So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by MossGarden » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:23 am

I'm very interested in grabbing one of these but I can't seem to find out online if this mixer is DC coupled? Can it process CV?

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by wavecircle » Mon May 11, 2020 9:49 am

I had one recently, loved the functionality but it was noisy as hell. Intermittent crackling on channels 1 and 4, sounded really bad when moving the faders and I would get random crackles when the fader was fixed. New module, anyone else have this issue? I am kind of gutted because it's so good on paper.
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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by yellowecho » Mon May 11, 2020 9:58 am

I agree with others. The range of the Scan width takes time to dial in so I don't use it much. I mostly use the module as a 4 channel VCA and mixer. The panning is really useful and I love the tone of the gain knob.

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by BrokenBo » Tue May 12, 2020 2:51 am

wavecircle wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:49 am
I had one recently, loved the functionality but it was noisy as hell. Intermittent crackling on channels 1 and 4, sounded really bad when moving the faders and I would get random crackles when the fader was fixed. New module, anyone else have this issue? I am kind of gutted because it's so good on paper.
No this is not normal.

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

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BrokenBo wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 2:51 am
wavecircle wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:49 am
I had one recently, loved the functionality but it was noisy as hell. Intermittent crackling on channels 1 and 4, sounded really bad when moving the faders and I would get random crackles when the fader was fixed. New module, anyone else have this issue? I am kind of gutted because it's so good on paper.
No this is not normal.
It's been sent back. I would love another but I am not really trusting of this module. Would like to know if anyone else has had this issue.
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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by The Junglechrist » Tue May 12, 2020 3:42 am

I've been using it as my final mixer in my eurorack setup for a few years now. I LOVE the sound of it, the gain saturation on this thing is one of my favorite. I often find myself running tracks out of my computer to crunch those with it.
It is like most Verbos module a bit erratic in it's behaviour (center panning hard to achieve, weird know responses on the scan part) but I couldn't live without it.


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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by cannonball swandive » Tue May 12, 2020 4:57 am

Anyone have sound examples of an fxdf through a scan and pan? Wondering how they sound together. Was thinking about picking up a Rxmx but curious about pairing these two.

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by nios » Tue May 12, 2020 5:55 am

LIke others have said it's a bit weird to get it to do what you intended, the response doesn't quite seem linear sometimes, but it'll get there. Mine doesn't crackle and is quite clean. That one mentioned above sounded overall faulty, although it could be that the module is sensitive to PSU/system noise (this seems common in several Verbos modules to be practically allergic to some systems).

Considering S&P sometimes is my final stage and gets pretty crammed up, I almost wish it were slightly more spread out in HP, which is weird because I usually am fine with compactness. It's just such a key module that I'd want finer control over the gain/pan with bolted down pots, maybe I'd be able to dial it in easier that way. Otherwise, it does what I want.

It is indeed kind of like a stereo, panning RxMx (which I also have) only with four channels. However, RxMx has a very peculiar sound to swapping / morphing channels owing to its vactrols (which sound unusual among vactrols to boot - mine pings for seemingly forever, several seconds of very resonant, bright fade) whereas these functions are regular on the S&P's VCAs. My Rx also overall bleeds a tiny bit whereas I don't get that on Scan. Still it has its uses, as I really like that twangy/resonant metallic zing it adds to moving around channels, that and pinging it. However if I had to pick just one it'd be S&P; Rx is rather more limited in depth, but very unique-sounding so you'd have to be really-really sure you wanted that sound more than the S&P's functionality.

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by yellowecho » Tue May 12, 2020 12:39 pm

cannonball swandive wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 4:57 am
Anyone have sound examples of an fxdf through a scan and pan? Wondering how they sound together. Was thinking about picking up a Rxmx but curious about pairing these two.
I have a Fxdf/RxMx combo and a Verbos S&P.
Overall I prefer using the Fxdf with the RxMx because both use 6 bands. Of course, you can use the Fxdf with the S&P and it sounds great but you can't patch all outputs. If I were you, I wouldn't factor the Fxdf into your decision at all because it works well with both... instead, I'd ask yourself if you'd rather have 4 VCAs with panning(S&P) or a mixer with a strike vactrol(RxMx).

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by Bjarlstedt » Tue May 12, 2020 12:57 pm

I had the Fxdf and Rxmx combo but my unit had a problem with low levels on its outputs. There is where Scan & Pan really shines with its beautiful gain.

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Post by davidjames » Wed May 13, 2020 5:12 pm

As others have said, Scan&Pan has wonderful saturation starting at 9:00 on the gain knob. I had mine to the far right of my case as my end of chain mixer but recently moved it in between all my VCOs to force myself to use it as a waveform mixer. So far so good and I find myself using the center and width controls much more now, for whatever reason.

Here's a fun one...as a starting point, patch four Harmonic Osc direct outs to each S&P input, patch the other four to each S&P pan cv, patch any of the HO outs (or use another VCO) to center cv. Left and Right to individual Amp&Tone modules (everyone should have two of those!). Ping each ATC or open them up with slow modulation for drones. Takes some dialing in but there's a lot of brutally sweet spots to be found. Patching the pan cv modulators through VCAs first and modulating them with unsynced LFOs like Ochd would bring some more variation.
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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by The Junglechrist » Thu May 14, 2020 2:08 am

Little studip but often overlooked tricks it seems :
When used in a mono configuration, taking only the right output let you use the pan as a second vca, very usefulle for AM and tremolo.


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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by advrsry » Thu May 14, 2020 9:22 am

I sometimes use it as a mono mixer + send/return (pan).

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by Neither » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:23 am

Could someone please explain that what are the four red knobs supposed to do? I understand that the knobs are supposed to be turned fully left for scan&pan to function normally.

Yesterday I fed four different oscillator waves through scan&pan to try to get a hang on the red knobs. I only got some abrupt volume changes and confusion from it.

edit: I didn't realize that the faders need to be down but now the red knobs to work normally. Very nice function.

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by feelingthin » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:55 pm

Neither wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:23 am
Could someone please explain that what are the four red knobs supposed to do? I understand that the knobs are supposed to be turned fully left for scan&pan to function normally.

Yesterday I fed four different oscillator waves through scan&pan to try to get a hang on the red knobs. I only got some abrupt volume changes and confusion from it.

edit: I didn't realize that the faders need to be down but now the red knobs to work normally. Very nice function.
Are you talking about the sliders? If you mean the width and scan. Try setting each input to a different place in the stereo field(mini jacks for panning), all the mini pot gain knobs at 9 o' clock, then put the width around 10-11 o' clock, then move the scan manual to see how it works. I just installed mine today and it took 2 hours to understand how this thing works. I still don't understand the vcas. They don't respond at all to cv input.

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by Buyakasoundman » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:10 pm

I use a Scan & Pan exclusively as a quad panning vca, and it is fiddly to set up, but works just fine for that purpose. I generally start with the gain at 9:00, faders down, and scan and width between noon and 1:00, but again, some dialing in is necessary.

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Re: So how do you like your Verbos Scan&Pan?

Post by midifail » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:39 pm

yes it is very fiddly to dial in but it does sound good. a precision meter helps me with dialing in stereo-balance if needed. i use rme digicheck for this.

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