Shakmat Time Wizard - The ULTIMATE clock divider/multiplier?

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Post by Midiot » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:03 am

Easy question to owners/users of the Time Wizard....

1) How easily does this module do simple 4/4 rhythm standards ?

I'm wondering if this can be used as a "basic" 4/4 type drum sequencer, AND for more complex rhythms.
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Post by MrTurboparrot » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:48 am

Midiot wrote:Easy question to owners/users of the Time Wizard....

1) How easily does this module do simple 4/4 rhythm standards ?

I'm wondering if this can be used as a "basic" 4/4 type drum sequencer, AND for more complex rhythms.
absolutely! Setup your bass and snare on A1 and A2. Send a fairly fast clock, and can have 1/1 ration on A3 with 16ths... hi hats etc.

You can also use the built in logic on the B channel to add some variety.
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Post by soundslikejoe » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:22 am

"Basic rhythms" = sure... if you're talking about techno beats with a small bit of spice, no problem.

If you're talking about really programming "feel" and complex beat patterns.... that's not really what this module is about. It's a clock multiplier/divider with some tricks.... but it's not a Trigger Riot or Varigate.
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Post by guestt » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:21 am

Agree with soundslikejoe, but there are plenty of ways to add feel and complexity elsewhere, I like using it with the ER-301, the delay units in there allow for the possibility of feel and fine resolution control of trigger repeats - works a treat!

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Post by Bishop Dust » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:08 pm

Bishop Dust wrote:Here's a video demo / manual !

[video][/video]
The last part of the video is a demo of the module as a drum sequencer :guinness:

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:17 pm

It really depends on which part you set up for what sound, and how you have the module set up. The on-board Reset is super useful for this purpose. I've used this for far more than 4/4 rythms. Add a switch to the game, or a skipper module, and you've got yourself some nice grooves.

I also used a funky clock coming from Pamela which makes a huge difference. To be honest, I've never used the Time Wizard as a standard clock divider, it's too good to be used for just that! Although, coming to think of it ... maybe it would make an excellent module to use with multiple sequencers :hmm:
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Post by Bishop Dust » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:01 pm

Small tip to try "a la J Dilla drumming style"

use the B4 to create /5 /7 divisions the idea is to make quintuplet - 7et (don t know the name for that) so consider B4 is now your "quarter note". Use the clock switch to link B4 to B5 and B6 , B5 and B6 count now your quarter note and can divide to the bar / 2 bars etc

Use your original clock plus B4 to clock sequencers and B5 / B6 to reset !

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Post by guestt » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:08 pm

Just to say that I really appreciate these kinds of posts Bishop Dust, Paranormal Patroler MrTurboparrot

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Post by soundslikejoe » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:44 pm

Bishop Dust wrote:Small tip to try "a la J Dilla drumming style"

use the B4 to create /5 /7 divisions the idea is to make quintuplet - 7et (don t know the name for that) so consider B4 is now your "quarter note". Use the clock switch to link B4 to B5 and B6 , B5 and B6 count now your quarter note and can divide to the bar / 2 bars etc

Use your original clock plus B4 to clock sequencers and B5 / B6 to reset !
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Post by Midiot » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:40 pm

I am using the TW and I like it.... still experimenting.

One thing I don't like, is the extreme brightness of the LEDs. I see red dots after staring at it in a darkened room.

I think it wouldn't be too hard to swap-out the associated 6 resistors connected to each LED, with a different value.

I sent Shakmat an email, and I'll reply here with their recommendations.
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Post by damase » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:58 pm

Midiot wrote:I am using the TW and I like it.... still experimenting.

One thing I don't like, is the extreme brightness of the LEDs. I see red dots after staring at it in a darkened room.

I think it wouldn't be too hard to swap-out the associated 6 resistors connected to each LED, with a different value.

I sent Shakmat an email, and I'll reply here with their recommendations.
I have to agree, the LEDs are entirely too bright... but I have an easy diy solution for you also...

The LEDs are recessed, so i just cut tiny squares of board tape (white tape that audio engineers use to label a soundboard) and laid the squares over the LEDs.
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The LED light still shines through the tape plenty enough to use, but it blurs it so that its not blinding. Use real board tape though, masking tape is ugly and gets really hard to remove after its set.

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Post by zoneswithoutpeople » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:04 pm

Just built this yesterday, took about 2 hours to put it together. Pretty easy build, well-documented. Wayy simpler to build than the PEG I put together last week.

Had a jam with it clocking Rings, Stillson Hammer and pinging e440, got some very cool results, unusual rhythms I definitely have not heard before. Having the multiplication and division in one module is very useful.

I DO wish it had a rotate CV input, as that would just make it perfect for more varying rhythms. The patterns don't really change much on their own, at least with a steady clock input. I don't have any logic modules or sequential switches yet, but I'm thinking of building the RYO Paths (4:4 Seq Switch) which seems like it would make a good companion for this.

Anyone use the Paths with the Time Wizard?

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Post by Midiot » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:46 am

damase wrote: I have to agree, the LEDs are entirely too bright... but I have an easy diy solution for you also...

The LEDs are recessed, so i just cut tiny squares of board tape (white tape that audio engineers use to label a soundboard) and laid the squares over the LEDs.
Thx. I have that tape, but never tried that solution.

I have tried the white nail polish trick on other modules...."remove the face-plate, dab a thin coat of the white lacquer nail polish on each LED, let dry, replace the face-plate."
This worked well with other modules I have (QPLFO).

...other options are replace (6) through-hole resistors (as I wondered),
...or even replacing the LEDs with "frosted" types. (not the 'clear' types used in the production module).
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Post by Bishop Dust » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:54 am

Midiot wrote:I am using the TW and I like it.... still experimenting.

One thing I don't like, is the extreme brightness of the LEDs. I see red dots after staring at it in a darkened room.

I think it wouldn't be too hard to swap-out the associated 6 resistors connected to each LED, with a different value.

I sent Shakmat an email, and I'll reply here with their recommendations.
If you want to dim the led, you can change the resistors standing up next to the leds , these are 6k8 so go for 10k

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Post by Midiot » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:24 pm

Thanks.
You answered here, and responded to my email. +++

Question.... (from the build doc) there are "eight" 6.8k resistors but only "six" LED's
....replace them all ? or only the ones near each (six) LED's ?
(I, or most people could figure-out the associated resistors , when looking closely at the board.)

BTW... I love this module... I use it almost every session.
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Post by Keltie » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:54 pm

[quote="Paranormal Patroler]
Although, coming to think of it ... maybe it would make an excellent module to use with multiple sequencers :hmm
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thats my plan, when I can get hold of one, master clock and divider for elo, tm, transient 8s and grids :nana:

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Post by Bishop Dust » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:42 pm

Midiot wrote:Thanks.
You answered here, and responded to my email. +++

Question.... (from the build doc) there are "eight" 6.8k resistors but only "six" LED's
....replace them all ? or only the ones near each (six) LED's ?
(I, or most people could figure-out the associated resistors , when looking closely at the board.)

BTW... I love this modules... I use it almost every session.
Just the 6 ones close to the LEDs not the two ones close to the jacks

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Post by Midiot » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:03 pm

Bishop Dust wrote:
Just the 6 ones close to the LEDs not the two ones close to the jacks
I did that, not too difficult.... replaced the 6.8k with some 11.3k resistors.
It reduced the brightness a bit, but not enough for me.
I think it's the fact that these are "clear" type LEDs, not "diffused".

What finally worked was easy.... remove the faceplate and put a very small/even dab of white nail polish on the six LEDs. Let dry (1-2- hours) and replace the faceplate... super easy.
Done.
Happy.
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Post by Midiot » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:29 pm

I'm NOT getting rid of my TimeWizard, but I am wondering...

Does anyone ALSO have the Malekko "Quad Gate Delay" ?
Are they too similar to have both ?
...or different enough to not even compare ?

I realize the Malekko is only a delay (or divider), not a multiplier (increasing or multiplying the rate of a gate).
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Post by Midiot » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:53 pm

Too late, I ordered the Quad Gate Delay.
After I use it, I'll post back here.
(sorry for the slight thread derail)
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Post by ookrsia » Mon May 21, 2018 3:21 pm

Midiot wrote:Too late, I ordered the Quad Gate Delay.
After I use it, I'll post back here.
(sorry for the slight thread derail)
Please do!

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Post by Hanz » Mon May 21, 2018 4:42 pm

Are LEDs getting changed for (new) factory built modules?
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Post by kidkoexist » Mon May 21, 2018 6:34 pm

Bishop Dust wrote:Small tip to try "a la J Dilla drumming style"

use the B4 to create /5 /7 divisions the idea is to make quintuplet - 7et (don t know the name for that) so consider B4 is now your "quarter note". Use the clock switch to link B4 to B5 and B6 , B5 and B6 count now your quarter note and can divide to the bar / 2 bars etc

Use your original clock plus B4 to clock sequencers and B5 / B6 to reset !
I think you just sold a module with this post 8-)

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Post by hel1 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:40 am

I really love the module, but I don't like the green LEDs (nor do I like blue ones for that matter).
if I want to exchange them for red ones, what type do I have to choose.
sorry if this is a stupid question, but although I build DIY kit modules, my knowledge of electronics is basic at the most.

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Post by hel1 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:48 pm

well, got an answer from Shakmat: any LED that fits would do.

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