FIVE12 Eurorack Vector Sequencer Teaser

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Re: FIVE12 Eurorack Vector Sequencer Teaser

Post by droningspaghettimonster » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:48 am

seems like the lunchpad integration and program change outputs are not too far away according to discussions in the fb group. 8-)

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Post by resynthesize » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:56 am

modulator_esp wrote:
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I've just bought one purely for standalone MIDI sequencing and wondered if anyone could recommend a skiff and suitable PSU
60HP moog case is a perfect fit for a 4hp psu + vector + expander
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Re: FIVE12 Eurorack Vector Sequencer Teaser

Post by MikeLeeBirds » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:51 pm

resynthesize wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:56 am
modulator_esp wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:32 pm
I've just bought one purely for standalone MIDI sequencing and wondered if anyone could recommend a skiff and suitable PSU
60HP moog case is a perfect fit for a 4hp psu + vector + expander

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But you‘re left with two empty hp!! OMG!
8-)

If someone wants to use Vector purely for Midi sequencing I‘d recommend not buying the expander.
Then a 42 hp case is ideal and makes for a much more compact footprint.

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Re: FIVE12 Eurorack Vector Sequencer Teaser

Post by modulator_esp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:15 pm

resynthesize wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:56 am
modulator_esp wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:32 pm
I've just bought one purely for standalone MIDI sequencing and wondered if anyone could recommend a skiff and suitable PSU
60HP moog case is a perfect fit for a 4hp psu + vector + expander

IMG_5143.jpg
I thought about the moog case, but am only using it with MIDI, then saw a friend has his in a pico rack, which is 42hp and perfect for me, so that's what it is now in :)
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Post by modulator_esp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:11 pm

I’m going to start using it with my ambika 🙂
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Re: FIVE12 Eurorack Vector Sequencer Teaser

Post by peachesandbacon » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:47 pm

Hey all, does anyone know if this does pulse per step, like a metropolis does?

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Post by Jumbuktu » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:44 pm

peachesandbacon wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:47 pm
Hey all, does anyone know if this does pulse per step, like a metropolis does?
Do you mean multiple triggers per step (ratcheting)? If so, yes.

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Post by joskery » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:58 am

Jumbuktu wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:44 pm
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Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:47 pm
Hey all, does anyone know if this does pulse per step, like a metropolis does?
Do you mean multiple triggers per step (ratcheting)? If so, yes.
Or do you mean that you can stay at one step, repeating it multiple times before moving to the next one? If so, yes.

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Post by Zymos » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:27 am

On Metropolis, “pulse count” is step length. What it does during that step (hold a gate, repeat, play one trigger then wait until next step) is a separate control.

Vector is similar. Step length is one parameter, separate from that, steps can also be repeated.

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Re: FIVE12 Eurorack Vector Sequencer Teaser

Post by nexgen23 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:44 pm

mdoudoroff wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:52 am
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Can someone compare the Vector to the Eloquencer please?
Vector is a pitch and gate sequencer with a trigger/gate sequencer tacked on.
Eloquencer is a trigger/gate sequencer with pitch sequencing tacked on.

(That’s only partly a joke.)

Eloquencer offers an quasi-x0x-style workflow. It has eight tracks, but they’re all tightly ganged together in 16 step blocks. Vector has two pitch/gate/mod tracks expandable to six, but they’re not ganged together, individual steps can be variable length, and subsequences are available to further vary the behavior and “length” of a track. Vector is more in a family with USTA and Cirklon. Eloquencer is more in a family with stuff like the Audio Damage Sequencer 1, if you squint.

You gotta watch the tutorial videos (over and over) and try to grok the workflows. One is likely to appeal to you more than the other.

Oof, I bought an Eloquencer and used it for a couple weeks now, but I am just not jelling with it. Guess I'll have to sell it and get a Vector as it appears to be more of what I am wanting in a sequencer.

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Re: FIVE12 Eurorack Vector Sequencer Teaser

Post by mdoudoroff » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:42 pm

nexgen23 wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:44 pm
Oof, I bought an Eloquencer and used it for a couple weeks now, but I am just not jelling with it. Guess I'll have to sell it and get a Vector as it appears to be more of what I am wanting in a sequencer.
Yeah, that was my experience. But neither Vector nor USTA existed at the time I was giving up on Eloquencer, so I’m using a Koma Komplex, which is kind of an analog-style implementation of Numerology (whereas Vector is a Cirklon-esque implementation of Numerology).

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Re: FIVE12 Eurorack Vector Sequencer Teaser

Post by Daisuk » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:31 pm

Here's Vector sequencing a Blofeld, the modular and a Synplant VST, as well as all the drums (all modular).



This sequencer is just blowing me away. Just by using the sub sequencer, chance operations and skipping between various presets, you can create so much ebb and flow and natural variation. It's a stroke of genius!

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Re: FIVE12 Eurorack Vector Sequencer Teaser

Post by Endosine » Sun May 03, 2020 2:00 am

Daisuk wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:31 pm
Here's Vector sequencing a Blofeld, the modular and a Synplant VST, as well as all the drums (all modular).
Nice track! Definitely has a Mouse on Mars / Oval vibe to it! I'm on the hunt for a Vector, I'm pretty sure it's the next addition to my system. Have you (or anyone else) noticed any issues with latency / note timing when using MIDI on the Vector?

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Post by chaosick » Sun May 03, 2020 2:00 am

Endosine wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 2:00 am
Daisuk wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:31 pm
Here's Vector sequencing a Blofeld, the modular and a Synplant VST, as well as all the drums (all modular).
Nice track! Definitely has a Mouse on Mars / Oval vibe to it! I'm on the hunt for a Vector, I'm pretty sure it's the next addition to my system. Have you (or anyone else) noticed any issues with latency / note timing when using MIDI on the Vector?
Nope, rock tight.

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Post by Daisuk » Sun May 03, 2020 5:10 am

Endosine wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 2:00 am
Daisuk wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:31 pm
Here's Vector sequencing a Blofeld, the modular and a Synplant VST, as well as all the drums (all modular).
Nice track! Definitely has a Mouse on Mars / Oval vibe to it! I'm on the hunt for a Vector, I'm pretty sure it's the next addition to my system. Have you (or anyone else) noticed any issues with latency / note timing when using MIDI on the Vector?
Thanks! :) I haven't noticed any latency at all, but haven't done any clinical testing of it, so to speak. I've used it to sequence midi for quite some time now though, so would say it does a very good job of it. It's an excellent excellent sequencer. :)

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Post by synonymist » Sun May 03, 2020 12:58 pm

Vector Sequencer continues to be the most powerful sequencer that I happen to own. And it makes its power and complexity much easier for me to use than my other sequencers do theirs. Each of them is a unique and beautiful snowflake, but just sayin'. :)

After its usability and sheer power, most impressive to me about Vector Sequencer is how expressive it can be. Here are two new pieces in which Vector/expander was the only sequencer. Based on the same patch, their meter is 11/8 (or 11/4). They happen to feature only Noise Engineering modules as primary sound sources (which fact is not entirely obvious, I hope). Session notes are at each track's webpage:




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Post by zengomi » Sun May 03, 2020 2:54 pm

synonymist wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 12:58 pm
Vector Sequencer continues to be the most powerful sequencer that I happen to own. And it makes its power and complexity much easier for me to use than my other sequencers do theirs. Each of them is a unique and beautiful snowflake, but just sayin'. :)

After its usability and sheer power, most impressive to me about Vector Sequencer is how expressive it can be. Here are two new pieces in which Vector/expander was the only sequencer. Based on the same patch, their meter is 11/8 (or 11/4). They happen to feature only Noise Engineering modules as primary sound sources (which fact is not entirely obvious, I hope). Session notes are at each track's webpage:



Love that Noise Engineering sound!

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Post by synonymist » Sun May 03, 2020 5:01 pm

zengomi wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 2:54 pm
synonymist wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 12:58 pm
...They happen to feature only Noise Engineering modules as primary sound sources (which fact is not entirely obvious, I hope).
Love that Noise Engineering sound!
So it was pretty obvious after all. :)

At least it's good! ;)

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Post by zengomi » Sun May 03, 2020 6:37 pm

synonymist wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 5:01 pm
zengomi wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 2:54 pm
synonymist wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 12:58 pm
...They happen to feature only Noise Engineering modules as primary sound sources (which fact is not entirely obvious, I hope).
Love that Noise Engineering sound!
So it was pretty obvious after all. :)

At least it's good! ;)
You spilled the beans :lol:

But then I had spent a fair amount of time today checking out NE modules.

Which ones did you use/do you have?

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Post by synonymist » Sun May 03, 2020 6:57 pm

zengomi wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 6:37 pm
synonymist wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 5:01 pm
zengomi wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 2:54 pm
Love that Noise Engineering sound!
So it was pretty obvious after all. :)

At least it's good! ;)
You spilled the beans :lol:

But then I had spent a fair amount of time today checking out NE modules.

Which ones did you use/do you have?
Ha! So I did. :) Still, I do think the sonic palette there is not as blatantly NE as it could have been.

Those tracks featured BI, CI, and LIP. I also have AI and The Mullet.

Relevant to Vector Sequencer with Jack Expander is its suitability to controlling the NE oscillators with their many parameters, either directly or (with gates or triggers) indirectly.

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Post by JES » Sun May 10, 2020 10:10 am

I'm wondering if anyone has figured out a way to get the Vector to spit out polyrhythms by manipulating rate. It's amazing for polymeters already (I can module sequence length all day and be happy), and I just noticed the phase and crossfade options now available in 1.4 and will try them out today.
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Post by yrn1 » Sun May 10, 2020 11:25 am

I must have missed something: phase? Crossfade? Where do I find those? Intriguing!

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Post by JES » Sun May 10, 2020 12:54 pm

Page 4 of the v1.4 manual: http://45.56.118.96/VectorUserGuideV1.4.pdf

EDIT: ran it through its paces with two kick drum sounds so I could hear the onsets clearly. It is exactly as described and provides instant Reich. The crossfade ones are simply more dramatic. With some well-placed resets and modulation of rates, it should be amazing for phased melodies or grooves.

Now, I have to figure out how to set this up for polyrhythms.... If anyone's achieved that, please chime in!
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