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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Tonescape » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:59 am

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Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:13 pm
There is just no other compact module with better programs display than FX AID. Others are more difficult to see the selected program – different brightness/color combinations. Improvement can only be with proper text display, but it needs space.
Disting mk4 is one of the most used eurorack modules – has it better interface? Can you arrange the effects within it, so they follow your own chosen sequence? Does it require a “cheat sheet” to be used?
Plaits like program selection = limit to the factory chosen effects of 16, so can not fit FX AID.
I may do a bigger version later.
If you will provide finger width space on from both FX AIDs sides, then it is not hard to twist the knobs from these sides.
And designing compact module is more costly and much harder. FX AID has three PCB boards, two of which are 4-layer, so total 10 layers. Voltage controlled stereo Dry/wet circuit alone, if made as a separate module, will be prices in a range of 120 USD by most manufacturers.
I think you made the right choice. I have owned 6hp modules with way worse interfaces (Endorphines Milky Way anyone?).

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by igorrr » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:39 am

Tried different firmware update levels: it properly updates from maximum range of -1.2V…+1.2V down to -0.1V…+0.1V.
Please note that line level update amplitude was chosen on purpose – it allows update from mobile devices/ipads. And level decrease is always available through the volume adjustments, but boosting level requires external amp module.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by jsco » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:52 am

Shipment to Analogue Haven is on the way.
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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by southberry » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:12 am

I will try this one very soon if I can catch a black edition in 2 weeks in Europe.
looks a bit crammed but I'm happy it's only 4HP. (my system is a travelling 80HP x 12U ... with 160HP limited to 30mm max module ... so space is always a tricky thing when I want to add something ... ) I already have a Erbeverb for crazy CV reverb, but I need a second small stereo i/o end of chain reverb and this one seems perfect for one. maybe I will change the pots for smaller one, but I need to play with it IRL to see if it's a real problem or not ...
I tried the Milky Way few weeks ago and the noise issue was a no-go ... and I send it back ...

of Fx Aid the fact you can manage the algo order is amazing ... I can imagine how useful it is for live performance

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by igorrr » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:26 am

southberry wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:12 am
... with 160HP limited to 30mm max module ...
You would need around 40 mm depth to fit the FX AID.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by nuttymad » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:59 am

I couldn’t be happier with this module. Totally worth the wait. The editor app and update was a breeze for me. It took a few tries adjusting the volume from my MacBook but now I know the exact volume level it needs to be set to. It is very cool how it sets up a printable list of the order your effects are in. Nice work, Igor!

One question though: if the dry/wet is set to dry are you supposed to send negative voltage to get it to go wet? That seems backwards to me?

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by igorrr » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:38 pm

Yes, CV control for Dry/Wet is opposite: positive voltage moves it from Wet to Dry. So you need negative voltage to move it from Dry to Wet.
CV control for sample rate reduction: positive voltage decreases Sample Rate, negative voltage increases it up to 48 kHz.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by shoottofill » Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:22 pm

rayultine wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:18 am
yup. Never got it to work. :/
i finally did playing it off a zoom h1 recorder. worked first time with no adjustments.
for whatever reason it would never work off my macbook.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Funky40 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:10 pm

some players on the PC don´t work well for these kind of updates !


my FXaid update was the easiest of all "audiofile" updates i´ve ever donne.
if its not working from the PC/Mac, try different players.
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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by southberry » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:39 am

igorrr wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:26 am
southberry wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:12 am
... with 160HP limited to 30mm max module ...
You would need around 40 mm depth to fit the FX AID.
yes I know ! that's why I said the HP can be something important when you only have 160HP of >30mm depth modules ;) (to the people who are complaining about the size ... it's different when it's for a big studio / home huge system or a small live portable setup ...

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by cackland » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:57 pm

Came across this video, which imo did a great job of go through the various reverb algo's.


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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by rayultine » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:59 pm

Igor,
Any chance you could do a "date added" tag to the fx in the editor, so we can know when you add cool new stuff. Is the module amenable to developing distortion/fuzz/feedback fx?

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by yrn1 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:27 pm

Just installed mine today. Really impressed! I used to have a Z-DSP, but this definitely tops it: much bigger choice in quality effects, especially in the reverbs. Noisefloor seems lower too (though this is from memory, I can’t pit them against each other anymore) and it definitely doesn’t clip as soon either.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by joskery » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:53 pm

Tops the Z-DSP? As in, the Valhalla stuff, too?

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Nielsen » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:43 am

Nielsen wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:46 am
BananaPlug wrote:
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If somebody wants to use FX AID 100% wet all the time, I can make the custom boost for the wet level.
Good to know. That would be pretty common ask for applications where module is between mixer aux bus and effect return.
That would be awesome! But this is not an firmware option, right? I like my two FX AIDS a lot, but in fact they‘re in my usecase a little bit too quite.
Is it possible to raise the output level via a firmware update?

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by yrn1 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:59 am

joskery wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:53 pm
Tops the Z-DSP? As in, the Valhalla stuff, too?
Valhalla is great, but none of them have predelay (as far as I remember) and the chorus is too subtle for me. There are just plenty more options to shape your sound in FX Aid. Valhalla Shimmer is by far not as good as the shimmers in FX Aid. Especially the controls are more useful. Of course, that’s just my opinion. I don’t think there is an objective better or worse reverb, once you get to the quality both modules offer. I just gel (a lot) more with what the FX Aid offers. And that’s just the reverbs. I didn’t have all the delay cards for z dsp, just dragonfly and the pitch-shifting one, forgot the name but they don’t even come close to FX Aid. Never tried the newer Z dsp delay cards though.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by igorrr » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:11 pm

I will add the “new” label to the total list, so the user can clearly notice newly added/updated effects since his/her last visit. This label will be active for two weeks, so during these two weeks the user can properly see and test new effects.

Distortion/fuzz effects will be added of course.

Just uploaded reverbs with boosted level, two times in average. Now the wet signal is louder for reverbs. I will need a couple of days to check/update other similar effects (Delays into Reverbs,…).

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by rayultine » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:57 pm

yeeeooowwww! Thanks Igor!

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by th0mas » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:14 pm

th0mas wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:02 pm
Hi,

Are there any demos showing the delays and reverbs under significant modulation or feedback? I want to hear it do it's best erbe-verb "insane noises from the other world" territory, even though I know it's silly to compare the two..
Anyone got audio demos like this? I think my request got lost in the size debates.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by igorrr » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:33 pm

Spin FV-1 dsp chip itself slews adjustable parameters, so crazy modulations speeds are not possible, maximum usable LFO speed is several Hz.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by Granny » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:19 pm

this module is great. just got it from schneider's. would it be possible to have two different mono effects at the same time? :hide:

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by igorrr » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:28 pm

No, single set of controls for two different mono effects has hardly any sense.

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by VanEck » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:50 pm

Granny wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:19 pm
this module is great. just got it from schneider's. would it be possible to have two different mono effects at the same time? :hide:
just buy two of them and run them in series mono?
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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by ronnieb » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:41 am

Granny wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:19 pm
this module is great. just got it from schneider's. would it be possible to have two different mono effects at the same time? :hide:
When you say 'just got', how recent are we talking?

Waiting for a second batch cause I missed the first but assuming it'll be mid/late Feb at the earliest.
So keen to get my hands on one of these :guinness:

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Re: FX AID - multi audio effect module

Post by aroom » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:52 am

igorrr wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:28 pm
No, single set of controls for two different mono effects has hardly any sense.
maybe to be able to get the same effect on two differents voices without having to mix/merge them?

it's always nice to be able to ditch a module

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