How many euro Sequencers is too many?

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:45 am

Mark II wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:35 pm


Tirana II (twice)
Same... I love this little sequencer.

I also have Verbos Sequence Selector but I don't often use it as a sequencer.

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by Afturmath » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:45 pm

My current lineup feels like too much sometimes, but it's incredibly flexible with mixed formats. These are in order of most- to least-used.
  1. Winter Modular Eloquencer + EME
    1. 8 gate + CV
    2. also works as stepped (low res) LFO
    3. fed by Ableton MIDI for clock + optional MIDI rec, control over internal parameters, and MIDI-to-CV, per-channel
  2. 13x CV Tools outputs from Ableton
    1. Ultra-flexible CV/gate/trig outputs from any soft source
  3. 1010 toolbox
    1. 8 gate + cv
    2. also works as FG/LFO or CV recorder/player on CV outs, optionally sequenced
    3. fed by Ableton MIDI for clock + optional MIDI rec
    4. Also serves as a mini-TRS-MIDI mult
  4. Moog Mother 32
    1. CV + gate + assignable CV
    2. fed by Ableton MIDI for clock + optional MIDI-to-gate/trig/CV(2)
    3. Assignable source for second CV includes velocity, MW, AT, seq divisions, MIDI CC
  5. Moog Subsequent 37 CV
    1. 2x gate/trig + 4x CV (duophonic)
    2. Fed by Ableton MIDI for clock + optional MIDI rec and paramater/preset control
    3. also works as MIDI-to-gate/trig(2) + CV(4)
    4. Programmable CV sources include arp and mod buses (digital LFOs and more)
  6. Novation Circuit Mono Station
    1. CV + gate + assignable CV
    2. Fed by Ableton MIDI (via mini-TRS via toolbox) for clock + optional MIDI rec and paramater/preset control
    3. Also works as MIDI-to-gate/CV(2)
    4. Assignable source for 2nd CV out includes dedicated sequencer, LFO, EG, velocity
  7. Intellijel 1uMIDI
    1. Fed by Ableton MIDI for MIDI-to-gate/trig/CV(3)
  8. 3x uO_c
    1. Euclidean sequences using Hemispheres Enigma Jr
    2. Mostly used for other, non-sequence functions
I'm planning to replace one O&C and the 1uMIDI with another toolbox.
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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by gcheliotis » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:56 pm

Tumulishroomaroom wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:45 am
Mark II wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:35 pm


Tirana II (twice)
Same... I love this little sequencer.

I also have Verbos Sequence Selector but I don't often use it as a sequencer.
Are you me? because I have 3 Tirana and contemplating a fourth one! And I finally got a Verbos SS to boot. At some point I realised that several smaller sequencers working together is more my cup of tea. And it opens up so many possibilities, while being perhaps somewhat limiting in other respects (integration in one big module has benefits).

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by Jefro » Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:00 am

I just got a Nerdseq not too long ago, and am finding that it’s the one sequencer to rule them all. There are several others in my rig of course.

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by Radomil » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:51 am

Mark II wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:35 pm
VCA’s ... nah. You can never have too many sequencers.

Tirana II (twice)
Octone
z8000
Circadian Rhythms

And if you are so inclined
Turing Machine with expanders
Mutable Grids

And, ok, not Euro
Beatstep Pro


I need another sequencer.
Looking at Tirana 2 and octone to go with my z8000. Do you prefer one over the other? Thanks!

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by bemushroomed » Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:06 pm

I have these for sequencing

FLXS1
Varigate 8+ and Voltage Block combo
Stepper Acid
Ornament and Crime
Marbles
Pam's New Workout
LP1lightplane
Squarp Pyramid (non euro though)

I can easily see myself getting at least one more ;) my favorite is FLXS1 of any sequencer i've used, perhaps apart from Pyramid..

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by Sookilala » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:34 pm

perfect number to own = x + 1
where x is your current number of sequencers

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by yellowecho » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:01 pm

miles_macquarrie wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:28 am
Sequencers are why i got into eurorack. I've had Metropolis twice and that was my first euro sequencer. I've had so many in the past few years.

Current sequencers.
Euro: Note, I don't have any "complex" eurorack sequencers, but I've tried quite a few of them. I've got a 42 hp Blank in my system and in the next 6 months, I will probably fill it with either the Erica Black Sequencer or Vector Sequencer.
NE Mimetic Sequent and Multum (Super underrated in my opinion)
NE Mimetic Digitalis
TT Z8000
Permutation

Non Euro:
Akai Force
Beatstep Pro
Keystep
Just Bought Ableton. We'll see how that goes!
What are the differences between the NE Mimetic Sequent+Multum vs. Permutation+Expander?
Mimetic Sequent seems similar to a turing machine (like Permutation) and Multum seems similar to the positive and negative expander for Permutation.

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by miles_macquarrie » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:53 am

There are a few differences. With the MS + M You only get 4 gate outputs, but..... You get 3 different CV outputs in 10 hp. It can record cv. It also has something that no other random looping generator has (that I know of). Reset! I don't have the permutation anymore, but the Mimetic Sequent/Multum aren't going anywhere.
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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:37 am

I used to have the Sequent/Multium, thiking of picking it up again. I'm super happy with the Verbos Multistage/Sequence Selector combo ad the fantastic little Tirana II. Some controlled semi-random would be welcome though.

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by yellowecho » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:34 pm

Tumulishroomaroom wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:37 am
I used to have the Sequent/Multium, thiking of picking it up again. I'm super happy with the Verbos Multistage/Sequence Selector combo ad the fantastic little Tirana II. Some controlled semi-random would be welcome though.
Are you using a quantizer with your Verbos sequencers? If so which one?
I have a Multistage and contemplating a SS but I feel like I could use some quantization.... maybe I could use the RS quantized random set to 1 but looking for options.

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:45 pm

No never... I just put the cv into the CV input of the CO with the attenuator barely open. Then again it's not like I'm doig tonal music.

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by Ema41 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:20 pm

I've got my 1st row of 168hp full of sequencers (a bit more than 168, in fact):
Rene2
0-ctrl (I've modded it to have it in the rack last WE: great replacement for brains + 2PP)
Permutation 18 + expander
micro temps utile and micro O&C with hemisphere
2 Polyend presets (well, I usually use it for... presets. but can be used as sequencer too).
MI grids
MI Marbles
2 MI Stages (but I mainly use them as envelops/ LFO)

out of the cases:
Analog keys (I've used octatrack a lot, but since AK have midi out for all tracks now, I switched to it for the keys). I wonder when Elektron will produce a eurorack sequencer with their p-locks/ Conditional trigs technology: Instant success, for sure...
Ableton Live to interact with or through AK. I can switch from AK to Ableton to complete arrangement.
Poly2 to convert midi from AK or Live to CV/gate/clocks (4 and 24 ppqn) and start/stop gate.
MFB urzwerg pro (but I use it with midi in as a kind of preset/ drum rack).

"I probably have too many, as I have never even come close to using all of them at once."
For me, using all and the same time is not the aim. I've got an acoustic piano, and when I play it, I rarely use its 88 keys at the same time. Same thing with any module, in fact. The problem is when you never/ rarely use them: then, it needs to go...

Other thing: I always "patch from scratch", but the wiring for midi/ CV clocks/ CV start/stop is fixed and never unpatched (well, it can be, if needed) to go quick.

"Modular is a super DAW", isn't it? ;)
... and sometimes, for free drones or live playing, a sequencer can be useless... even if you could pick 6 at once with your patch cables...

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by electricanada » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:55 pm

Ema41 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:20 pm
... and sometimes, for free drones or live playing, a sequencer can be useless..
Not if you can run it at audio rates. The A-155 can be used as a graphic VCO—perfect for drones.
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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by moremagic » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:57 am

electricanada wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:55 pm
Ema41 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:20 pm
... and sometimes, for free drones or live playing, a sequencer can be useless..
Not if you can run it at audio rates. The A-155 can be used as a graphic VCO—perfect for drones.
it can't be used as a graphic vco: its got rotaries, not sliders! ;)

i like playing without a proper sequencer inside the case, but i am eyeballin the a-152 a bunch lately. on paper it seems like it would do what i want even better than the a-155, since its got cv addressing built in. would just need an 8-channel mixer to sum the digital outs ,

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Re: How many euro Sequencers is too many?

Post by miles_macquarrie » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:41 am

Tumulishroomaroom wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:37 am
I used to have the Sequent/Multium, thiking of picking it up again. I'm super happy with the Verbos Multistage/Sequence Selector combo ad the fantastic little Tirana II. Some controlled semi-random would be welcome though.
I really like it. It also sits right next to a Mimetic Digitalis, which IMO, is such a great value in 10hp. Especially for atonal Techno. The shred function is a very cool feature.
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