Joranalogue GENERATE 3 - Through-Zero Multiphonic Signal Generator

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Post by cackland » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:42 pm

Lovely. Thanks for the update Joran.

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Post by He_lium » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:49 pm

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Post by matttech » Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:11 pm

joranalogue wrote:Although there's been a slight delay in production, Generate 3 is now wel underway and pre-orders are opening at dealers as we speak! Reserve yours now and you can expect to have it in your hands in about 2 weeks: https://joranalogue.com/dealers
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Post by joranalogue » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:54 am

If you'd like to read up on how Generate 3 does what it does, take a look at the user manual here: https://joranalogue.com/generate-3/manual

http://soundcloud.com/joranalogue/gener ... -arpeggios
More demo recordings have been added to the SoundCloud page as well! https://soundcloud.com/joranalogue/sets/generate-3
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Post by joranalogue » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:14 am

Join modular synthesist Nordlys for a 20-minute exploration of Generate 3's sonic capabilities. Sound only, no talking, no effects (except for a touch of reverb).

[video][/video]
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Post by Precarious » Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:32 pm

joranalogue wrote:Join modular synthesist Nordlys for a 20-minute exploration of Generate 3's sonic capabilities. Sound only, no talking, no effects (except for a touch of reverb).

[video][/video]
Fantastic! MUST HAVE! Some details that may help viewers follow along...
Starts in LFO mode (as modulator of a VCO off screen) with modulation to phase while adjusting coarse pitch and output level of the fundamental (sine), even (saw) and odd (square). Core (tri) is constant through the red cable. Changes heard when knobs are untouched are changes made to the modulated VCO.

05:02 Second section is VCO mode. Again with modulation to phase while adjusting output levels.
06:56 Exponential FM is added through the pale yellow cable.
07:30 Through Zero FM added through another pale yellow cable.
10:00 Third section starts with Exponential and Through Zero FM. Changes heard when knobs are untouched are changes made to the modulating VCO.
11:05 Bias switch engaged adding +5v to FM input changing through zero FM to standard linear FM effecting the pitch.
13:25 AC coupling to FM input engaged.
18:28 Bias switch engaged again.

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Post by joranalogue » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:08 am

The first units start shipping to dealers tomorrow! :party:

And premiering today: the Synth DiY Guy meets Generate 3!

[video][/video]
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Post by cackland » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:52 am

Very nice :woah:

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Post by joranalogue » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:47 pm

"Hands down the best oscillator I have ever worked with."—Little Modular gets up close and personal with Generate 3!

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Post by SavageMessiah » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:50 pm

If you check the chat replay on the Synth DIY Guy video, Joran kindly gives me a lesson on TZFM that might be useful to folks who are confused about how it actually works :)

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Post by bemushroomed » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:02 pm

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/joranalog ... generate-3

"2.60 (5 Votes) Average Rating"


why are people rating it and this low... some competitor?

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Post by ericD13 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:35 am

SavageMessiah wrote:If you check the chat replay on the Synth DIY Guy video, Joran kindly gives me a lesson on TZFM that might be useful to folks who are confused about how it actually works :)
I can't find the "chat replay"
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Post by joranalogue » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:54 am

bemushroomed wrote:https://www.modulargrid.net/e/joranalog ... generate-3

"2.60 (5 Votes) Average Rating"


why are people rating it and this low... some competitor?
I've had submitted modules be 1-starred within minutes. Your guess is as good as mine.
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SavageMessiah wrote:If you check the chat replay on the Synth DIY Guy video, Joran kindly gives me a lesson on TZFM that might be useful to folks who are confused about how it actually works :)
I can't find the "chat replay"
On the YouTube website, it's a button on the top right, just above 'up next':
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Post by He_lium » Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:12 am

bemushroomed wrote:https://www.modulargrid.net/e/joranalog ... generate-3

"2.60 (5 Votes) Average Rating"


why are people rating it and this low... some competitor?
The module was rated a long time before its release. Bad joke!

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Post by Dragonaut » Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:30 pm

joranalogue wrote:The first units start shipping to dealers tomorrow! :party:

And premiering today: the Synth DiY Guy meets Generate 3!

[video][/video]
At 31 minutes this video starts getting into the sounds I was hoping this thing could... generate. Very nice work, Joranalogue. Now I need another case.
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Post by parallelepiped » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:53 pm

I am considering getting the Generate 3 as my main oscillator. Does anyone have any ideas on what might pair well with it as part of a complex voice?

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Post by Dragonaut » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:58 pm

Seems like just about anything that tracks well and how options. In the video I quoted the synth guy gets some really nice results using two oscillators to modulate it so maybe think beyond pairing.
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Post by peripatitis » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:43 am

I'd like to hear more of the "cleaner" side of the module. How it would work with carefully tuned c/m ratios. The noisier side sounds great, and it is evident by the diy guy video as well, but I am not sure of the extend it is different to other thru-zero modules.

As for the ring mod on the output..ok i'd prefer pwm on the waveforms and a sub but at least it is novel :)

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Post by johannes » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:55 am

peripatitis wrote:I'd like to hear more of the "cleaner" side of the module. How it would work with carefully tuned c/m ratios.
iam also curious about cleaner fm sounds…

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Post by Pictus » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:50 pm

I would like to hear some more "bread&butter" stuff too...

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Re: Joranalogue GENERATE 3 - Through-Zero Multiphonic Signal Gen

Post by pyjamarama » Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:48 pm

very impressed with this osc. great build quality and a wide range of timbres

a question though.. if we're basically looking at blending even and odd harmonics against a fundamental tone then how is this all that different to a complex osc like verbos CO?

the wave shaped output on the CO may not have individual outs for the even and odd harmonics but provides modulation control of the blend between them along with cv over high and low freq bias and folding of course.

not discounting tzm or phase modulation but I get the sense that those aren't really the main selling points of this osc. more the ability to shape the sound by controlling the distribution of even/odd etc no?

I'm curious to hear thoughts on this and sorry in advance if it seems like a criticism. it's really not, I'm just trying to better understand what defines this module

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Re: Joranalogue GENERATE 3 - Through-Zero Multiphonic Signal Gen

Post by oldenjon » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:29 am

I think the answer to your first question is in a write in the patreon link a couple pages back: "Note that complex oscillators and waveshapers with “even/odd” controls don’t produce just even or just odd harmonics – they just throw the balance in one direction or the other by using rectification and wavefolding." So this seems like a different and simpler take on the the same concept; It's similar to what you expect from a basic VCO (sine, triangle, saw, and square-ish outputs) but is unique in that it provides the separate harmonic components as well, and does so without altering the waveforms much. It is an interesting feature but I don't think it is the main selling point. That would be simultaneous TZ-PM, TZ-FM, and TZ-AM IMO.
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Post by peripatitis » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:21 pm

How about seeing the idex range of these new fm/pm oscillators? Feedback fm, clean dines, etc
? Ringmod is fine but not exactly a priority for me on an oscillator. More like a welcome feature. Of course this is a personal opinion from someone looking to replace his omega's with something spatially more conscious 😁

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Post by danishchairs » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:34 pm

peripatitis wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:21 pm

... something spatially more conscious
Great phrasing!

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Post by joranalogue » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:37 am

Generate 3 ultimately takes a different approach from most oscillators, starting from a more fundamental level. It gives you direct control over all the basic parameters of sound: frequency, phase, amplitude and harmonic content (consisting of odd and even harmonics), rather than being designed primarily to make waveforms that look pretty on an oscilloscope. It's a great general purpose VCO of course, but I think you'll find the versatility only becomes apparent once you're willing to think outside the 'subtractive box', so to speak.

To illustrate, the SoundCloud playlist has just been expanded with a whole heap of new demos, kindly submitted by Ben Kiriaty: https://soundcloud.com/joranalogue/sets/generate-3

Here's a few favourites:




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