The elusive 'all black' panel themed euro systems.

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Post by retoid » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:17 am

kristian wrote:Any hope for black Erbe-Verb ? :love:
I'll add it to the list of requests :)

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Post by sempervirent » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:06 am

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Thanks, always neat to see where panels end up after I ship 'em around the world. That's a pretty sweet little system and I like the top gray, bottom black arrangement.

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Post by kristian » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:18 pm

retoid wrote:
kristian wrote:Any hope for black Erbe-Verb ? :love:
I'll add it to the list of requests :)
:yay:

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Post by ggillon » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:51 am

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ggillon wrote:Project "reface" is finally completed:
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Where did you find those stickers on your black key step?
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Post by indigogogo » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:57 pm

It's killing me that intellijel new black case is only compatible with gray 1U tiles.

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Post by gentle_attack » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:24 pm

Just wanted to let everyone ITT that retoid's b&g panels are awesome.
Purchase with confidence!


Nice designs, and far prices so far as replacement panels go. Thanks again brotha.
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Post by retoid » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:18 am

@gentle_attack Thank you very much for the compliments! I really appreciate it and it makes me very happy that you are enjoying the panels.

In the last batch of panels, I put in Filter 8 for a trial not knowing if the panel would work or not, as the original panel has milling on the backside. It ended up fitting pretty good.

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That was the good news, the bad news is that I'm not sure I'll be able to sell the Mixup replacement panel since the original is thinner than 2mm and the threads on the top two pots barely show thru the holes, leaving almost nothing for the nuts to grab onto. Will do some testing to see if it holds with some typically handling and usage.

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Post by DSC » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:06 pm

I got a chance to rework the original MetalPhoto panel that ships with the e370. Blasted it and then black matte powdercoated it and then made the proper white silkscreen printed it and it now matches my system. Changed out for black standard Davies knobs too. I just don't like the MetalPhoto 'gloss black' look. Anyone else?

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Post by DSC » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:51 am

So if any of you are looking to make your grey panels black here is a little animated gif I made of my process.
1. Scan the panel so you can make new artwork.
2. Blast off the original surface.
3. Powdercoat in matte black.
4. Heat cure 400 degrees for 10 minutes
5. Shoot and setup screen.
6. Print with two part epoxy ink.
7. Heat cure after air dry. 325 degrees for 25 minutes.
8. Reassemble and enjoy!

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Post by damase » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:14 pm

DSC wrote:So if any of you are looking to make your grey panels black here is a little animated gif I made of my process.
1. Scan the panel so you can make new artwork.
2. Blast off the original surface.
3. Powdercoat in matte black.
4. Heat cure 400 degrees for 10 minutes
5. Shoot and setup screen.
6. Print with two part epoxy ink.
7. Heat cure after air dry. 325 degrees for 25 minutes.
8. Reassemble and enjoy!

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thank you very much. nice clear instructions
do you know, does this achieve the style of coating you find on Verbos modules? ive found myself not liking the metalphoto panels as much as well

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Post by DSC » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:22 pm

damase wrote:
thank you very much. nice clear instructions
do you know, does this achieve the style of coating you find on Verbos modules? ive found myself not liking the metalphoto panels as much as well
Yes, Verbos, Moog, Schippmann, Cwejman and a few others still prefer high quality, and highly durable finishes.

Oh, and add Space Case to that list too!!!
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Post by retoid » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:31 pm

@DSC, very nice job on that panel!
Couple questions for ya. Did you have any issues with the powder caking up in certain areas or laying on too thick? How about the outer edges, did you have to sand those down at all? Also wondering if you're using prismatic powders matte black? I've got some of their matte black on hand, it looks nice, however it seems to leave an ever so slight orange peal affect and the edges get a tad thick. It could very well be my novice technique, but definitely curious to hear how you handle that.

Thank you

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Post by DSC » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:54 pm

I can give you information based on my experience.

First is humidity control. I am located here in Denver so it is pretty dry here, but you can have caking issues if you are in a very moist climate. To try and eliminate caking issues you can keep your chamber to half full and constantly shake the 'gun' in between hits. The next thing would be to pull the trigger 'off part' and then when the gun has started then draw it over your part.

The cheaper guns have a tendency to 'puff out' when you first start them. If you have too much on the corners then you might check your ground connection to your part. Always use metal hangers and try to have the weight of the part keep a nice solid ground connection. Never lay a part on aluminum foil as that is a very poor ground connection.

Use a lot of light and if you don't like it after you coat it, then blow it off with air and start over. (Obviously before baking) That is one nice thing to be able to do, as you can't do that with paint and I have been painting for over twenty years now. :tu: Good luck and keep practicing!

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Post by retoid » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:01 pm

@DSC Awesome, I appreciate the tips and information, thank you very much!

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Post by muddy ranks » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:43 pm

indigogogo wrote:It's killing me that intellijel new black case is only compatible with gray 1U tiles.
SAME! :bang:

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Post by Henfield » Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:08 pm

Okay, I just switched up my system, selling most of my non-black modules, and changing from a 12U 104 hp Halliburton aluminum case to another DIY case that is deeper, and is 14U 84 hp.

I still need to find black panels for some of the Doepfer modules, and I need to change out some silver panel tiles for some black ones.

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For Sale/Trade: 14U 84 hp Euro case . Willing to trade towards MU Modules, Moogerfooger pedals, Minifooger pedals, and other interesting effects boxes that work well with modular, try me!

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Post by chit » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:21 pm

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Ready for her first patch. Still haven't bought any 1U modules since nearly everything else I have is also black.

@retoid Had to skip a nut one of the pots on the Mixup. Luckily it wasn't the top one and doesn't feel like it'd be an issue at all.

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Post by muddy ranks » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:35 am

chit wrote:ImageReady for her first patch. Still haven't bought any 1U modules since nearly everything else I have is also black.
Lookin' good! Black panels for the 1U row would definitely complete the look nicely! I'd love to do the same for my system.

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Post by retoid » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:44 pm

@Chit Thanks for letting me know, I decided to put them up for sale as they do seem to hold enough to be useable. A few of us were able to secure all 3 nuts for the potentiometers but I can imagine there are slight differences throughout. Also thank you for sharing the picture, looking good!

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Post by retoid » Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:01 pm

The new SSF Stereo Dipole black and gold panel is looking fantastic!

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/steady-st ... k-and-gold

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Post by matmur » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:11 am

ggillon wrote:Project "reface" is finally completed:
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That looks like a dream system! Do you have any recordings uploaded somewhere?

Also, what are those stands?

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Post by ggillon » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:33 am

matmur wrote:
ggillon wrote:Project "reface" is finally completed:
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That looks like a dream system! Do you have any recordings uploaded somewhere?

Also, what are those stands?
Thank you! Yes sure. I have a soundcloud where I share my experiences with this system.

https://soundcloud.com/gautier-gillon

Still learning to tame it, it's been a bit more than a year I dipped my toes in the modular ocean but so far it's great fun.


The stands are just cheap foldable guitar stands. They work well for this case size.

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Post by ggillon » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:43 pm

matmur wrote: Do you have any recordings uploaded somewhere?
Here I just made a new one :wink:

http://soundcloud.com/gautier-gillon/bells

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Post by OHEXOH » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:46 pm

Question - what is the finish on the XAOC black panels? Are they PCB board / matt style like Make Noise or are they more shiny metal like 4MS? I have a Shared System and want to try and keep the finish in line with Make Noise if possible.

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Post by MARK27 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:03 pm

The XAOC black panels are very high quality aluminum. The satin black finish looks more like some sort of powder coat as opposed to anodized, but that is just a guess.

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