DivKid RND STEP
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How have y’all been liking RND Step? How does it compare to other S&H modules? (or modules with S&H ie Wogglebug or Nano Rand)
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SecondedB0bcat wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:53 amPetition to move parts of this thread into a new one entitled “Instruo Trading cards” or similar — it would make it more obvious that Ben is not involved in every single one of these teased projects and avoid shading the different parties in these various collaborations
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I received a teaser card for a 4hp "cascading logic" unit called eãs.
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Has anyone heard any word on when these are going to be available again stateside?
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Another production run is coming around shortly. Really didn't expect them to sell out so fast...
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I’m just starting to use mine and those half-rectified outputs are a simple stroke of genius. I also wanted to complement you on the fit and finish: the entire module from face plate to PCBs is quite elegant.
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They seem to be in stock at Patchwerks.
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Nice. Thanks for the heads up. Just ordered from there (and actually, hadn't even heard of this shop before--a nice discovery in its own right!).
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@analogpedagog - Just wanted to say congrats on this module
I remember looking up S&H's last year and discovering the common issue with hysteresis (which I am assuming is the same as "droop") - so what you accomplished here seems like quite an impressive feat. Haven't tried the module yet, but I keep thinking of new ways it would be useful or interesting to patch... seems like a 'must have' utility if rnd/noise isn't covered in a rack already.

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I plan to get both.SavageMessiah wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:19 pmNow I'm torn between this or ADDAC 215 to add some more S&H to my system. Not going to get either right now - I've spent way too much lately.
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@analogpedagog: are there any plans to release a version of this with a silver faceplate? (I'm trying to decide if I should buy one now, or wait.)
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I know, I know, it is what it is. But I can’t help wishing there was an adjustable slew, even on just one channel.
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Thank you, was a bit of a challenge but in the end it just fit.mdoudoroff wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:43 amI’m just starting to use mine and those half-rectified outputs are a simple stroke of genius. I also wanted to complement you on the fit and finish: the entire module from face plate to PCBs is quite elegant.
And yeah I really liked the idea of the half rectified outputs. Its nice to include your default setting in a random patch and kills another bird by polarizing the output.
Thanks much. Designing an analog S&H is full of trade-offs in certain aspects of performance. There are always better ways and room for improvement but overall Ben and i are really happy with the all-round result given the very limited space to fit it all. Not to mention along with six high gain noise generators waiting to infect the circuitry...vnsc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:01 am@analogpedagog - Just wanted to say congrats on this moduleI remember looking up S&H's last year and discovering the common issue with hysteresis (which I am assuming is the same as "droop") - so what you accomplished here seems like quite an impressive feat. Haven't tried the module yet, but I keep thinking of new ways it would be useful or interesting to patch... seems like a 'must have' utility if rnd/noise isn't covered in a rack already.
I don't have plans to make a silver metal version. I do miss the metal panels but the FR4 panels have just been more economical for my tiny business and they are much quicker turnover to produce vs the metal.
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It's a great module. Previously I had the 2hp S+H and didn't expect it to be so inaccurate (most noticeable with CV intended for pitch). So this is a great replacement with very little droop.
One thing RND Step has in common with the 2hp module is that it's deep (45mm). I wasn't expecting that. It won't fit into the bottom left side of my 7U Intellijel case and I struggled to get it to fit in the bottom right side too - I had to remove another module's cable that was plugged in below. But it does fit - just.
One thing RND Step has in common with the 2hp module is that it's deep (45mm). I wasn't expecting that. It won't fit into the bottom left side of my 7U Intellijel case and I struggled to get it to fit in the bottom right side too - I had to remove another module's cable that was plugged in below. But it does fit - just.
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I've only had RND STEP for 2 days, but I can't get over how good it is, and in such a small footprint. I've loved my URA, but I think this might nearly eclipse it.
Using RND STEP and Ochd, it makes me really that think the next Divkid collab should be an offset/attenuator to go with them. I love the ALMt O/A/x2, but I feel like there should be a dedicated module for directing these two amazing sources of modulation.
Using RND STEP and Ochd, it makes me really that think the next Divkid collab should be an offset/attenuator to go with them. I love the ALMt O/A/x2, but I feel like there should be a dedicated module for directing these two amazing sources of modulation.
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Does anyone else feel the 2.5v pink noise source just doesn't offer enough range? Seems it would have been wise to make it at LEAST 5v or even 8v. Many of the parameters i want to modulate on other modules just dont get anywhere even with the rndstep full blast into their cv inputs ..
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Have you measured and confirmed that you are even getting the 2.5v range? There was a user on FB who was getting much less than expected voltage and it turned out their module needed calibration. SSF helped them out with instructions.
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I checked mine on the Mordax Data's voltage monitor.
The bipolar seems to range from -3V/3V. The unipolar seems to be 0/3V. The manual says it should be -5V/5V and 0V/5V.
I'd be curious to see the calibration instructions if you have a link.
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Probably best to contact SSF. If I can find the FB post I’ll let you know.
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Yes, some users are reporting lower output. This can be adjusted via the trimmers on the pcb.closedLoop wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:59 amI checked mine on the Mordax Data's voltage monitor.
The bipolar seems to range from -3V/3V. The unipolar seems to be 0/3V. The manual says it should be -5V/5V and 0V/5V.
I'd be curious to see the calibration instructions if you have a link.
As always, I advise to be careful when turning the trimpots.
You will see 6 trimmers labeled BPA, PA, BPB, PB, BPC, PC.
BP is the bipolar output and P is polar. A, B, C are the top to bottom outputs.
Please try and turn them up carefully to your taste. Do not try and force them beyond the point where they stop.
The best way to see where the peak noise level is, is to apply a 20kHz trigger and monitor the output on data or another scope.
I may have been a bit conservative when initially calibrating and while they did peak at the stated levels, the chances of hitting those levels is greatly reduced when using slower trigger speeds.
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Thanks for that! I'll try and adjust mine. For my uses, I actually generally find I attenuate Rnd Step's output down.analogPedagog wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:36 am
Yes, some users are reporting lower output. This can be adjusted via the trimmers on the pcb.
As always, I advise to be careful when turning the trimpots.
Would adjusting Rnd Step's output so that it is closer to the 'full' output change the random distribution? Would it make it more or less even?
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Making it louder will keep the even-ness of the distribution but the range will be a bit wider and may include some levels beyond +/-5V at times.closedLoop wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:13 pmThanks for that! I'll try and adjust mine. For my uses, I actually generally find I attenuate Rnd Step's output down.analogPedagog wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:36 am
Yes, some users are reporting lower output. This can be adjusted via the trimmers on the pcb.
As always, I advise to be careful when turning the trimpots.
Would adjusting Rnd Step's output so that it is closer to the 'full' output change the random distribution? Would it make it more or less even?
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Wow, under the scope none of my outputs have a range above 1.2v with the trimmers at ANY position ... i must have gotten a defective unit. No wonder its modulation was useless in practice. How can i go about getting a replacement?analogPedagog wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:36 amYes, some users are reporting lower output. This can be adjusted via the trimmers on the pcb.closedLoop wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:59 amI checked mine on the Mordax Data's voltage monitor.
The bipolar seems to range from -3V/3V. The unipolar seems to be 0/3V. The manual says it should be -5V/5V and 0V/5V.
I'd be curious to see the calibration instructions if you have a link.
As always, I advise to be careful when turning the trimpots.
You will see 6 trimmers labeled BPA, PA, BPB, PB, BPC, PC.
BP is the bipolar output and P is polar. A, B, C are the top to bottom outputs.
Please try and turn them up carefully to your taste. Do not try and force them beyond the point where they stop.
The best way to see where the peak noise level is, is to apply a 20kHz trigger and monitor the output on data or another scope.
I may have been a bit conservative when initially calibrating and while they did peak at the stated levels, the chances of hitting those levels is greatly reduced when using slower trigger speeds.
If anyone has any issues, please just contact me and I will take care of it 100%.
Apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused.
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