequencer didn't step through the sequence even as QCD was chugging away.

Suddenly it occurred to me: not enough voltage! Patched the QCD output into a spare VCA, jacked up the pot, patched the output of the VCA into the Micro Sequencer's external clock input -- and bam, no problem. Worked perfectly. Turned the pot down on the VCA to test theory, and just as expected, Micro Sequencer didn't do a thing. Very good learning experience for me and our students.

Now I know the great wisdom: check voltages before thinking module is temperamental!
Today my small discovery was remembering how lucky some students are having classes on subjects like this.

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Re: Today my small discovery was...

Post by lauprellim » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:59 pm

BlinkyLights wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:04 am
Today my small discovery was remembering how lucky some students are having classes on subjects like this.
Thanks! We’re just trying to keep educating our young people so they can have as many advantages as possible when it comes time to apply for jobs out there in the real world.
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Post by PhineasFreak » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:06 pm

lauprellim wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:12 pm
...Suddenly it occurred to me: not enough voltage! Patched the QCD output into a spare VCA, jacked up the pot, patched the output of the VCA into the Micro Sequencer's external clock input -- and bam, no problem. Worked perfectly...
many vcas dont amplify - this often wont solve the problem!

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Post by ToddOMG » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:10 am

That using a an envelope into a S+H module, then running that in sync with a clock to Plaits model input is pure magic.

Inputting the envelope directly into model doesn't behave or 'latch' to the new model in a predictable way every time. Which may or may not be what you're going for...

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Re: Today my small discovery was...

Post by Underwood » Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:11 am

It's fairly easy to unbend the face plate of an expensive module that was damaged during transport. I would habe preferred to not make this discovery but what can you do ...

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:41 am

lauprellim wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:12 pm
Always was a bit confused as to why Pittsburgh Modular's Micro Sequencer didn't seem to recognize external clock control occasionally. I had all the settings correct on the unit...sometimes the external clock worked and sometimes it didn't.

Last week I was doing a ratcheting demo for some students -- taking 4ms Quad Clock distributor into the micro sequencer -- and this problem arose. The Micro Sequencer didn't step through the sequence even as QCD was chugging away.

Suddenly it occurred to me: not enough voltage! Patched the QCD output into a spare VCA, jacked up the pot, patched the output of the VCA into the Micro Sequencer's external clock input -- and bam, no problem. Worked perfectly. Turned the pot down on the VCA to test theory, and just as expected, Micro Sequencer didn't do a thing. Very good learning experience for me and our students.

Now I know the great wisdom: check voltages before thinking module is temperamental!
This is actually partially correct. Check the QCD level and you'll notice that it outputs a different level when patched to the MS, compared to when patched to another module. It is a combination of a low input impedance on the MS (there is basically only a diode between the jack and the processor) and an unbuffered clock output jack on the clock source module. The MS drops the level of the incoming signal by a large margin and that's why a lot of clock modules won't work with it. That's a good lesson for your students! :hihi:
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Post by S0210 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:20 am

Today I discovered that I made a (small) mistake.
A few weeks ago I added a cute sequencer to my system. MFB SEQ-02 comes with 6+6 outputs for triggers or/and CVs . Black, smooth, handy. The number of triggers available increased dramatically in my 6u rack. But I have to realize that ever since the improvement I feel obligated to use the sequencer. And whenever I use it my tune is getting flat & boring. What's more the number of minutes I spend with patching is dropping significantly. Joy factor ruined. The desire is disappearing to go to my secret cupboard and to switch on the machine.
So that's it. I think I need to remove the sequencer and stick to the good old LFO + SH/quantizer combo. :despair:

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Post by McMij » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:59 am

Noise into PWM on a monosynth bass voice results in a heck of a lot of dirt, but in the best way possible, especially with a nice filter and additional triangle sub oscillator. Oh yeh :twisted:

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Post by electricanada » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:48 am

S0210 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:20 am
Today I discovered that I made a (small) mistake.
A few weeks ago I added a cute sequencer to my system. MFB SEQ-02 comes with 6+6 outputs for triggers or/and CVs . Black, smooth, handy. The number of triggers available increased dramatically in my 6u rack. But I have to realize that ever since the improvement I feel obligated to use the sequencer. And whenever I use it my tune is getting flat & boring. What's more the number of minutes I spend with patching is dropping significantly. Joy factor ruined. The desire is disappearing to go to my secret cupboard and to switch on the machine.
So that's it. I think I need to remove the sequencer and stick to the good old LFO + SH/quantizer combo. :despair:
Send the sequencer outs to filter cutoffs, S&H triggers, LFO cv ins, quantizer transpose, etc. Use it for anything but sequencing.
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Post by lauprellim » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:56 pm

Paranormal Patroler wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:41 am
This is actually partially correct. Check the QCD level and you'll notice that it outputs a different level when patched to the MS, compared to when patched to another module. It is a combination of a low input impedance on the MS (there is basically only a diode between the jack and the processor) and an unbuffered clock output jack on the clock source module. The MS drops the level of the incoming signal by a large margin and that's why a lot of clock modules won't work with it. That's a good lesson for your students! :hihi:
This is REALLY useful. Thanks a lot for posting.
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Post by Sleipnir » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:20 pm

S0210 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:20 am
I think I need to remove the sequencer and stick to the good old LFO + SH/quantizer combo. :despair:
What electriccanada said, or combine the seq with the LFO/SH for some magic

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Post by everythingcontinues » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:09 am

Running just about any of the Viznutcracker, sweet! app outputs from Ornament & Crime into Rings. I'm sure this has been done a zillion times, but it was new to me. Between all the different byte beat equations and their parameters and Rings' different modes, there is an incredibly vast potential of sound. I was modulating a simple AD envelope on the O&C output on the way into Rings to great effect. My next two ideas are to filter the audio going in and play with mixing different equations.

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Post by andandand » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:01 pm

I just got rings and wow. That’s what I learned today. Wow.

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Post by vhansen » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:31 pm

using quadrax in burst mode at audio rate to modulate phase on my WMD PDO - no vca needed!

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Post by Whelm » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:13 pm

I learned that my Music Thing Modular Spring can be used as a crossfader.

I probably should have known that years ago.

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Post by benofbrown » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:06 am

Monsoon (Clouds clone) doesn't need any audio input. I've got it going right now just with a fair bit of reverb and feedback and by modulating the position, size and texture.

I found this accidentally after turning off a session this morning where I had it full wet with "Freeze" engaged, which didn't restore when I powered it back on this afternoon but to my surprise started making noise so I've let it run for a while now.

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Post by Dr. Sketch-n-Etch » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 pm

Today (well, actually, two days ago) I discovered the source of perfect happiness.

Perfect happiness is having bags of 100 1% resistors in every value -- 44.2k, 45.3k, 46.4k, 47.5k, etc, etc.

Yageo 1% capacitors from Digikey have several desirable qualities: 1) they have nice thick leads (not those wimpy little leads so many resistors have today), 2) they come loose in the bag (not stuck on sticky paper tape), and 3) their stripes are painted in nice bright colors which are very easy to distinguish from one another, making reading their values a breeze. They are a quality product.

In lots of 100, they are 4.2 cents apiece, which is perhaps a tad pricey, but the joy that comes from having every value between, say, 1k and 1M is priceless. I don't actually have every value between 1k and 1M -- I have about half of them -- I'm missing some big gaps of values -- but I'm currently debating dropping a few hundred dollars to fill in my collection, and I've come to the conclusion that it's worth it.

It is also lovely to have 100 of every value of poly film cap in the E12 series between 1nF and 100nF (those lovely little Topmay boxes from Small Bear) -- this, along with the precision resistors, is an invaluable resource for building things like vocoders and filter banks with very specific properties.
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Post by hinterlands303 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:01 pm

Whelm wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:13 pm
I learned that my Music Thing Modular Spring can be used as a crossfader.

I probably should have known that years ago.
Which means it can also be used as a VCA!

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Post by thelowerrhythm » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:23 pm

Today I discovered the Odessa. The (*^#@! ODESSA.
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Post by Polyterative » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:36 am

I like the response I have from vactrols when pinging them with a bit of vinyl crackle noise from ableton, exspecially on DPO's FOLD vactrol. Makes it even more organic and alive
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Post by cptnal » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:52 am

I recently discovered that Bryan Ferry actually does sing "too much cheesecake too soon" in Editions of You, and it's not the misheard lyric I've believed it be all these years.

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:13 am

I plugged in my Omnimod after a long time and today I discovered what a mindblowing combination the Omnimod is with the ADDAC306. When I first came up with the ADDAC306 concept I obviously had modules such as the MI Frames in mind as good companions; modules that would allow you to repurpose the 306's A - B states into something far more complex, and expand on the possibilities of having hands-on control of multiple aspects of your system. Or modules like the Doepfer a-152 that would allow me to fire triggers/gates at specific levels of the A - B length. Super useful stuff to use with your ADDAC306.

It never crossed my mind, not until now, to use the Omnimod's phase mode, to control all for envelopes via the ADDAC306. Now I have four fully customizable curves, which I can quickly set start-end points for, swap the direction and go berzerk with in the middle of a set. Using the Omnimod to design the curves, using the ADDAC306 for quick and easy hands-on control of where things go, up-down, back-forth. I get the best of both worlds!

Wow.

Simply wow.
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msegarra wrote:
Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:36 pm
Audio rate sequencers as Osc? rungler like effect.

need : analog sequencer, osc, mixer.

take osc sine wave and put it into brains clock input.

use pressure points knobs to shape the wave forms from outputs 1-3.

send to mixer with original osc mixed in.

* also interesting is using something like DPO where you can take one of the pressure points channels and input it into 1voct input of OSC 1 or 2. Using the sync feature or FM on DPO also makes for a awesome sound. I use the RXMX to pan through the sounds sources.

also iw as wondering if you modulate the frequency on an osc can you make sort of a chord like effect on the ears by hearing the pattern 1 - 3 - 5 fast enough. i know this would not make a chord but was just interested in the idea.

another idea is sequencing an arpeggiator very fast.

hope some one enjoys this, not sure that its something i came up with by anymeans buts thought it was interesting.
Yeah it is an old mono synth trick: do an arpegio super fast and add reverb to your oscillator then it sounds like a chord :)

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