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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by Treibstoff » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:26 pm

Theses changes will transform the proks in killer machines! Cant wait for the beta test 😬

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by morbank » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:24 pm

Anyone know if it is possible to edit the parameters by entering specific amounts? For example, I can only select 30.00, 54.85, 79.70...etc. using the cursor for the "Sine A Base Freq" but I see presets with "49.71". Is there a way to type in exact amounts or am I limited to the screen resolution since the Prok editor window isn't resizable?

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by Thonk Support » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:13 am

morbank wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:24 pm
Anyone know if it is possible to edit the parameters by entering specific amounts? For example, I can only select 30.00, 54.85, 79.70...etc. using the cursor for the "Sine A Base Freq" but I see presets with "49.71". Is there a way to type in exact amounts or am I limited to the screen resolution since the Prok editor window isn't resizable?
In the new version coming soon we have "Hold down shift to fine adjust a parameter. Hold down ctrl + shift for even more fine control."
This was added specifically as there are better note/frequency input changes coming too.
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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by morbank » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:43 pm

Perfect, thanks for the update!

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by Johnny » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:08 am

no update...still waiting

WHEN?!?!

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by Thonk Support » Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:47 am

Johnny wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:08 am
no update...still waiting

WHEN?!?!
Hey Johnny, this was our update from 4 days ago - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=210807&start=198
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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by bemushroomed » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:58 am

Johnny wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:08 am
WHEN?!?!
Hey Johnny, this was our update from 4 days ago - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=210807&start=198
you better lock yer doors because somehow i dont think that's the reply he wanted..

i know the kind... calls themselves johnny.. has few posts because all work no play and talks in big letters..

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by Johnny » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:01 pm

bemushroomed wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:58 am

you better lock yer doors because somehow i dont think that's the reply he wanted..

i know the kind... calls themselves johnny.. has few posts because all work no play and talks in big letters..
OK, want to open up more about your home life?
Monobass wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:47 am
Hey Johnny, this was our update from 4 days ago - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=210807&start=198
thanks, sorry I didn't realize it was just 4 days ago...meanwhile, I stick with old editor.

Do you need beta testers?

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by bemushroomed » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:19 pm

aww c'mon, can't take a little joke?
i'm eagerly awaiting it as well.. and yes they need beta testers, probably why they call it a public beta test :tu:

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by YTNUKLR » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:45 pm

I have the Prok drums and like them.
I just got more into them and read about the expansion-is there any more info about this or it just hasn't come out yet?

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by bemushroomed » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:21 pm

YTNUKLR wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:45 pm
I have the Prok drums and like them.
I just got more into them and read about the expansion-is there any more info about this or it just hasn't come out yet?
Expansion? If you mean the firmware update no one knows.

Last summer it was "a month or two away" according to one of the devs.
In early January this year it was "going live tomorrow"

Still nothing. But i'm hopeful ;)

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by Bartelby » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:40 pm

There’s a 6 pin connector, for an expander module, on the pcb.

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by BartBral » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:46 pm

I just got more into them and read about the expansion-is there any more info about this or it just hasn't come out yet?
No, it didn't come out yet...
The 6 Pin header for expansion "(more news in 2019)" is connected to 4 unused pins on the Teensy. So a new firmware could (in theory) use these pins for more CV-inputs or gates/triggers. But thats all I know...

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by Johnny » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:23 am

BartBral wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:46 pm
I just got more into them and read about the expansion-is there any more info about this or it just hasn't come out yet?
No, it didn't come out yet...
The 6 Pin header for expansion "(more news in 2019)" is connected to 4 unused pins on the Teensy. So a new firmware could (in theory) use these pins for more CV-inputs or gates/triggers. But thats all I know...
I remember to read somewhere that you can wire up an extra potentiometer via expander pins..

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by boombipbass » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:11 pm

Wow great to see the new software, I just finally got the succes of having to work with the editor somehow it only worked via mac and not my windows but darn , this is some hardcore synthese to study. I think that I will have to get my hopes up for nice soundbanks being available soon by lovely wizards.

I was wondering if anyone knows how I could simulate something close to a 909 OH and 909 CH on the HH Prok.
I've been dragging some faders but I get a lot of 808 like sounds and I already got the Tanzbar so it would be great to
add up some 909 bisniss with these units instead of buying a new TipTop One or using the Tiptop HATS.

Does anyone has some clue/leads?

Thanks!

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by Gringo Starr » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:20 pm

There’s a guy on Reverb.com “James Gear Outlet” that builds these modules. Does anyone have any experience with this builder or can you recommend any?

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by Bartelby » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:36 am

boombipbass wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:11 pm
Wow great to see the new software, I just finally got the succes of having to work with the editor somehow it only worked via mac and not my windows but darn , this is some hardcore synthese to study. I think that I will have to get my hopes up for nice soundbanks being available soon by lovely wizards.
In what way can't you get it to work in Windows?
Have you reported it back to Pr0k?

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by arechfer » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:32 am

Is there any solution with noise in the modules??
I’ve tried the settings in the editor with no luck
Thanks in advance (I’ve BD, SN & HH...and all have strange sound while listening alone)

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by suckerformimi » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:40 pm

What exactly is the issue?

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by BartBral » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:15 pm

Is there any solution with noise in the modules??
If you bought the parts yourself:
Check REG1117!!! It must be a 5v version? And NOT a 3.3v version.

I had loads of horrible digital noise/high pitched whining sound and PWM LED bleed thru in the audio outs.
I had bought the wrong REG1117... Now I have put in "LM 1117 MP5,0". And I replaced the 1K5 resistors with 2K7. (resistors: R11, R12, R13, R14, R15) The LEDs are a lot dimmer now, but the PWM bleed thru hum is reduced a lot when turning the pots.

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It was still whining a bit too much for my taste, so:

My solutions for PROK SNARE module:
I placed a 150pF capacitor parallel to Resistor R7.
(soldered a 150pF capacitor to the back of the PCB, using the solder pads of R7)
I placed a 560pF capacitor parallel to C1.
(so I just soldered a 560pF capacitor to the back of the PCB, using the same solder pads as C1)

Experiment with the value of these capacitors. The 560pF might be a bit too high for your taste, the higher the capacitor value the lower the cutoff frequency.


My solutions for PROK HIHAT module:
I placed a 220pF capacitor parallel to Resistor R7.
(soldered a 220pF capacitor to the back of the PCB, using the solder pads of R7)
I replaced C1 (this was 150pF) with a 220pF capacitor.

Again, experiment with the value of these capacitors. The higher the capacitor value the lower the cutoff frequency.


My solutions for PROK CLAP module:
Haven't written down the values, and I put it in my rack... so experiment...


My solutions for PROK KICK module:
Still have to make that one so I can't comment on that.... yet.

Hope this helps some people out!
p.s... First check if the REG1117 is the problem. It might be that putting in another one solves the whole PWM-bleed problem without the need of changing the LED-resistors.

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by arechfer » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:12 am

i've all full kit from Thonk
Thanks..will try

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by LDT » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:28 pm

I am very tempted to get a set of these, but I hear a few people having problems with noise. I would love to hear more people chime in in here, - is this a general issue? And how bad is it?

Thanks

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by Treibstoff » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:27 pm

If you hear one module isolated you may hear a little noise. In the mix its no problem at all. For me it never was a real problem

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by X15 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:59 pm

Monobass wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:20 am
Drowning over here. Soon.
The beta being ready in the middle of the Thonk Xmas, New Year, January Sale apocalypse has been a bit hard to handle to say the least.
We could really do with 30 hour days!
Still no time to release the beta? Been a couple of months now so i thought i'd ask.

I really like my Prok snare, would be fun to test the beta and try the bass drum type. As for noise, i can't say its too bad on my unit? Yes, if i turn up the volume, like a lot, then yes there's some noise. I bet that's the case with lots of modules though. Probably not an issue. If you do want a super hi-end module this is not it, it's 12 bit.

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Re: Prok Drum modules

Post by BartBral » Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:27 pm

After the addition of a few capacitors (described above), they are almost completely silent when not playing drum-sounds. And I love all four of the units now.

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