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Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by Jaypee » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:27 am

Now I have a 6U x 168HP I can see how a CV Bus would be very useful!
It's like getting some module closer from each other.

Why MN doesn't release it?
Any alternative? or can I use some 1u modules to make my own "CV Bus"?

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Post by euromorcego » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:18 am

first you need a 1u row for tiles obviously.

then, yes, you can easily make your own cv bus (plus a few other nice tiles). Note that the mults on the MN CV bus are passive, so it is pretty easy to diy.

Without the 1u row there are also people who build trunk lines to distribute signals in a larger system: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/cgs-trunk-line-multiple-

I can say that a 1u row is super useful. You can park a lot of utilities there and it really glues a system together.

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Post by Jaypee » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:59 am

Other option I've been think for a while is to put some utilities horizontal instead of vertical. Just gotta find a way to fix them.
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Post by js213 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:11 am

Another option that I thought might be useful in a large case would be the ADDAC213 and Expander. Good way to get CV/Audio from one side to the other without having to pass cables over the modules.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/addac-sys ... c213a-left

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/addac-system-addac213b

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Post by chysn » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:27 pm

Make Noise CV Bus Alternative? Super long cables, I guess.
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Post by mateo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:03 pm

Birdkids were working on this, but I don't know if anything came of it: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/birdkids- ... -bus-104hp

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Post by tross » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:45 am

Don't know why they are not producing them anymore, but mine from shared system now works with the constant bugs. :confused:

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Post by euromorcego » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:46 am

Jaypee wrote:Other option I've been think for a while is to put some utilities horizontal instead of vertical. Just gotta find a way to fix them.
the way to fix them is a 1u row ;)

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by Kroggel » Tue May 19, 2020 2:43 am

Any news in this regard?

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Post by mnchrme » Tue May 19, 2020 5:36 am

Last time I contacted MN about this matter - in my case purchasing one CV bus from them directly I was redirected to buying it from someone else on the second hand market as they need these for their cases. It’s a shame, really.

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by Kattefjaes » Tue May 19, 2020 5:45 am

On possibility, if an inelegant one, is to use a chain of four 4HP rack plumbers. Not sure if you can can cascade them with the ethernet cable in the case (they have a connector on the back), but if you could, possibly worth a look. 8 connections available in four different places in the rack, maybe in the corners?

It has been ages since I had hands on one, so I might be mis-remembering.

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Post by mnchrme » Wed May 20, 2020 5:38 pm

Thanks. Worth looking into. Corners make sense although you want this in the center of your system ideally. I was thinking about making this happen somehow from a standalone product standpoint and just enjoy some good sales from those the other day. I can imagine if done right the demand could be great. :hmm: :guinness:

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by blaythe.steuer » Wed May 20, 2020 6:24 pm

I feel like it would be possible to take some pulp logic 1U mults and pipe them together somehow with other modules in between. That would be such a great solution.

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by KSS » Thu May 21, 2020 9:06 am

How important are the extra features beyond passive distributed mults?
Like the LEDs, 1/4" input (receive) and the stereo send of the MN version?
What do the MN CV-Bus sell for new and used?

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by Kroggel » Thu May 21, 2020 9:54 am

the LEDs are cruical I think...the Ins and Outs are very nice. You can´t buy the BUS without the case.

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by diller » Thu May 21, 2020 10:33 am

It's a MONO input with gain, 4 channel mult and a stereo modular to line level converter with an attenuator. I have one and really don't see what the big deal is with people wanting them so bad. Maybe it's because you have to pay a ton of money for a shared system or buy the rinky metal cv bus case to get one and be in the exclusive club? There are way better options for signal input and stereo signal conversion to line level.

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Post by pulplogic » Thu May 21, 2020 10:49 am

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I have a distributed mult tile (DMULT). It has two channels and is passive with two connectors on the back so expandable. If anyone is interested I’ll get it listed in the next few days.
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Post by Kroggel » Thu May 21, 2020 12:50 pm

you have mults then, but you don´t have them evenly spread across the width of the case. And this is the big deal for people I think. Finding passive multiples isn´t that big of a problem, but on the cv bus you can send signals from one end of the case to the other end without so much cable hassle.

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by mnchrme » Thu May 21, 2020 1:20 pm

It has nothing to do with "exclusive club" besides the fact is has very nice aesthetic touch to it and fairly great use which translates into any patch you are currently doing. I find LED crucial as they tell you what's going on in your system CV wise (if you know your modules well) without even hearing it and coupled with some of the extra features it packs it's really nice. Granted if you want one you either buy the 7U case (which to my liking has limited number of bus ports for modules and a high price) or get lucky second hand (which I wasn't for almost 6 months now). What are some of the "better" options? If CV bus was buffered then it would be even more useful for signal distribution but I am no expert in this regard besides building DIY kits. :hmm:

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by blaythe.steuer » Thu May 21, 2020 2:51 pm

the pulplogic d mult is absolutely perfect. no bipolar LEDs but transmitting signals horizontally is the main draw! plus then you aren’t stuck with the make noise CV bus i/o.

how much HP could you comfortably space out the d mults @pulplogic? looks like i’m gonna need a bunch of those for the rack i am building! it needed a CV bus but now it doesn’t!:)

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by pulplogic » Thu May 21, 2020 3:14 pm

blaythe.steuer wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:51 pm
how much HP could you comfortably space out the d mults @pulplogic? looks like i’m gonna need a bunch of those for the rack i am building! it needed a CV bus but now it doesn’t!:)
The cables are 24" so they could stretch across 104HP.

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by Kroggel » Thu May 21, 2020 3:33 pm

any idea on pricing yet?

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Post by pulplogic » Thu May 21, 2020 3:52 pm

Kroggel wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 3:33 pm
any idea on pricing yet?
I think $30 for a 2 Tile set and $20 for an add-on Tile plus cable.

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by Foghorn » Thu May 21, 2020 3:55 pm

If you want to stay in 3U, Ladik make a 4 hp module that could be used as distribution board buss access if you had several around a rack.
Ladik P-310 buss and power connection
I love the fact that it has BNC connections too.
And it sends the power including the 5 volt buss to BNCs.
Like it was meant to have a scope on your PSU.
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But those pulp logic tiles look very useful.
I have a 140 hp rack with the Pulp logic tile row.
It is in the bottom of the EP-420 rack in this picture.

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Re: Make Noise CV Bus Alternative?

Post by blaythe.steuer » Thu May 21, 2020 5:30 pm

pulplogic wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 3:14 pm
blaythe.steuer wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:51 pm
how much HP could you comfortably space out the d mults @pulplogic? looks like i’m gonna need a bunch of those for the rack i am building! it needed a CV bus but now it doesn’t!:)
The cables are 24" so they could stretch across 104HP.
wonderful. i am currently building a 168hp rack with two standard 1U rows. i’ll be getting several of these (and others from you) in the coming weeks! what great timing :)

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