Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

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Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by ritec » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:53 pm

Let’s talk eurorack compressors, do you use one, if so how do you use it. Which one is your favorite if you have tried a couple? Do they produce a significant positive change in your final audio?

As many of you I am always looking for the best possible sound from my Eurorack rig, especially when doing live jams and performances. I have yet to use a built in Eurorack compressor and was wondering what everyone’s thought were about them. I usually make techno and could certainly benefit from a bit of sidechain between my kicks and my subs.

I guess there are quite a few options out there now, 2HP just came out with a compressor with built in side chain but have not heard much about it. WMD also has 2 models, the MSCL and the bigger “Compressor”, then there is the L1 compressor etc etc. So could you do without them if you use them, or is it something you must have that has forever changed your sound for the better?

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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by AMillionMonkeys » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:05 pm

I have a Jellysquasher that I use on my drums. I usually feed the output into the side chain input to use the side chain filter in standalone mode as a LPF on my post-compressor drum bus.

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Post by starthief » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:08 pm

I don't really do beat-driven stuff, but I like MSCL. I feel like it's really good inside feedback loops or in front of modules that can be sensitive to clipping, to get a nice level going in without a mess. Also just as a general "more oomph" module, which is nice when gear tends toward quieter outputs (like ENOSC sometimes). And for the occasional sidechaining.

In software I use DDMF MagicDeathEye and Supercharger GT pretty frequently. I still feel like it's good to have at least one little compressor in Euro though.

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Post by Zymos » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:21 pm

I mix down my drums to 2 channels and put them through MSCL.
maybe you’d like to buy some nice used modules? Free cables with purchase!!

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Post by tuj » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:58 pm

I run a MSCL in limiter mode at the insert of my mixer as the last thing in my chain.

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Post by Chopper » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:24 pm

Mutable Instruments STREAMS.

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Post by tuj » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:02 pm

Personally I thought streams was a horrible compressor.

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Post by DSC » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:17 pm

I has compresswitch. I put that $h!tz on everything, and thanks to the Pitts switch, I can take it right off. Sanks :tu:
Dual mono, or stereo. 'End of chain' goes off da' chain :yay:

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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by ritec » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:39 pm

DSC wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:17 pm
I has compresswitch. I put that $h!tz on everything, and thanks to the Pitts switch, I can take it right off. Sanks :tu:
Dual mono, or stereo. 'End of chain' goes off da' chain :yay:

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Wowowow I had no idea :woah: this existed. :eek: Looks killer!
Researching now.

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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by ritec » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:42 pm

Oh wow it is a custom made device! VERY cool.

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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by globalwm » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:05 pm

Any thoughts on the Waldorf CMP1 (or pair of them)?

From the manual: The Waldorf cmp1 implements a fully featured analogue compressor with specific CV controls for use in a modular context. The analogue compressor engine is VCA-based using the same components you find otherwise in high-end analogue compressors. Additional features like the output of the detection signal, CV control of compressor ratio and threshold, and the external level input makes the cmp1 a flexible work-horse...

https://waldorfmusic.weclapp.com/webap ... home.page

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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by ritec » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:18 pm

globalwm wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:05 pm
Any thoughts on the Waldorf CMP1 (or pair of them)?

From the manual: The Waldorf cmp1 implements a fully featured analogue compressor with specific CV controls for use in a modular context. The analogue compressor engine is VCA-based using the same components you find otherwise in high-end analogue compressors. Additional features like the output of the detection signal, CV control of compressor ratio and threshold, and the external level input makes the cmp1 a flexible work-horse...

https://waldorfmusic.weclapp.com/webap ... home.page
Haven’t heard much about this one, specs and cv modulation options look great but it is quite hefty at 20HP. I would struggle to put this on a live case.

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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by cinnatoastg » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:41 am

I love my lollipop, I generally run my drums through it. It sounds great when you slam the input gain and really get it pumping. For sidechaining I prefer using a bipolar VCA and an envelope. I feel like I have more control that way.

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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by adg672 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:01 am

If it’s end-of-chain and doesn’t need any CV control, not euro but the OTO Boum is perfect for this. 1/8” SC input too. Really configurable compression, low/hi cut filters, distortion, noise gate, perfect for going straight into a mixer/club system. Sounds great and doesn’t take up any rack space.

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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by globalwm » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:04 pm

ritec wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:18 pm
Haven’t heard much about this one, specs and cv modulation options look great but it is quite hefty at 20HP. I would struggle to put this on a live case.
Then the 4hp WMD (stereo) might suit you:

https://wmdevices.com/collections/euror ... ducts/mscl

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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by ritec » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:54 pm

globalwm wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:04 pm
ritec wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:18 pm
Haven’t heard much about this one, specs and cv modulation options look great but it is quite hefty at 20HP. I would struggle to put this on a live case.
Then the 4hp WMD (stereo) might suit you:

https://wmdevices.com/collections/euror ... ducts/mscl

?
Yes, After watching Nasty Nachos video on the MSCL I decided to go with it.

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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by Funky40 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:28 pm

the MSCL has been mentioned allover the thread btw.


a question: whats the "limiter" setting on the mscl ? ....second switch, which setting ?
i don´t get it from the manual ( no time for a 20min video)


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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by Zymos » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:17 pm

All 3 settings. From their site:

“ Limit Switch: Limits the comp knob's makeup gain. Makes the MSCL operate more as a peak limiter.

Three selections: Inf, 9dB, 3dB”
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Re: Eurorack compressors as end of chain devices

Post by Funky40 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:29 pm

Zymos wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:17 pm
All 3 settings. From their site:

“ Limit Switch: Limits the comp knob's makeup gain. Makes the MSCL operate more as a peak limiter.

Three selections: Inf, 9dB, 3dB”
yeah, i just read that bevore i was posting ;)
but: i don´t understand it !
....ahhh wait, i begin to understand as i write here,.......but not the "inf" setting.

the switch to the right means less make up gain or more ?....and "inf" means "infinite" makeup gain ?
( no access to my modular right now)
( i usually just make music, ...and watch the red LED and decide from there, but i don´t know "technically" what i´m doing with the MSCL ( otherwise well at home with using comps .......but i´m used to use Comps "creativly"......i jamm them (19") like it was a module)

haha......, and thanks, some help welcome !


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