Schippmann to end Eurorack production

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Alexander Kuznetsov » Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:46 pm

In your opinion, how big is the difference between the VCF-1E and VCF-02?

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:49 pm

LOL Jaypee :)
(using these modules give me more pleasure than :fap: )
I expect prices to be... not cheap... If we are around 500€ per module that will be quite OK...

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:51 pm

Alexander Kuznetsov wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:46 pm
In your opinion, how big is the difference between the VCF-1E and VCF-02?
VCF2 is more liquid whereas VCF1 is more "brutal" somehow (but can still be cream though).
Also VCF2 is incredibly more flexible in terms of modulations, much easier to patch considered the numerous inputs.
VCF1 might be more versatile sound-wise though, less "stamped liquid".
I think VCF2 is my most favorite overall, still.

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Alexander Kuznetsov » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:38 pm

Jee wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:51 pm
Alexander Kuznetsov wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:46 pm
In your opinion, how big is the difference between the VCF-1E and VCF-02?
VCF2 is more liquid whereas VCF1 is more "brutal" somehow (but can still be cream though).
Also VCF2 is incredibly more flexible in terms of modulations, much easier to patch considered the numerous inputs.
VCF1 might be more versatile sound-wise though, less "stamped liquid".
I think VCF2 is my most favorite overall, still.
Thanks!

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by damase » Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:39 pm

Jee wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:08 am
Jaypee wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:31 pm
Can you post a Pic of this beauty Jee?
Here you go, with the terrible iphone lens deformation :lol:
Just enough space left for 2 DTG and 2 DLFO (I'll kick out a bunch of modules like rampage that I'll sell along with erica synth modules and DLD moving in a pod as well as Pamela)
that is quite nice. gonna be beautiful with the new modules we will need an updated pic
ill also highly recommend the vermona quadropol with your omega phi voices for waveform mixing and ringmodding. Mine will never leave the Ophi side, unless carsten releases his vca ever. for waveform mixing it sounds so much more pristine and clear than the quadatt

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:58 pm

Thanks for the tip! I didn’t pay attention about the vermona vca.
I use quadratt for CV but also for waveforms mixing indeed. But most often I do it with the nanomodule ALT which is ok but not a killer. VCA’s are a tough choice it’s hard to find a good compromise...
I might consider the vermona then !
It does cool ringmod?

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by damase » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:51 pm

Jee wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:58 pm
It does cool ringmod?
yes! im not an expert but the ringmod sounds super clean to me. using as a vca too its comes across as hi-fi to my ears. you can ringmod the sine with the phi sine under modulation and it gets really clean but dynamic result. its got a very easy to find dead spot so you can easily use it however you like. i love the module very much, surprised it doesnt get more hype

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Wubz » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:21 pm

So, are the 2 latest modules not going to be available then? The LFO and the EG?

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by monads » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:08 pm

^the plan is for both to go to production soon! prototypes appear working well as designed per Carstsen.

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:58 am

damase wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:51 pm
Jee wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:58 pm
It does cool ringmod?
yes! im not an expert but the ringmod sounds super clean to me. using as a vca too its comes across as hi-fi to my ears. you can ringmod the sine with the phi sine under modulation and it gets really clean but dynamic result. its got a very easy to find dead spot so you can easily use it however you like. i love the module very much, surprised it doesnt get more hype
It seems the module is quite flexible as a polarizer and/or VCA (VC polarizer concretely). Am I correctly understanding that if you have a negative offset of -100% and a positive +5V CV in you would end up with 0 at the output?
Therefore to have it works as a VCA you need to have offset in neutral position. Correct?

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by damase » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:42 pm

Jee wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:58 am
damase wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:51 pm
Jee wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:58 pm
It does cool ringmod?
yes! im not an expert but the ringmod sounds super clean to me. using as a vca too its comes across as hi-fi to my ears. you can ringmod the sine with the phi sine under modulation and it gets really clean but dynamic result. its got a very easy to find dead spot so you can easily use it however you like. i love the module very much, surprised it doesnt get more hype
It seems the module is quite flexible as a polarizer and/or VCA (VC polarizer concretely). Am I correctly understanding that if you have a negative offset of -100% and a positive +5V CV in you would end up with 0 at the output?
Therefore to have it works as a VCA you need to have offset in neutral position. Correct?
that is correct,on the vermona quadropol...
the knob is applying audio gain to the respective audio input, in either the positive or negative direction, the cv input is at full scale (you need external attenuation or to use an extra channel for it.). 10v is the full swing, so 5v will fully open the vca in positive direction from the center position. the channels are all chained from top to bottom also unless you break normalization with a patch cable on a channels’ output

and the center position is very easy to find, i dont know how vermona has done it but theyve scaled it perfectly so that you can easily get a totally dead center but also make very fine adjustments close to zero. its brilliant

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:01 pm

Ok Nice! That definitely puts it in the list then. I am still not happy with the VCA side of my case. Tallin is cool but is not the cleanest surgical sound (it warms nicely the sound I find it cool but not for all applications) the 1u vca’s intellijel are cool for stereo audio or CV but I still lack a quality super clean VCA...
I intended to have 12 vca’s in the case which seems a minimum for 4 voices... (we never have enough vca’s aren’t we?)
maybe quadropol if it sound very clean in audio...
the octal VCA from Schippmann would have been perfect here despite the fact I couldn’t fit it in the case xD

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:18 pm

We can't have enough Omega-Phi...
Sweet short piece around a few triads played with 3 Omega-Phi and VCF's.
More info about the patch in the description in SC if you like.
Enjoy.

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by damase » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:38 am

3pand wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:37 am
prices announced! http://www.schippmann-music.com
nice! not even that bad.... my opinion at least, its not more that i hoped and not less than i expected.
DTG in production first
only 80 pieces being produced... really, it will be super rare status after production.

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:52 am

Order placed for 2x DTG and 2x DLFO !
I hope production will not last too long now :p
:party: :party:

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by damase » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:55 pm

Jee wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:52 am
Order placed for 2x DTG and 2x DLFO !
I hope production will not last too long now :p
:party: :party:
how did you place order? did he email you from being on the list?

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by 3pand » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:58 pm

damase wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:38 am

nice! not even that bad.... my opinion at least, its not more that i hoped and not less than i expected.
DTG in production first
only 80 pieces being produced... really, it will be super rare status after production.
I completely agree, I wasn't sure what would happen to the prices when doing a limited run but this is super fair and I can't imagine it being any less.

@Jee haha wow that's gonna be amazing!

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Wubz » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:02 pm

how many orders does he need to go forward? i'm I'm sure I'm going to pick up the DTG, see how I get on with my other two schippmanns when they arrive on MONDAY!!

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by mojopin » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:12 pm

So to match levels on my PHS-28, I need to put the INPUT B attenuator at half the level (at 5). Is this a problem with the pot or something else? Can't imagine sending this out to get fixed since I think it works and I use it all the time..hard to tell with all the settings on this one!!

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:48 pm

@3pand: yeah I am thinking since weeks about possibles patches that can be made wit these babies, they are such original designs that it's been long I didn't brainstorm with myself so long to figure out potential uses! :hyper:
Really refreshing stuff somehow, I can't wait :)
And I also agree that the prices are fair considered the small batches.

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by 3pand » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:48 pm

Jee wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:48 pm
@3pand: yeah I am thinking since weeks about possibles patches that can be made wit these babies, they are such original designs that it's been long I didn't brainstorm with myself so long to figure out potential uses! :hyper:
Really refreshing stuff somehow, I can't wait :)
And I also agree that the prices are fair considered the small batches.
I'm also super excited about them and can't wait to get into patching with them. It's so cool seeing these Schippmann designs that are not based on sound-making or sound passing through but still are equally as brilliant as all of the incredible sounding stuff he has made in the past.

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by MvK » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:47 pm

damn, I'll have to pass this time. I'm looking forward to the next time Schippmann is about to end eurorack production :-)

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by oneiric.tomb » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:50 am

I'd love to hear more about the esoteric functions and feaures of the dual envelope too, I know there was a bit mentioned earlier in this thread, but designers like schippmann sometimes seem to presume that it would be obvious but I have to admit I never would have guessed something like the trick to self patch for the super exponential curve etc.
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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:00 am

self patching the env to itself is a common trick I used a lot with linear only envelopes in the past, works quite well most often :)
Release estimated 07/08/20 for DTG, wooot!
Carsten refused to take the order for DLFO but I guess he will make them separately later on.
wait & see!

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