Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Cwejman, Livewire, TipTop Audio, Doepfer etc... Get your euro on!

Moderators: Kent, luketeaford, Joe.

Post Reply
thingue
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 34
Joined: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:54 am
Location: France
Contact:

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by thingue » Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:43 am

Thanks !

User avatar
auxpin
Common Wiggler
Posts: 90
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:33 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by auxpin » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:05 am

phinland wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:41 am
Just touching base...

...I'm very keen to keep everyone abreast of where we are, even if it's mildly annoying news.
Thanks for the update Phin
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
dual.bandcamp.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - -

User avatar
phinland
Common Wiggler
Posts: 177
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:19 am
Location: Plymouth, UK

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by phinland » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:47 pm

Thanks for the...

Stuart got bored waiting for the jacks to arrive so he spent last night coding. Turns out the new chip his hardware design uses had on-board flash memory too, and I got a very excited call from him today...

All SI Stochastics remember all their settings, on every channel, including loops after power down!!

Damn he's good. :hail:

So, sorry about the delays on the jacks (nothing we can do) but I hope this makes up for the extra wait––plus we're told the jacks are not far off either.

Stochastic Instruments Ltd. - https://stochasticinstruments.com/
Rethink Random // Create Chaos // Perform Process

dBs Music Modular Research Group - https://www.dbsmusic.co.uk/

Save the world entire: Go veganhttp://phinland.net/wp/vegan

User avatar
Naenyn
Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 519
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:37 am
Location: Arizona, USA

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by Naenyn » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:24 pm

phinland wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:47 pm
All SI Stochastics remember all their settings, on every channel, including loops after power down!!
That’s awesome! Very nice sounding little demo too, even without the memory feature. :party:
-n :ninja:

My racks on ModularGrid
Find me on Discord

User avatar
a100user
All the gear, no idea!
Posts: 4121
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:39 am
Location: Southern England

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by a100user » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:39 pm

Amazing new add on
I'm looking for nothing at this moment in time

User avatar
auxpin
Common Wiggler
Posts: 90
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:33 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by auxpin » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:28 pm

Nice touch, respect to Stuart :yay:
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
dual.bandcamp.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - -

User avatar
phinland
Common Wiggler
Posts: 177
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:19 am
Location: Plymouth, UK

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by phinland » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:02 am

Thanks for all the comments! Stuart's feeling justifiably pleased with himself!

FYI I've updated the (new SI-version) manual accordingly with the new Memory function details in Addenda on p24 here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ohj ... vAIQsckwg/
Stochastic Instruments Ltd. - https://stochasticinstruments.com/
Rethink Random // Create Chaos // Perform Process

dBs Music Modular Research Group - https://www.dbsmusic.co.uk/

Save the world entire: Go veganhttp://phinland.net/wp/vegan

User avatar
phinland
Common Wiggler
Posts: 177
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:19 am
Location: Plymouth, UK

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by phinland » Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:44 am

If anyone's wondering about the Linearity control, here's a short example of SIG doing a pretty blinding generative Terry Riley inspired solo. Linearity is essentially SIG's 'melody mode', where AI, probability theory and an ancient treatise on Species Counterpoint combine to produce more melodic and less 'jumpy' riffs, all fully variable from 'no' to 'fully' linear melody...

Last edited by phinland on Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Stochastic Instruments Ltd. - https://stochasticinstruments.com/
Rethink Random // Create Chaos // Perform Process

dBs Music Modular Research Group - https://www.dbsmusic.co.uk/

Save the world entire: Go veganhttp://phinland.net/wp/vegan

User avatar
witchonhorseback
Common Wiggler
Posts: 131
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:15 pm
Location: Upstate New York
Contact:

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by witchonhorseback » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:58 pm

!!!

naturalbornthiccums
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 6
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:14 am

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by naturalbornthiccums » Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:23 pm

badass

User avatar
Ras Thavas
Ultra Wiggler
Posts: 817
Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:18 pm
Location: Northbay, CA

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by Ras Thavas » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:03 pm

Double "!!!"

Professor 909
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:05 pm
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by Professor 909 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:31 am

Wow. This is an exciting development. I imagine that this linearity feature could facilitate a “collaborative” mindset in which you and the SIG improvise in complementary ways. :bananaguitar:

User avatar
phinland
Common Wiggler
Posts: 177
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:19 am
Location: Plymouth, UK

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by phinland » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:38 am

Professor 909 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:31 am
Wow. This is an exciting development. I imagine that this linearity feature could facilitate a “collaborative” mindset in which you and the SIG improvise in complementary ways. :bananaguitar:
Exactly right! :sb: This is the whole central concept I've always had for SIG: it's not a sequencer, it's an improvisational duetting partner that can behave like a looping sequencer if and when you need it too. However, note that this isn't a 'development': Linearity has always been a core function (the omsonic ones do it too). The only really 'new' SI feature is Memory so it can pick up the improv where it left off last time you switched off.
Stochastic Instruments Ltd. - https://stochasticinstruments.com/
Rethink Random // Create Chaos // Perform Process

dBs Music Modular Research Group - https://www.dbsmusic.co.uk/

Save the world entire: Go veganhttp://phinland.net/wp/vegan

Professor 909
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:05 pm
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by Professor 909 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:25 pm

Ah, somehow I had missed the linearity control previously. Intriguing.

User avatar
Electro Something
Common Wiggler
Posts: 226
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:47 pm
Location: San Francisco

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by Electro Something » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:08 pm

phinland wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:44 am
probability theory and an ancient treatise on Species Counterpoint
:foul: STOP

:hihi:

User avatar
phinland
Common Wiggler
Posts: 177
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:19 am
Location: Plymouth, UK

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by phinland » Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:50 am

:headbang: :headbang:
Electro Something wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:08 pm
phinland wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:44 am
probability theory and an ancient treatise on Species Counterpoint
:foul: STOP

:hihi:
:headbang: :headbang:
Stochastic Instruments Ltd. - https://stochasticinstruments.com/
Rethink Random // Create Chaos // Perform Process

dBs Music Modular Research Group - https://www.dbsmusic.co.uk/

Save the world entire: Go veganhttp://phinland.net/wp/vegan

User avatar
phinland
Common Wiggler
Posts: 177
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:19 am
Location: Plymouth, UK

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by phinland » Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:35 am

Professor 909 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:25 pm
Ah, somehow I had missed the linearity control previously. Intriguing.
Aha! Literally every control on SIG has both a 2nd and a 3rd function. White silkscreen lettering details primary control, gold details 2ry and 3ry depending on holding respectively Loop or Run while you twiddle.

Oct -2: A Ascend pitch (2ry) / TrEG Attack (3ry)
Oct -1: D Descend pitch (2ry) / TrEG Decay (3ry)
Oct 0: P Portamento pitch (2ry) / TrEG Pause (3ry)
Oct +1: R Repeat event (2ry) / TrEG Ratchet (3ry)
Oct +2: L Linearity pitch (2ry) / TrEG Legato (3ry)

Notes: -2/-1/0/+1/+2 Individual Note Octaves (2ry) / Individual Note TrEG Volume (3ry)

Durations:
1/16: Loop End (2ry) / TimeSig Bottom (3ry)
1/8: dotted 1/8 (2ry) / 5/16 (3ry)
1/4: dotted 1/4 (2ry) / 7/16 (3ry)
1/2: dotted 1/2 (2ry) / 11/16 (3ry)
1: 4 (2ry) / 13/16 (3ry)
2: 8 (2ry) / 15/16 (3ry)

Tempo: Loop Start (2ry) / TimeSig Top (3ry)

longhold Run-then-Loop: reset
Loop-then-Run: capture Loop
longhold Loop-then-Run while stopped: store to flash memory

Ch buttons: select/mute/copy
Run-thenChButton: initialise selected ch
Stochastic Instruments Ltd. - https://stochasticinstruments.com/
Rethink Random // Create Chaos // Perform Process

dBs Music Modular Research Group - https://www.dbsmusic.co.uk/

Save the world entire: Go veganhttp://phinland.net/wp/vegan

User avatar
auxpin
Common Wiggler
Posts: 90
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:33 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by auxpin » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:39 am

I know everyone (me included) is excited by Beads right now and rightly so, but I'm still itching to get my hands on the SIG. Hope my module is nearing the top of the list.*

*No reply expected if it means you've got to put down the soldering iron to reply ;)
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
dual.bandcamp.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - -

thingue
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 34
Joined: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:54 am
Location: France
Contact:

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by thingue » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:41 am

Almost every day i'm thinking "dont post anything, just wait..." 🐞

User avatar
Electro Something
Common Wiggler
Posts: 226
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:47 pm
Location: San Francisco

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by Electro Something » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:24 am

I couldn’t wait for the SIG so I picked up a Verona Melodicer and totally friggin love it. Of course my one wish is that the Melodicer would have additional gates/CV like the SIG - so I’ll definitely be getting it.

Being able to CV things in the Melodicer opens the door for some fun generative stuff. Although I wish each of the 12 notes had CV as well.

idkwtfI’mdoing
Common Wiggler
Posts: 71
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:20 pm

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by idkwtfI’mdoing » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:27 pm

Electro Something wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:24 am
I couldn’t wait for the SIG so I picked up a Verona Melodicer and totally friggin love it. Of course my one wish is that the Melodicer would have additional gates/CV like the SIG - so I’ll definitely be getting it.

Being able to CV things in the Melodicer opens the door for some fun generative stuff. Although I wish each of the 12 notes had CV as well.
What up electro something,

I’m in the same boat as you. I was gonna pick up the melodicer but I’ve read people are having problems with on the melodicer thread. I’m loving the sound of the osmonic and just curious if your having the any problems with yours. Both sound rad. Wondering if I can get any feedback from ya.

User avatar
Electro Something
Common Wiggler
Posts: 226
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:47 pm
Location: San Francisco

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by Electro Something » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:49 pm

idkwtfI’mdoing wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:27 pm

I’m in the same boat as you. I was gonna pick up the melodicer but I’ve read people are having problems with on the melodicer thread.
What kind of problems have you heard about? I haven't ran into anything so far.

idkwtfI’mdoing
Common Wiggler
Posts: 71
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:20 pm

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by idkwtfI’mdoing » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:53 pm

Electro Something wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:49 pm
idkwtfI’mdoing wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:27 pm

I’m in the same boat as you. I was gonna pick up the melodicer but I’ve read people are having problems with on the melodicer thread.
What kind of problems have you heard about? I haven't ran into anything so far.
I think it has to do with clocking or something. I linked the thread but the last page gets into detail.

Sorry for high jacking. I’m definitely waiting for the SI but figured I’d throw this out there for people who are interested in the vermona or can’t get a hold of the SI.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=235255

jss9h
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 4
Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:12 pm
Location: Leicesstershire UK

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by jss9h » Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:27 am

Do you have to be vegan to get one of these, or will you accept orders from hardened carnivores as well?
Seriously I have just been reading some really good news - that the SIG is in production at last. My question - how long do I wait to see if you email me? You see I made several attempts to contact Omsonic after expressing my interest, and because I never received any replies I do not even know if I am ON the waiting list, and I REALLY want one of these. I asked if I needed to send a deposit - no reply. I asked what I needed to do to get on the waitlist - no reply - etc etc. PLease can you say how long I may have wait before I try oredring one off the website??
Many thanks for all your efforts and good luck with the new company and products.

User avatar
phinland
Common Wiggler
Posts: 177
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:19 am
Location: Plymouth, UK

Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by phinland » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:23 am

jss9h wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:27 am
Do you have to be vegan to get one of these, or will you accept orders from hardened carnivores as well?
Seriously I have just been reading some really good news - that the SIG is in production at last. My question - how long do I wait to see if you email me? You see I made several attempts to contact Omsonic after expressing my interest, and because I never received any replies I do not even know if I am ON the waiting list, and I REALLY want one of these. I asked if I needed to send a deposit - no reply. I asked what I needed to do to get on the waitlist - no reply - etc etc. PLease can you say how long I may have wait before I try oredring one off the website??
Many thanks for all your efforts and good luck with the new company and products.
Hahaha! :-) Open to all, I promise... Maybe agree take a moment to read the science and neuroethics though? Not for me: for our planet, our kids, and 95000 sentient animals every second? ;-)

Thanks too for the kind words––I just can't commit to when the public sale will start, but I hope it won't be too long (see next post for general update).

I'm really sorry about not hearing from omsonic, I'm sure you've read the thread so know the issues that necessitated the birth of SI. If you PM me with the email you used, I can confirm whether you're on the list and insert you if we don't have you (but we almost certainly do).

Cheers dude :-)
Stochastic Instruments Ltd. - https://stochasticinstruments.com/
Rethink Random // Create Chaos // Perform Process

dBs Music Modular Research Group - https://www.dbsmusic.co.uk/

Save the world entire: Go veganhttp://phinland.net/wp/vegan

Post Reply

Return to “Eurorack Modules”