Ensemble Oscillator from Matthias Puech & 4ms Company

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Re: Ensemble Oscillator from Matthias Puech & 4ms Company

Post by Cosmoplast » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:52 am

I love my 4MS Ensemble Oscillator:


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Post by starthief » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:16 pm

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Thank you for the detailed response. If I am understanding you correctly, instead of programming a full scale into the Ensemble, I would be better off programming a specific chord into it and then ensuring that chord is in tune with the other voices in my system. Then, if I added the other oscillators inside of Ensemble, they would follow the "scale" of that chord I programmed in. Does that sound right?
Yep! And you still might want to switch between "scales" (chords) during the song rather than staying on one specific one.

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Post by hawkfuzz » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:53 pm

I use it with a sequencer that has scales galore. If I'm in a "scale" with the EnOsc it's easy to match it. It is the only manual I have that's not gone in it's box a few weeks after getting the module, mostly to quickly reference the scales.

I just started exploring the single oscillator parts of it and that itself is worth the price of admission. Getting a sequence while playing with the parameters is very fun.

It does pad stuff tremendously and yes it can do other stuff. It works great slowly modulated but you can dial in some amazing faster and audio rate stuff...it's all about how much time you put it.
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Post by pablowdadon » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:27 am

starthief wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:24 am
pablowdadon wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:44 am
Can anybody compare this to Manis Iteritas?
I had a Manis for a while. It's basically a sawtooth oscillator with (a couple of kinds of distortion) and a filter. I liked it for dark and weighty sounds, though it can also get harsh. But really it's nothing at all like ENOSC, though to a very limited extent ENOSC might be able to imitate some of the sounds Manis can make.
I could see some resemblance between these two oscillators:
Both shares Additive core
NE Profoundity / 4ms Spread
NE Smash / 4ms Warp
I was asking mainly because Manis is really limited when it comes to additive oscillators and i wanted to dig deeper into morphing possibility, I know it suffers from some really techno related demos and i wanted to know from somebody that have both how can you compare them.

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Post by starthief » Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:08 am

Well, I've owned both, I don't make techno, and I don't think the sound character or usage is at all similar.

Manis does use parallel oscillators mixed together (if you turn up Profundity) but I wouldn't call it "additive" any more than I'd call a Minimoog (which does pretty much the same thing, but more flexibly) additive.

Manis feels like an analog bass synth when using it, plus extra waveshaping. And it always has this gravity and authority and pressure in its sound, like... the depths of the ocean maybe.

If I work at it, I can sort of imitate Manis with ENOSC -- sticking only to the "octaves" scale and keeping Spread low -- particularly on the buzzier side. But it doesn't have the weight of Manis. It's got a lot more versatility though and is fascinating in its own right.

(This is kind of making me miss my Manis, even though I let go of it originally because I didn't always get along with it...)

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Post by Riggar » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:57 am

on 06/08/20 - feelingthin wrote 'I'm also having a hard time with tuning. I'm noticing some drift and only 3 octaves of precise tuning. I went through the calibration process and still no luck. Any ideas? Can someone from 4ms chime in about a firmware update? I was hoping a digital module would give me perfect tracking over 5-6 octaves'

This concerns me - I'm looking for a digital VCO that will track really well for 5 or more octaves - I've got sufficient analogue VCOs that drift all over!

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Post by lmixl » Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:08 pm

Wish there would be more tutorial/demo videos about this module.

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Post by hawkfuzz » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:05 pm

What do you need to know more about? I'm sure we can get something going.

I've been putting an oscillator into the pitch input. Very fun when you find an interval and turn ROOT. You'll have ratios of the FM depending on SPREAD, SCALE, OSCILLATOR #, and CROSSFADING settings.
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Post by taotetek » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:04 am

Oscillator into the pitch input sounds fun! I've been playing with fm modulation a lot again with my Generate 3 - I think i'm going to try this with the Ensemble today.

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Post by behndy » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:05 am

i have one on the way for a small system, and am BEYOND excited.

y'all's music with it does NOT help my impatience.
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Post by mixxalot » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:31 am

Looks superb. I bet it pairs nicely with the 4ms VCA matrix and 4ms PEG and 4ms spectral filter.

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Post by Exit Chamber » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:35 am

I absolutely adore this oscillator. It's capable of so many different timbres, it's endlessly tweakable. Recorded some of it for this track:


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Post by bemushroomed » Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:50 am

anyone had a problem with crackling noise from it, usually very shorts "pops", and rarely a little longer bursts of random noise. Mine started to do that, i moved it around in my case to see if it would make a difference, nothing.. eventually i did a factory reset, it seems to have fixed it. Just curious why it happened.. maybe i accessed some functionality by mistake (learn or whatever) and messed it up.

To my ears it also sounds a bit different after the factory reset, not better or worse, just different. Could be my imagination i guess.

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Post by lmixl » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:14 am

Mine crackles/pops too...generally after some time being on and in specific modes.
How did you do the factory reset?

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Post by bemushroomed » Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:04 am

lmixl wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:14 am
Mine crackles/pops too...generally after some time being on and in specific modes.
How did you do the factory reset?
For me the mode did not matter, i tried all, it would crackle/pop just the same. i also tried exercising all knobs and switches, but it had no effect.
I don't remember the exact procedure, its in the manual. It's the usual press button(s) at power on.

Will be interesting to see if it returns..

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Post by lmixl » Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:48 pm

Thanks!

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Post by Granular » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:08 am

Recording of my First Jam Session with my new 4ms Ensemble Oscillator

Starting at around 3:25 I really found a nice Sweet Spot.

The ENSOC is modulated by MI Tides (also my First Patch with Tides)

At the Beginning you can just hear the Raw Sound from the ENSOC. Then I add Reverb from ZDSP, Magneto and later on the Mimeophon. 2hp RND is triggering the Flip Mode of Mimeophon. Ochd is Modulating the Shift/Level of Tides and the Color of the Mimeophon.

Magneto is in Shift Mode. The Infinite Mode gets Triggered Randomly from Pams.

Qu-Bit Bloom is Playing a slowly mutating 7 Step Sequence. Occasionally I play some Notes on the Pressure Points (CV out to Bloom Root CV In)

2hp RND is triggering the Flip Mode of Mimeophon.


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Post by behndy » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:07 am

very cool!

this is the EnsOsc with left into a WMD Javelin, right a Noise Engineering Sinc Bucina -

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Post by DoverBeach » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:58 pm

Just received an ensosc, I'm pretty much a noob, always played classic synths. I noticed that there is no gate input in the module, so the module is always making sounds when I sequence it... Is there a workaround or am I missing something?

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Post by qiemem » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:04 pm

DoverBeach wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:58 pm
Just received an ensosc, I'm pretty much a noob, always played classic synths. I noticed that there is no gate input in the module, so the module is always making sounds when I sequence it... Is there a workaround or am I missing something?
That's standard for modular oscillators. You probably want to pass it through a vca and then feed an envelope into the cv of the vca. You then apply your gate to the envelope.

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Post by DoverBeach » Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:29 am

qiemem wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:04 pm
DoverBeach wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:58 pm
Just received an ensosc, I'm pretty much a noob, always played classic synths. I noticed that there is no gate input in the module, so the module is always making sounds when I sequence it... Is there a workaround or am I missing something?
That's standard for modular oscillators. You probably want to pass it through a vca and then feed an envelope into the cv of the vca. You then apply your gate to the envelope.
Great, thank you!

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Post by behndy » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:08 pm

second patch with the EnsOsc. tempo sync'd LFOs and gates from Pam's into the Twist and Warp, knob twiddling for the rest -

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Post by stylesforfree » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:14 pm

I did a recording music thing.

Outputs from Maths modulating scale, warp, spread and balance.


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Post by DirkB » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:57 pm



I also did a testrun last weekend : only ENOSC sequenced by Verbos MS and SS, bass = HO, drums I don't remember, no effects (except a little reverb), no DAW
I'm thinking to post another one this weekend, it is really a fascinating VCO !

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Post by hawkfuzz » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:42 am

Has anyone put it through Rings yet? I think a resonator would serve this thing well.
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