
Expert Sleepers disting EX
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Re: Expert Sleepers disting EX
would be possible to get a oscilloscope mode? would be so so so handy , dont need to be complex , just visualizing waveform and telling some useful data would be more than enough
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Re: Expert Sleepers disting EX
I don't have the module in front of me to test this, but how well does the multisampler work with a home-brewed sample at one pitch? Like does it speed up/slow down the sample significantly as it's pitched up and down the keyboard?
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Yes. One octave up means double the speed, one octave down means half speed.
If you want to maintain the speed, the new Granulator mode might be what you want.
If you want to maintain the speed, the new Granulator mode might be what you want.
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Anyone making sliver/grey panels for the ex?
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Re: Expert Sleepers disting EX
Gotcha, that just makes me more hyped for the granulator! i'd imagine the best way to eventually do that will be to stick the sample in the granulator, record it's pitched/un time stretched output, and pop it back into the multisample?
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Zijnzijn Zijnzijn - A good way to go with this if you only have 1 sample is to pop it into Audition (which is free) and then do some pitch work on it, which maintains the correct speed at a re-pitch. It's pretty good, but can't obviously do the impossible. But it at least lets you play higher pitches without over-extending the Distings card read rate ability. Somewhere in the middle is a happy balance.
Another nice trick for your samples is to run them through Paul Stretch (also available in Audition). You can get some amazing textures and super long samples to use as one shots. Because they are messed up anyway, re-pitch is not an issue until you run out of bandwidth on the card read rate.
I spent (and continue to spend) a fair while editing samples, tuning them and getting sweet sounds. Now the final icing on the cake was running the Disting multi-sampler through the FX-Aid. Wow. Glorious.
Another nice trick for your samples is to run them through Paul Stretch (also available in Audition). You can get some amazing textures and super long samples to use as one shots. Because they are messed up anyway, re-pitch is not an issue until you run out of bandwidth on the card read rate.
I spent (and continue to spend) a fair while editing samples, tuning them and getting sweet sounds. Now the final icing on the cake was running the Disting multi-sampler through the FX-Aid. Wow. Glorious.
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Re: Expert Sleepers disting EX
Do you have a, like, normal amount you pitch it up/down before you pop it into the multisample? like do you just get a couple different octaves of the original sample and let the disting do it's magic for the semitones?maudibe wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:38 pmZijnzijn Zijnzijn - A good way to go with this if you only have 1 sample is to pop it into Audition (which is free) and then do some pitch work on it, which maintains the correct speed at a re-pitch. It's pretty good, but can't obviously do the impossible. But it at least lets you play higher pitches without over-extending the Distings card read rate ability. Somewhere in the middle is a happy balance.
Another nice trick for your samples is to run them through Paul Stretch (also available in Audition). You can get some amazing textures and super long samples to use as one shots. Because they are messed up anyway, re-pitch is not an issue until you run out of bandwidth on the card read rate.
I spent (and continue to spend) a fair while editing samples, tuning them and getting sweet sounds. Now the final icing on the cake was running the Disting multi-sampler through the FX-Aid. Wow. Glorious.
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I tend to try for 5 semitones or there about. Obviously, if you want super hi fidelity you would go for every semitone or every other. But I'm not too fussy if it sounds epic. 
It also depends on the sound itself - if you are using a long pad and are going to smear it in reverb (as I do) you can get away with murder. But if you wanted a beautifully sampled acoustic guitar, then you are going to want every semitone with round robins and velocity etc. Too much hassle for me to be fair, as that sort of thing I grab in the DAW box.

It also depends on the sound itself - if you are using a long pad and are going to smear it in reverb (as I do) you can get away with murder. But if you wanted a beautifully sampled acoustic guitar, then you are going to want every semitone with round robins and velocity etc. Too much hassle for me to be fair, as that sort of thing I grab in the DAW box.
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Just an interesting aside. I am an old git, and therefore come from the long range of Akai samplers... s900, s950, s1000 and s5000 (I gave that one away) LOL oh and before that an FZ1 that I also passed onto a budding creative...
So, back in the day, memory was short and the idea of vast multi-samples was really a non starter. How times have changed. But it is still sort of fun to work with that mindset - and certainly on the early samplers, time of sample was super short. I think it gave rise to 'that sound' of electronica of the day. Quite blippy and staccato. Synth pads filled in the space as required.
Apart from using long one shots, that back in the day I would probably just fired off a tape machine... I still like to work old school with the sampler. I enjoy it when the samples go 'out of range' and become different. Obviously you try and ovoid the chipmunks or Darth Vader... I suppose
But in a certain range, tones can mutate and become something otherworldly as the harmonics just get bent out of shape. This is more noticeable with previously 'natural sounds' and not so evident of course with synth type voices.
Mangle it. If it sounds good... it is.
So, back in the day, memory was short and the idea of vast multi-samples was really a non starter. How times have changed. But it is still sort of fun to work with that mindset - and certainly on the early samplers, time of sample was super short. I think it gave rise to 'that sound' of electronica of the day. Quite blippy and staccato. Synth pads filled in the space as required.
Apart from using long one shots, that back in the day I would probably just fired off a tape machine... I still like to work old school with the sampler. I enjoy it when the samples go 'out of range' and become different. Obviously you try and ovoid the chipmunks or Darth Vader... I suppose

Mangle it. If it sounds good... it is.
Re: Expert Sleepers disting EX
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Re: Expert Sleepers disting EX
Okay yeah the granulator is absolutely exactly what I was hoping to do with samples. Very exciting!
On a side note, I think I remember seeing folks say they've had issues with the ex saying there's no SD card half the time on boot up - did this issue get solved? Mine has been doing the same thing after changing cards from the one packed with it
On a side note, I think I remember seeing folks say they've had issues with the ex saying there's no SD card half the time on boot up - did this issue get solved? Mine has been doing the same thing after changing cards from the one packed with it
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Re: Expert Sleepers disting EX
Hellos Os
Thanks again for this amazing new update. The new granulator work so well.
I just have to report one bug.
The sd multisample his now unusable on my side.
I never had this issue before
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Here is the setup.
My midi keyboard into FH-2 USB linked with the Disting EX ( PCB cable 4pin)
And now when i use for exemple the preset piano 49 if you just do a stress test pressing just the same note alternatively in tempo at some point the sound start to lag with latency then stopping the sound , freezing then playing again and sometimes i have to restart the module cause general freeze.
I never had this problem on prévious others firmware.
Thanks in advance having a look on that.
Thanks again for this amazing new update. The new granulator work so well.
I just have to report one bug.
The sd multisample his now unusable on my side.
I never had this issue before
Here is the setup.
My midi keyboard into FH-2 USB linked with the Disting EX ( PCB cable 4pin)
And now when i use for exemple the preset piano 49 if you just do a stress test pressing just the same note alternatively in tempo at some point the sound start to lag with latency then stopping the sound , freezing then playing again and sometimes i have to restart the module cause general freeze.
I never had this problem on prévious others firmware.
Thanks in advance having a look on that.
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Re: Expert Sleepers disting EX
I believe I've run into this same problem on v1.6, haven't gotten around to checking on v1.7 yetBlond 12 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:52 amHellos Os
Thanks again for this amazing new update. The new granulator work so well.
I just have to report one bug.
The sd multisample his now unusable on my side.
I never had this issue before.
Here is the setup.
My midi keyboard into FH-2 USB linked with the Disting EX ( PCB cable 4pin)
And now when i use for exemple the preset piano 49 if you just do a stress test pressing just the same note alternatively in tempo at some point the sound start to lag with latency then stopping the sound , freezing then playing again and sometimes i have to restart the module cause general freeze.
I never had this problem on prévious others firmware.
Thanks in advance having a look on that.
Re: Expert Sleepers disting EX
Jesus, the multisampling and now the granulator - sweet! What's the general consensus on navigating the parameters on the EX? Is there a lot of diving involved, or is it rather intuitive?
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Daisuk - its deep, of course, to provide so many parameters and possibilities in so many modes. But once you have twiddled and tweaked it, saved the preset and how the cv mapping works, then it is a doddle
You can just call up your favourites at a couple of presses and a scroll on a button.
Also worth mentioning, in the wavetable synth / multisample sample type modes then a lot of the parameters are very similar, which lessens the learning curve somewhat. Once you are dancing around the paramenters you have it cracked! Now, I need to play with the granular, but looking at the demo it seems quite logical... and if you have ever played with Steinberg / Cubase Pad Shop Pro it will seem very familiar, most likely.

Also worth mentioning, in the wavetable synth / multisample sample type modes then a lot of the parameters are very similar, which lessens the learning curve somewhat. Once you are dancing around the paramenters you have it cracked! Now, I need to play with the granular, but looking at the demo it seems quite logical... and if you have ever played with Steinberg / Cubase Pad Shop Pro it will seem very familiar, most likely.
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maudibe wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:37 pmDaisuk - its deep, of course, to provide so many parameters and possibilities in so many modes. But once you have twiddled and tweaked it, saved the preset and how the cv mapping works, then it is a doddleYou can just call up your favourites at a couple of presses and a scroll on a button.
Also worth mentioning, in the wavetable synth / multisample sample type modes then a lot of the parameters are very similar, which lessens the learning curve somewhat. Once you are dancing around the paramenters you have it cracked! Now, I need to play with the granular, but looking at the demo it seems quite logical... and if you have ever played with Steinberg / Cubase Pad Shop Pro it will seem very familiar, most likely.
Cool, thanks for the feedback.

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Re: Expert Sleepers disting EX
I've posted a set of 50 presets for the Poly Wavetable algorithm (by Wiggler @LDT).
Audio demo:
https://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/distingEXcontent.html
Audio demo:
https://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/distingEXcontent.html
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os - Epic! Thank you so much ... having lots of fun making my own, but this bunch of presets is fab, and a great springboard for further wiggling 

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Regarding the new Granulator mode, I found that it can...