New intellijel wavefolder/crossfader: bifold

[hawkfuzz]

Do we know when this will be up for preorder at the other dealers?

No. Most companies have stopped with release dates and just gone with saying “soon” since things aren’t moving in a normal fashion.

I just waited nearly two months for something from Portugal. It’s not exactly the best time to give dates when people react so poorly to them changing. Smaller uMidi is on the way and they didn’t give a date because they can’t. I’m sad about it.

[scottmfr]

The Bifold web page is up now with a couple new demo videos. One with a scope to show those waves being folded...

https://intellijel.com/shop/eurorack/bifold/

[megarat]

The Bifold web page is up now with a couple new demo videos. One with a scope to show those waves being folded...

https://intellijel.com/shop/eurorack/bifold/

Nice, and the manual is up as well. Thanks for the update, I’m looking forward to its release.

[mattdennewitz]

looking forward to more, really sounds great - especially the crossfading between two sources.

[exper]

So psyched to get this. So much functionality and sounds amazing.

[megarat]

The Bifold web page is up now with a couple new demo videos. One with a scope to show those waves being folded...

https://intellijel.com/shop/eurorack/bifold/

Out of curiosity, are the wavefolding circuits analogue or digital? I don’t see any mention of this on the web page or in the manual.

[intellijel]

Out of curiosity, are the wavefolding circuits analogue or digital? I don’t see any mention of this on the web page or in the manual.

100% Analog / Analogue

[zerodivide]

The Bifold web page is up now with a couple new demo videos. One with a scope to show those waves being folded...

https://intellijel.com/shop/eurorack/bifold/

Out of curiosity, are the wavefolding circuits analogue or digital? I don’t see any mention of this on the web page or in the manual.

literally signed in to ask this same question!

[silkynight]

Also new umidi spotted in said video.

[megarat]

Also new umidi spotted in said video.

That’s another module I’m excited about. I already have a passive LPG ready to fill the empty space from my old uMIDI 1u.

[MikeLeeBirds]

I wanted the Bifold as soon as I saw it, but now Joranalogue is releasing a very sweet wavefolder in 4hp!


https://joranalogue.com/products/fold-6

At 1 hour 24 minutes into this stream from last weekend‘s Dutch Modular Fest you‘ll find an Interview with Joran where he demonstrates the new Fold 6.

[brandonlogic]

I wanted the Bifold as soon as I saw it, but now Joranalogue is releasing a very sweet wavefolder in 4hp!

Look cool but Bifold's features look much more appealing to me. Having both buchla and serge style folders in one module (both which i love), the crossfader, and the feedback routing. Joranalogue would be cool if you needed a folder in less hp but otherwise i think Bifold is where its at (for me personally).
been checkin my perfect circuit (go to store) every day to see if it up yet.

[autopoiesis]

I wanted the Bifold as soon as I saw it, but now Joranalogue is releasing a very sweet wavefolder in 4hp!

Look cool but Bifold's features look much more appealing to me. Having both buchla and serge style folders in one module (both which i love), the crossfader, and the feedback routing. Joranalogue would be cool if you needed a folder in less hp but otherwise i think Bifold is where its at (for me personally).

I feel like we're getting off topic here but for what it's worth the Joranaogue module is also offering both the Buchla (parallel) and Serge (serial) flavors on separate outputs. that is the funny coincidence in these two releases.

[brandonlogic]

I feel like we're getting off topic here but for what it's worth the Joranaogue module is also offering both the Buchla (parallel) and Serge (serial) flavors on separate outputs. that is the funny coincidence in these two releases.

OH! That is interesting! Yeah, some pretty direct competition! i'm still going for the bifold.

[megarat]

As am I. The Fold 6 looks like a nice, tidy utility wavefolder, but the Bifold's routing, mixing and feedback options turn it into a "wavefolding laboratory", which I find highly appealing. I can get blissfully lost in the space created by a pair of VCOs and a ring modulator, so this is right up my alley. I even have a space for it carved out right next to my uMod II. I think they'll make excellent neighbors.

[naturligfunktion]

Im very exited for this one. Naturally it seem to work wonders with the Rubicon and Dixie, but I imagine that it would make a great compliment to other VCOs as well

[brandonlogic]

Im very exited for this one. Naturally it seem to work wonders with the Rubicon and Dixie, but I imagine that it would make a great compliment to other VCOs as well

Anything with a sine or triangle output

[naturligfunktion]

Im very exited for this one. Naturally it seem to work wonders with the Rubicon and Dixie, but I imagine that it would make a great compliment to other VCOs as well

Anything with a sine or triangle output

Why not go crazy and take a square

[brandonlogic]

Im very exited for this one. Naturally it seem to work wonders with the Rubicon and Dixie, but I imagine that it would make a great compliment to other VCOs as well

Anything with a sine or triangle output

Why not go crazy and take a square

Haha Sure, but tri/square are just essential imo.

[Rex Coil 7]

Im very exited for this one. Naturally it seem to work wonders with the Rubicon and Dixie, but I imagine that it would make a great compliment to other VCOs as well.

Anything with a sine or triangle output

~squint~ mmm ... not really. I've found that some oscillators don't take well to folding ... depends on the folder .. depends on the VCO .. and depends on the users' expectations. Well, let me put it this way .. different VCOs can/will sound different from one another when folded. Whether that difference is good or bad is up to the user. Some respond very positively, some do not.

Why not go crazy and take a square

Well, that won't "go crazy" in fact it will produce less dramatic results compared with using a simpler/less complex waveform going in. It may not make much a difference at all since a square wave is already filling up all of the upper harmonics ... folding it seems as though all it would do would be to actually remove some harmonics. Then again, at some point wavefolding can just become distortion and lose all of the foldy goodness that was surrendered to harmonic distortion (maybe not on a scope, but that's what comes out of the speakers).

I'm guessing you guys already know all of this ... but less experienced readers may not.

[brandonlogic]

Anything with a sine or triangle output

~squint~ mmm ... not really. I've found that some oscillators don't take well to folding ... depends on the folder .. depends on the VCO .. and depends on the users' expectations. Well, let me put it this way .. different VCOs can/will sound different from one another when folded. Whether that difference is good or bad is up to the user. Some respond very positively, some do not.

maybe so, but in my experience, I've never had a sine wave from a particular oscillator not sound good with a specific wave folder in eurorack, which is way i said pretty much anything with sine or triangle output would benefit and likely work well with it. sure they can sound different depending on the purity of sine. the only things that's come up for me is when an oscillator might have a quieter or louder output (voltage range) than the folder is expecting, witch can easily be addressed with some utilities.
this could be true with some things i guess though, i have not tried every single osc and wave folder out there...

Why not go crazy and take a square

fyi that was naturligfunktion's quote not mine, and i assume they were joking.
thanks for clearing it up for people that need clearing it up though

[naturligfunktion]

*amazing knowledge regarding wavefolding*

I'm guessing you guys already know all of this ... but less experienced readers may not.

Actually, I dont

My only experience with wavefolding is with one complex oscillator (and as it turns out, the pot for the symmetry knob needs replacement ). With that in mind, I find wavefolding super interesting. The sounds are really something else

[Chaos215bar2]

Why not go crazy and take a square

Well, that won't "go crazy" in fact it will produce less dramatic results compared with using a simpler/less complex waveform going in. It may not make much a difference at all since a square wave is already filling up all of the upper harmonics ... folding it seems as though all it would do would be to actually remove some harmonics. Then again, at some point wavefolding can just become distortion and lose all of the foldy goodness that was surrendered to harmonic distortion (maybe not on a scope, but that's what comes out of the speakers).

Applying "perfect" wavefolding to a "perfect" square will just periodically attenuate, invert, attenuate, invert, etc. the signal, as many times as you have folding stages. The instantaneous transitions can't really be folded.

Reality will be a little more interesting, but not necessarily much. You'll mostly just get a an additional "wiggle" in the transitions for each folding stage.

[starthief]

A square through a filter and then into a wavefolder can sound pretty rad though.

Also, with some wavefolders you can run a square in and get a square out... but as the fold amount changes, it kind of flips phase and does some interesting things under modulation (whether slow or audio rate).

[Estes]

Reminds me of the Bastl Timber, that came out not long ago?