If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

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If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by esmeets » Sat May 23, 2020 7:48 am

Hi,

Considering a large range of oscillators, not totally sure what I'm looking for, but I'd love to hear your recommendations as a starting place to browse.
It's for a small eurorack system and I only have room for 1 OSC. right now I have a Noise Engineering Cursus Iteritas but I'm looking for something that offers even more variety in sound (wavetables?)

My budget for a new module is max $400 and I've got 18hp of space available.

Thanks
Also, what do you think about these 2 options?
- Joranalogue Audio Design Generate 3
- Steady State Fate ZPO Zero Point Oscillator


This is my current rack:
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Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by mritenburg » Sat May 23, 2020 7:50 am

Mutable Plaits, maybe a clone that fits your space.
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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by 3hands » Sat May 23, 2020 7:53 am

Have a look at the Neutron sound Orgone Accumulator. It’s an incredible wave table osc and it tends to get used a lot in my patches.
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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by mdoudoroff » Sat May 23, 2020 8:02 am

Plaits or uBraids makes an awful lot of sense within the parameters you’ve set. Either should pair well with that Mimetic Digitalis for modulation.
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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by Kattefjaes » Sat May 23, 2020 8:03 am

Antumbra Knit (or other uPlaits) is a pretty good way to spend 6HP- a complete "voice" with its own LPGish behaviour etc.. If you don't have space for giant, complex oscillators, it'll give you some good stuff to play with anyway.

Edit, ack, the post directly above me says that too. I need to l2read. Still, point stands, assuming you like what it does. It packs a lot of options into a small space, which is great for a small system. Lots of modulation possibilities too.

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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by lisa » Sat May 23, 2020 8:08 am

I agree with everyone else; Plaits make a lot of sense in a small system. Many great sounding algorithms, internal VCA/LPG, internal decay envelope.
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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by Hovercraft » Sat May 23, 2020 8:37 am

4MS Ensemble Oscillator—-hard to best for a wide range of sounds. Have Plaits and used to have an Orgone Accumulator—both fine oscillators, but Ensemble is incredible. Plaits has a bunch of discrete modes, that abruptly transition when switched—-Ensemble is mostly modeless—and that makes it super playable. Plus, it’s a poly complex osc with quantization when you need it.

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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by lisa » Sat May 23, 2020 8:48 am

The 4MS Ensemble Oscillator just came out. It hasn’t been used by anyone for very long. I’m sure it’s great but we’ll see what people say when the new shiny thing-period is over in, like, six months.

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Post by tommygee » Sat May 23, 2020 10:29 am

WMD/SSF Spectrum as a analog contrast to your Cursus ? The Spectrums is small, awesome sounding with a lot of features packed into its small hp. Many waveforms, sub output, octave shifter, linear/eksponential FM - and it tracks great.

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Post by mritenburg » Sat May 23, 2020 10:40 am

esmeets wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 7:48 am
My budget for a new module is max $400 and I've got 18hp of space available.
There is a factory Plaits in BST right now for $190 USD.

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Post by starthief » Sat May 23, 2020 10:53 am

My personal preference for a small system would probably lead me toward Orgone Accumulator or Hertz Donut mk2, but I wouldn't be unhappy with Plaits :)

Or you could pair a smaller oscillator such as Sinc Iter, Dixie, Ts-L, etc. with a Warps, for quite a bit of sonic variety

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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by mosorensen » Sat May 23, 2020 10:55 am

Like most people above, Plaits hands down.

One of my favorites is to send repeated modulation into the "model" input of Plaits (Mimetic Digitalis is ideal for this), slowly modulate the other parameters, and send the output from Plaits into a clocked delay. This produces an enormous amount of sound :)
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Post by brandonlogic » Sat May 23, 2020 10:58 am

Plaits for the win, it’s a great vco with a huge sound pallet, and sounds really good.

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Post by esmeets » Sat May 23, 2020 5:44 pm

thanks so far!

I've only got 18hp of space available (23hp if i remove 1 Clep Diaz, since I have 2)
AND I only have power for 1 (or 2 modules if i remove CD)..

- Neutron sound Orgone Accumulator = 20hp
- Mutable Instruments Plaits = 12hp
- uPlaits = 6hp
- 4ms Ensemble Oscillator = 16hp
- WMD Spectrum = 10hp

..and hat do you think about this one?
- Steady State Fate ZPO Zero Point Oscillator = 16hp

Maybe I can replace 1 CD with an other module. for example 1 OSC and 1 utility or fx module 8-)
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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by Buttons ARE toys » Sat May 23, 2020 5:53 pm

Pittsburgh Modular's Lifeforms Primary Oscillator has a ton of range and sounds great. The wavefolder on it is nice and rubbery sounding, and the downsampler output can do some cool tonal stuff when you sequence it.
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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by Chopper » Sat May 23, 2020 5:58 pm

Klavis twin wave, of course...

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Post by greyscales » Sat May 23, 2020 6:02 pm

I think Plaits makes a lot of sense in a small system. It can make lots of “prettier” sounds than I usually hear from Noise Engineering so that could be a good combo.

Just Friends could also be fun as an oscillator although it can always do other functions if you don’t need it as a voice in a patch.

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Post by ATW » Sat May 23, 2020 6:05 pm

uPlaits, for sure. I have a Tall Dog version I enjoy, good layout, solid build, 8hp is about as small as I’d want to go.

Klavis Twin Waves would be a good choice, too depending on your musical goals

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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by esmeets » Sat May 23, 2020 6:15 pm

Thanks
Also, what do you think about these 2 options?
- Joranalogue Audio Design Generate 3
- Steady State Fate ZPO Zero Point Oscillator

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Post by sir stony » Sat May 23, 2020 6:35 pm

+1 for the Twin Waves.
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Post by Keltie » Sat May 23, 2020 7:02 pm

Don’t forget that you could fill the gap with passives, and not have any power worries. Doepfer switch mult or maybe a passive lpg would be my thought there.

+1 plaits btw, or twin waves. Can’t go wrong with either I think.

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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by MindMachine » Sat May 23, 2020 7:18 pm

If I had 18HP I would get a few different VCO's. I think the WMD/SSF Spectrum mentioned would be a good one and add a 2HP Sine VCO, a 2HP Pluck and then you have some more HP left for a mixer and or dual VCA.
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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by Pighood » Sat May 23, 2020 7:24 pm

esmeets wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 6:15 pm
Thanks
Also, what do you think about these 2 options?
- Joranalogue Audio Design Generate 3
- Steady State Fate ZPO Zero Point Oscillator
SSF one is sexy AF :love:
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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by Richard deHove » Sat May 23, 2020 7:29 pm

Call me a heretic but I never felt any inspiration or excitement from Plaits. I much prefer the Joranalogue 3 as a wilder choice. Perhaps add a 2hp vco v2 to that, or even a Disting Mk4 for extra sample-based interest.

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Re: If you had to pick one OSC for a small system. Which one would that be?

Post by deke » Sat May 23, 2020 9:19 pm

Richard deHove wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 7:29 pm
Call me a heretic but I never felt any inspiration or excitement from Plaits. I much prefer the Joranalogue 3 as a wilder choice. Perhaps add a 2hp vco v2 to that, or even a Disting Mk4 for extra sample-based interest.
Not to hijack but I have a Plaitts and it hasn’t quite fulfilled my particular interest or enjoyment. It’s hard to say that while I have had a lot of success modulating it in many ways, it feels like something of a black box. The Joranalogue looks like a much more creative option so thanks!

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