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Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by phinland » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:52 am

auxpin wrote:
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Thanks for the updates, so pleased it is going well for you. I can't wait to get mine, hope I'm nearing the top of the list ;)
Just a little way yet, but you're approaching, and as I say, we're steaming through :-)
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Post by deftinwulf » Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:16 am

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Thanks for those really kind words! Blue panels not a problem either! :-) If you drop me a line at https://www.stochasticinstruments.com/contact I'll add you to the notification list!
Done... Thanks! :)

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Post by auxpin » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:13 am

phinland wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:52 am
auxpin wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:33 am
Thanks for the updates, so pleased it is going well for you. I can't wait to get mine, hope I'm nearing the top of the list ;)
Just a little way yet, but you're approaching, and as I say, we're steaming through :-)
Thanks Phin :tu:
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Post by phinland » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:30 am

Quick general reminder. I've had a few PM's whose wording suggests a few people are thinking I was running omsonic's emails when he was not replying. To confirm:

omsonic is run by Fenn Marks

Stochastic Instruments is run by me, Phin Head (and Stuart MacVeigh but I do all the emails)

SI is a completely separate company from omsonic. I am not and was never any part of omsonic at all. Even when omsonic was connected with the project, I had no control over what was (or wasn't) happening. My name only appeared on the omsonic SIG panels because SIG was my original design and concept: omsonic was solely acting as its manufacturer, seller and support. I have never managed his emails, contact forms or any other notifications, either for SIG or any other module. This was entirely omsonic's responsibility and of course it remains his responsibility to inform enquiring customers that he no longer has anything to do with the module if they are emailing him, and to forward those messages to me.


Around September/October 2020 I felt I had to take it upon myself to come on this thread and help out because people were getting understandably annoyed with the non-production and lack of communication (myself included). When it became apparent things were untenable I formed SI to take over all aspects of SIG's production.

I will never permit that situation to occur with SI. If you contacted omsonic about SIG and never heard back, first, I'm really sorry to hear that and would like to apologise on their behalf for that. Second, please do contact me directly at SI https://www.stochasticinstruments.com/contact or via PM here.

Again: omsonic/Fenn may still be receiving emails about Stochastic from people who don't know what's happened. He should be sending them to me/here/SI. I hope and trust he is, but if he isn't there's not much I can do other than ask him to check periodically and trust that he does so. The best thing to do to avoid this is for people who do know SI are running all things SIG is to share that online and link the SI site/this thread.

Cheers!
Phin :-)
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Re: Omsonic/dBs Stochastic Inspiration Generator

Post by Umcorps » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:11 am

Todays experiment....


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Post by phinland » Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:14 pm

Umcorps wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:11 am
Todays experiment....
Fantastic, wonky, and wild! :-) Love it! :-)
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Post by Umcorps » Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:16 pm

It also acquired a very basic bass along the way....

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Post by phinland » Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:29 pm

Umcorps wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:16 pm
It also acquired a very basic bass along the way....
Oh YEAH––that really makes it! :love:
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Post by akavalve » Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:59 am

I just got mine yesterday. Shipping was really quick (6 days I think) from UK to US.

I'm digging in and getting a feel for it.
One first impression - I hadn't figured I'd use the loop function much but I love it.
I hadn't realized that each channel (I have the expander too) can loop independently and loops can be restarted from memory meaning they can be used as 'parts' to ground things if they're getting too nebulous. Really great.

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Post by phinland » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:06 am

akavalve wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:59 am
I just got mine yesterday. Shipping was really quick (6 days I think) from UK to US.

I'm digging in and getting a feel for it.
One first impression - I hadn't figured I'd use the loop function much but I love it.
I hadn't realized that each channel (I have the expander too) can loop independently and loops can be restarted from memory meaning they can be used as 'parts' to ground things if they're getting too nebulous. Really great.
Oh fantastic! It's landed! Great to hear you like it! Please share YouTubes of what you're doing with it, we'd love to see! Remember too that the 4 channels are all independent not only in their probabilities and loops, but their barlines too, so you can have 4-way polymeter if you like! (And, don't forget, your loops can go backwards too!)

We tried really hard to balance maximal functionality, intuitive intelligibility, depth, immediacy and performability, so I'm thrilled to bits to hear you're exploring it and it's coming up with the goods! :-)

Cheers!
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Post by tiny333 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:07 pm

I’m very excited this is finally here ! Woot !

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Post by phinland » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:44 am

tiny333 wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:07 pm
I’m very excited this is finally here ! Woot !
Cheers tiny! So am I! ;)
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Post by akavalve » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:49 pm

This was certainly more fun in real life and in stereo but in the interest of sharing early...here's mono iphone vid of a 'from scratch' sequence moving through getting the 4 tracks going, setting loops and then setting the loop lengths. All the button combos would drive me crazy if it weren't for the matrixed quick reference in the manual. I love the way that is laid out and have memorized the combos I care most about already because of the presentation. Nicely done, Phin,


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Post by Naenyn » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:26 pm

akavalve wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:49 pm
Nice video! The camera angle confused me at first in to thinking the module had LEDs at the tips of some of its pots. Hah.

Man, this thing just screams creative potential. Take my freakin money, Phin! :hihi: :hyper:
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Post by phinland » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:14 am

akavalve wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:49 pm
...a 'from scratch' sequence moving through getting the 4 tracks going, setting loops and...loop lengths.
All the button combos would drive me crazy if it weren't for the matrixed quick reference in the manual. I love the way that is laid out and have memorized the combos I care most about already because of the presentation. Nicely done, Phin,
Another amazing piece! Really blown away by how easily people seem to be integrating SIG into their compositional workflow, and how quickly they're getting to grips with the deeper functions! Thanks hugely too for the feedback about the manual: I actually spent a lot of time beta testing that too, as well as SIG itself because I wanted to hit the right balance between context (it's a new idea with lots of additional functionality) and brevity (you want to get in a play, not manual dive).

I was a bit concerned that the table was maybe too colourful or densely packed but it was the only way I could think of getting the whole manual on one page so it's great to hear that it made sense to (at least one of!) you.

The tricks to remember are...
  • White silkscreen lettering refers to Primary Functions
  • Gold lettering refers to Secondary/Tertiary Functions
  • Ssssecondary functions (pot+Loop) do Sssscale/pitch-based things
  • Ttttertiary functions (pot+Run) do TtttrEG/Ttttime-based things
Cheers for another great video! :-)
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Post by phinland » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:15 am

Naenyn wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:26 pm
akavalve wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:49 pm
Man, this thing just screams creative potential. Take my freakin money, Phin! :hihi: :hyper:
Hahaha! :hihi: Not long now, promise. ;)
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Post by Umcorps » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:57 am

+1 for the one page manual.

I have it printed out. If I had one I’d laminate it too 😀

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Post by phinland » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:22 am

Umcorps wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:57 am
+1 for the one page manual. I have it printed out. If I had one I’d laminate it too 😀
Hahaha! Genius!

Glad to hear it's making sense then!
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Post by akavalve » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:16 am

phinland wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:14 am
  • Ssssecondary functions (pot+Loop) do Sssscale/pitch-based things
  • Ttttertiary functions (pot+Run) do TtttrEG/Ttttime-based things
The alliterative association quite helpful. Thanks!

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Post by naturalbornthiccums » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:52 pm

I had a dream that I got the email. when I woke up, I checked my inbox and nothing was there :waah:

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Post by akavalve » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:07 pm

naturalbornthiccums wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:52 pm
I had a dream that I got the email. when I woke up, I checked my inbox and nothing was there :waah:
Try waking up again?

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Post by phinland » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:26 pm

naturalbornthiccums wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:52 pm
I had a dream that I got the email. when I woke up, I checked my inbox and nothing was there :waah:
Ooooh, sorry dude...but not long now I promise.

p.s. I love that it's now become called "The Email" :-)
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Post by phinland » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:27 am

Just thought I'd share some of the absolutely incredible responses we've been getting as SIGs have been landing over the past month.

Thank you all so, so much, this makes everything worth it.

https://www.stochasticinstruments.com/feedback

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Post by akavalve » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:19 am

Another patch experiment - this one is 'hit play and let STIG do it's thing':

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Post by phinland » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:20 am

Another great patch! :-) (Left a comment too on your YT)

By the way, this leads me to a question: I've always put my SIG Expander to the right of the main module... I assumed that would be ubiquitous, but the more YouTubes I see the more I think I'm in the minority!

Votes for Expander lefties vs Expander righties?
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