FLUX - Temporal Modulation Rhythm Sequencer

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Re: FLUX - Temporal Modulation Rhythm Sequencer Launching Soon on Kickstarter

Post by vouna » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:36 pm

Been considering picking up a sampler to go with FLUX, possibly assimil8or. Curious what others are looking forward to pairing with FLUX when it arrives?

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Post by mdoudoroff » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:39 pm

Sounds like there’ll be a major public web site update in the next week or two.

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Post by Marizu » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:44 pm

vouna wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:36 pm
Been considering picking up a sampler to go with FLUX, possibly assimil8or. Curious what others are looking forward to pairing with FLUX when it arrives?
For sampling duties, I have a Bitbox Micro. I've had it since release and it seems pretty cool so far, but it is a little low on inputs. You have to spend a bit of thought and time choosing and managing the inputs. The full size Bitbox 2 looks better in that regard.
Assimil8or looks absolutely amazing, A couple of my friends have it, and the sound quality is incredible. There are a good number of inputs for each voice. I really like the Micro, but my choice was constrained by budget.

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Re: FLUX - Temporal Modulation Rhythm Sequencer Launching Soon on Kickstarter

Post by Precarious » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:55 pm

Marizu wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:28 pm
Yeah. I'm a backer and his weekly updates are only visible to us. He's been making solid progress, taking feedback and making improvements the whole time. I can't wait to get hold of it!
Seriously, he thinks of things I wouldn't have. The new swing features are pretty nuts. It's hard to keep track of all the innovations that have come after the campaign ended as he finalizes the initial firmware. So many incredible features added.

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Post by mdoudoroff » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:34 pm

Regarding the sampler question, I’m no expert, but one thing I’ve noticed about Flux is that it can generate so many triggers so quickly that sampler latency and how it behaves with retriggering may all matter more than usual.

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Post by Precarious » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:43 pm

mdoudoroff wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:34 pm
Regarding the sampler question, I’m no expert, but one thing I’ve noticed about Flux is that it can generate so many triggers so quickly that sampler latency and how it behaves with retriggering may all matter more than usual.
That's what I'd suspect. And even a sampler with low enough latency will give dead air if there is even the tiniest amount of silence at the beginning of the sample.

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Post by Funky40 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:41 pm

time will tell what samplers will work, how good, and how good compared to another,
and how far we could come with CV2midi to just trigger that desktop or racksampler.

maybe *that* should "then" become a own thread,..... i´d suggest to do so.
could be a complex topic with alots to tell or discuss.
and might be a win to have it dense in one spot, rather than beeing burried in the depth of all other talking


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Post by Funky40 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:42 pm

and, ohh yeah, to w atch the development of the fW was just :yay:

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Post by Macro/micro » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:57 pm

Funky40 wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:41 pm
time will tell what samplers will work, how good, and how good compared to another,
and how far we could come with CV2midi to just trigger that desktop or racksampler.

maybe *that* should "then" become a own thread,..... i´d suggest to do so.
could be a complex topic with alots to tell or discuss.
and might be a win to have it dense in one spot, rather than beeing burried in the depth of all other talking
I support this notion of having a separate thread to talk about anything related to it triggering other units, their latency, etc.

I’m a kickstarter pledger and CANT WAIT to mess with it! Definitely been my best experience with backing a product on Kickstarter, his updates are awesome.

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Re: FLUX - Temporal Modulation Rhythm Sequencer Launching Soon on Kickstarter

Post by vouna » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:58 pm

Marizu wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:44 pm
For sampling duties, I have a Bitbox Micro. I've had it since release and it seems pretty cool so far, but it is a little low on inputs. You have to spend a bit of thought and time choosing and managing the inputs. The full size Bitbox 2 looks better in that regard.
Assimil8or looks absolutely amazing, A couple of my friends have it, and the sound quality is incredible. There are a good number of inputs for each voice. I really like the Micro, but my choice was constrained by budget.
was considering bitbox micro 2, similar points to my considerations.
Funky40 wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:41 pm
time will tell what samplers will work, how good, and how good compared to another,
and how far we could come with CV2midi to just trigger that desktop or racksampler.

maybe *that* should "then" become a own thread,..... i´d suggest to do so.
could be a complex topic with alots to tell or discuss.
and might be a win to have it dense in one spot, rather than beeing burried in the depth of all other talking
I like the idea of a sampler/module latency focused thread when the FLUX drops, look forward to that :)

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Post by behndy » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:37 am

i've been a bit burnt on eurorack so haven't been keeping up with this as much as i should have. it's the first thing in awhile that's made me want to put together a little rack around it.

is it still on pace to ship this month? i totalllllly understand if a FREAKING WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC and the problems that come with that have slowed it down.
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Post by x2mirko » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:36 am

behndy wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:37 am
is it still on pace to ship this month? i totalllllly understand if a FREAKING WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC and the problems that come with that have slowed it down.
I gathered from the last updates that there have been some delays with the factories but that modules are being built and will start to ship out to backers soon. Not sure if it'll be this month, but it didn't sound like it was far off.

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Post by behndy » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:51 pm

neaaaaaat. it looks like such a beautiful bridge between predictable and too random sequencing.

i have EXCITES.
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Post by richc90 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:11 pm

my es-9 has 16 inputs :flushed:

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Post by behndy » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:57 am

the new super verbose quantization options sound boss. i hope there's still a scale option though. or one can program out an interval and save it. my theory is mediocre, being able to jump to scales i like by name is NEAT.
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Post by mdoudoroff » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:20 am

I would not expect it to be a real substitute for a good downstream quantizer. That said, a nice approach to quarter tone support, if I understand it right. Frankly, I’m quite unclear what it’s going to do for me, anyway. I think of Flux as a trigger sequencer.

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Post by Precarious » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:25 am

behndy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:57 am
the new super verbose quantization options sound boss. i hope there's still a scale option though. or one can program out an interval and save it. my theory is mediocre, being able to jump to scales i like by name is NEAT.
I've thought about it and I have to agree with you. Being able to choose a divisor for the voltage may appeal to some few with an experimental scale in mind but at the expense of convenience to the rest of us. It's already possible to select a specific voltage per step for those looking for non-traditional intervals. But I also understand the desire to keep all options open. I'll find a use for it either way. It's not a bad feature by any measure, but while selectable scales are more immediately useful to me, we can now program our own scales which is kind of the best of both worlds. :despair:

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Post by Precarious » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:35 am

mdoudoroff wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:20 am
I would not expect it to be a real substitute for a good downstream quantizer. That said, a nice approach to quarter tone support, if I understand it right. Frankly, I’m quite unclear what it’s going to do for me, anyway. I think of Flux as a trigger sequencer.
Assuming it applies to the variable voltage outputs when used to sequence pitch. Great additional feature so you don't need to use external quantization. Could really be applied to any destination you'd want the voltages to jump in steps for whatever reason. Like if you have Assimil8or jumping between samples for example.

I'm thinking this also opens the door to accurate pitch control over Buchla as well if you divide 1v by 10 since Buchla uses 1.2v/oct. :w00t:

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Post by Funky40 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:04 pm

mdoudoroff wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:20 am
anyway. I think of Flux as a trigger sequencer.
same goes for me !


i´m not yet concerned by the feature flood.
looking from outside from where we all stand for now, does it look manageable,
just ignore the functions you don´t need.......at least i hope it is so.

on the otherside does the idea appear,
how would you combine that fancy triggering with your tonal work ?
but thats not really a point for me vs. how i patched the last years.


personally, i could easily imagine that this product, the Flux trigger thingy,
could evolve into another product, .....but: ----> later please.

I really hope it will be greatly accessisble and inspiring as a trigger sequezer ---> to get Drums or percussive beats out !
Since that was the idea, no ?





ahhh wait, .....but don´t forget the toaster, since thats doable anyway :lol: ;)


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Post by behndy » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:46 pm

lol. i'm a tad confused now, and apparently a bit shit at searching.

what all outs and what can they output at this point?
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Post by richc90 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:13 am

as far as I understand: each channel has three gate outputs (the main one, and two logic/divided/delayed versions) and one cv output.

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Post by behndy » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:58 am

well shit. that's awesome. i'm putting together a drums based and osc/Nat Gates based parirof Pod64's to sit next to (an eventauuuuual. so much amazing music thingies out there, sucks that, while i understand why, it takes so long for some pieces to be built and shipped.) a Resonant Garden. i hadn't noticed all the CV extra stuff. that... is USEFUL.

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Post by maltemark » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:03 pm

I jumped on this finally and maybe financially stupidly
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Post by optx » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:52 am

I just read all the updates on kickstarter, it's awesome how many new features Barry added to the firmware.
The modulation sections are pretty deep, didn't expect it to be that useful.

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Post by dooj88 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:32 am

do i understand it correctly that this outputs triggers based on the velocity of the curve shape along the X axis? eg a triangle might output an even density of triggers, but something with a modulated fourier transformation would have a more complex rhythmic output? i'm thinking about ways to test how i'd use this functionality by using an a/d converter (i've got a Vert) and a logic module before i commit to a dedicated sequencer.

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