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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Granny » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:21 am

i would dig a dedicated looper and a stereo filter if thats possible

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Electro Something » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:10 am

n00b question - Does the FX Aid pass through the analogue audio signal, or is it first converted to digital then converted back to analogue?

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by megarat » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:06 pm

Electro Something wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:10 am
n00b question - Does the FX Aid pass through the analogue audio signal, or is it first converted to digital then converted back to analogue?
It’s DSP-based, so it’s digital.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by starthief » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:16 pm

Electro Something wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:10 am
n00b question - Does the FX Aid pass through the analogue audio signal, or is it first converted to digital then converted back to analogue?
Do you mean is the dry signal "true bypass?" I assume it is, because sample rate reduction doesn't affect the dry signal.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by brandonlogic » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:19 pm

igorrr confirmed earlier in this thread that the dry path is analog.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by scragz » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:19 pm

Electro Something wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:10 am
n00b question - Does the FX Aid pass through the analogue audio signal, or is it first converted to digital then converted back to analogue?
megarat wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:06 pm
It’s DSP-based, so it’s digital.
The dry signal path and mixing is analogue.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by megarat » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:32 pm

scragz wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:19 pm
The dry signal path and mixing is analogue.
Thanks for the clarity, I hadn’t thought it that far through.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Electro Something » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:33 pm

Cool cool thanks all!

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by nostalghia » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:45 pm

Silver and black XL version still in stock at Analogue Haven if any US wigglers are looking.

Mine is on the way, looking forward to exploring. Have been adding all my reverb via outboard rack unit or in DAW during mixdown, but the FX Aid was just too hard to resist. Will be fun to have the cv parameters. Going in my main case at end of audio chain after E560 and Chronoblob 2.
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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Funky40 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:51 pm

brandonlogic wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:39 am
good ideas Funky40. this could be a whole new category of FX Aid effects. compressors, limiters, duckers, gates, side chain, etc!
Granny wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:20 am
I would guess that wouldn't work well as the reaction time would be pretty slow
It´s ofcourse a question how fast it can go or how slow the CV in would be for side chain uses?
but mono "dynamic FX" would allready be a GREAT addition to the FXaid *, in case the whole "dynamic processor" thing is doable (?)
* Maybe using Audio input R for sidechaining/ducking would change here something ?


a thing worth to emphasize in this regards:
On the other side, much things i do with compressors are relying on quite slow attack times, really !
100ms, 200ms, 300ms, and even up
Funnily i found once a YT Video by Rob Babicz ( or however the name is) know as Rob Acid iirc,
which turned Mastering engeneer and got also a big reputation in this role,
and he also mentioned to use (very) slow attacks, but faster decays as a special trick when doing mastering.
Exactly what i mostoften do when using compressors

fact is: i have several hardware comps who´s longest attack time setting is just not long enough.
They go usually up to 250ms iirc.
so even if the fastest attack time would be just 200ms or so, would this allready work greatly greatly greatly for several great things !
just to say ;)

.....NOT expecting anything ! the FXaid IS allready a real Gift for my Rack as is !!
happy customer as is !


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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by aber » Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:20 am

would a JP8000 Supersaw type algorithm be possible?

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Kattefjaes » Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:36 am

A heads-up in case it's useful, Signal Sounds have stock. I just ordered an XL.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by nostalghia » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:52 am

aber wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:20 am
would a JP8000 Supersaw type algorithm be possible?
Maybe. Take a look at Happy Nerding’s Super Sawtor module. It’s entirely analog though, not dsp. A form of waveshaping.
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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Kattefjaes » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:35 am

nostalghia wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:52 am
aber wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:20 am
would a JP8000 Supersaw type algorithm be possible?
Maybe. Take a look at Happy Nerding’s Super Sawtor module. It’s entirely analog though, not dsp. A form of waveshaping.
More to the point, Acid Rain Chainsaw.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by igorrr » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:58 am

aber wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:20 am
would a JP8000 Supersaw type algorithm be possible?
I will try to make something usable. In the meantime you can check “Chorus into Reverb” effect, which can transform any simple waveform to a wide unison sound.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by JonoVizion » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:06 am

The FX Aids 8 voice chorus with Deckard’s Voice is fantastic!

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Post by Tonescape » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:15 pm

Sorry to fill up this space, but just got two Fx Aid through the door and damn, they are awesome!
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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by zerodivide » Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:32 am

love my FXAid but small question.. anybody getting distortion if the levels fed into it are a bit on the higher side? seems I have to turn my VCA down to 50% to avoid this

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by autopoiesis » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:57 am

re: previous post =>
ronnieb wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:32 am
Squallaz wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:27 am
Hi guys. No one is experiencing any distortion coming from the output of some algorithms of the module?
Edit: Igor explains below
igorrr wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 4:14 am
FX AID's input should not exceed -7V...+7 V, which is a wise compromise.
FX AID's output is limited to -6V...+6V, which is also a wise compromise, so dry and wet mix is never above 10 V.
I deliberately limited it to 10V vs 12 V, because some other modules can be following FX AID, and them are not obliged to use rail to rail parts to be safe from nasty distortion. How can I explain to a client that FX AID's output is heavily distorted being fed to his/her X times more expensive module from a popular brand?
FX AID has 3 dB Dry/Wet mixing law to avoid level drop at 50/50 mixing. This required dropping dry amplitude a bit to fit to the above described limits.
In other words, just attenuate the signal a bit going in and you should be fine

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Squallaz » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:07 am

Another question: what happen if i feed both inputs into a mono in effect?
Like in the cloud reverb, it is mono in / stereo out, but i can hear a difference if i plug or unplug the right channel in

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Exit Chamber » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:19 am

The wet signal is summed pre FX, the dry portion of the signal remains stereo.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Squallaz » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:44 am

Exit Chamber wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:19 am
The wet signal is summed pre FX, the dry portion of the signal remains stereo.
Makes sense. Thank you.

The new lofi junky mode sounds amazing i think i'm going to buy another 4hp module.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Exit Chamber » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:50 am

Squallaz wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:44 am
Exit Chamber wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:19 am
The wet signal is summed pre FX, the dry portion of the signal remains stereo.
Makes sense. Thank you.

The new lofi junky mode sounds amazing i think i'm going to buy another 4hp module.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly :lol: one just isn't enough.

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