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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Glydez » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:11 pm

Have been looking for a new filter to sit with my Matriarch (already with an amazing stereo filter), now this has been added to the consideration list... Had been quite decided with QPas till now. Hmm...

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by MossGarden » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:33 pm

cat_abyss wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:17 pm
Maybe it's too early for this question, but i'm curious as to what happens to the signal when the dial is set halfway between serial and parallel processing...?
75% input to A, 25% to B ... 50% of A into B as well ... output mix of 75% A + 25% B ?
It’s likely the input signal is sent through all states equally, what you do with the knob is crossfade between their outputs rather than affecting what’s hitting each filter type.

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by cat_abyss » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:44 pm

MossGarden wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:33 pm
cat_abyss wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:17 pm
Maybe it's too early for this question, but i'm curious as to what happens to the signal when the dial is set halfway between serial and parallel processing...?
75% input to A, 25% to B ... 50% of A into B as well ... output mix of 75% A + 25% B ?
It’s likely the input signal is sent through all states equally, what you do with the knob is crossfade between their outputs rather than affecting what’s hitting each filter type.
But wouldn't that mean it does serial and parallel simultaneously, under the hood? Which would require two instances of the B filter... (only filtering the original input when parallel, only filtering A output when in series...)

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by ima_jrk » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:53 pm

Glydez wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:11 pm
Have been looking for a new filter to sit with my Matriarch (already with an amazing stereo filter), now this has been added to the consideration list... Had been quite decided with QPas till now. Hmm...
This makes me wonder if the inputs are normaled to one another. The mixer output from the Matriarch is mono, so I wonder if you can patch in to the left input and then get two different filtered outputs.

Mine will be here tomorrow, so I will hopefully be able to report back!

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Glydez » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:17 pm

ima_jrk wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:53 pm
Glydez wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:11 pm
Have been looking for a new filter to sit with my Matriarch (already with an amazing stereo filter), now this has been added to the consideration list... Had been quite decided with QPas till now. Hmm...
This makes me wonder if the inputs are normaled to one another. The mixer output from the Matriarch is mono, so I wonder if you can patch in to the left input and then get two different filtered outputs.

Mine will be here tomorrow, so I will hopefully be able to report back!
That's true actually. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts of Blades as a companion to Matriarch!

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Quiet Wilds » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:19 pm

Has anybody made a 4HP version with tiny knobs you have to use needle nose pliers to turn yet

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by muleskinner » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:24 pm

Funny - there was a thread on here a few days ago about emulating a Sherman Filterbank with Euro modules. The design of this is pretty similar to a Sherman in a number of respects.

Doubt it sounds anything like one though, MI modules do tend to be rather 'polite'.
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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Orange » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:32 pm

Quiet Wilds wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:19 pm
Has anybody made a 4HP version with tiny knobs you have to use needle nose pliers to turn yet
What about a dual Blades in 20 hp crowded with ‘normal’ knobs?
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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Stab Frenzy » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:35 pm

deftinwulf wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:23 am
Stab Frenzy wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:33 pm
Dual mono isn’t stereo. The signals are compatible but the way the device operates is different between dual mono devices and stereo devices. Dual mono gives you two completely seperate sets of controls that need to be matched by hand to get the same results, for example it’s very hard to dynamically manipulate the two sets of controls on a dual mono device to keep the stereo image if you’re running a stereo signal through.

Stereo devices let you treat a stereo signal as a single entity, and more advanced ones let you manipulate the stereo image within them. The key to understanding the difference between stereo and dual mono is understanding a stereo signal is one signal travelling down two cables. :tu:
This is actually a very interesting point. Linked controls do make stereo a different beast than "dual mono". Genuinely not trying to "gotcha!" here, as I only just watched the DivKid demo video, but it would appear that the "Shift" button on Blades actually does link the filter cutoff into stereo operation with offset control, which is pretty cool. So I guess Blades is kinda stereo when it wants to be? :hmm:
There are a lot more controls on there than just cutoff. :tu:

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by jgoney » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:37 pm

Quiet Wilds wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:19 pm
Has anybody made a 4HP version with tiny knobs you have to use needle nose pliers to turn yet
Yeah, really....and it's going to have some stupid-ass name like "Cutzz" or something :roll:

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by tehyar » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:31 pm

Here I am buying my filters in pairs like a sucker

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by atrostor » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:38 pm

Seeing the conceptual leap from Clouds to Typhoon, it will probably be something like Machetes.
jgoney wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:37 pm
Quiet Wilds wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:19 pm
Has anybody made a 4HP version with tiny knobs you have to use needle nose pliers to turn yet
Yeah, really....and it's going to have some stupid-ass name like "Cutzz" or something :roll:

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Faastwalker » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:11 pm

It's going to eat up a lot of valuable HP in my rapidly filling Mantis case ........... I guess there's always a bigger case :D

Very cool module, impressive features and great to see a new Mutable Module ;)

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Buyakasoundman » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:21 pm

atrostor wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:38 pm
Seeing the conceptual leap from Clouds to Typhoon, it will probably be something like Machetes.
jgoney wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:37 pm
Quiet Wilds wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:19 pm
Has anybody made a 4HP version with tiny knobs you have to use needle nose pliers to turn yet
Yeah, really....and it's going to have some stupid-ass name like "Cutzz" or something :roll:
Nah, the 12hp version is ‘Stiletto”, and the 8 hp is “Ice Pick”
You heard it here first

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by davidjames » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:41 am

Buyakasoundman wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:21 pm
atrostor wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:38 pm
Seeing the conceptual leap from Clouds to Typhoon, it will probably be something like Machetes.
jgoney wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:37 pm
Quiet Wilds wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:19 pm
Has anybody made a 4HP version with tiny knobs you have to use needle nose pliers to turn yet
Yeah, really....and it's going to have some stupid-ass name like "Cutzz" or something :roll:
Nah, the 12hp version is ‘Stiletto”, and the 8 hp is “Ice Pick”
You heard it here first
My money is on “Shivs” or “Shanks”. I mean, we’re talking about derivative, sub-standard tools that are a pain in the ass to use but good enough to get the job done, right? :hihi:
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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Sweetfiltersweep » Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:26 pm

Foghorn wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:09 am
In watching the demo, it seems to me the control scheme is great.
The filters themselves are just OK. (at least when one filter is used singly)
Must be lots of crossfaders in it.
Same opinion here. I really want to like it, because of the morphable filter type. Many sounds on the video are great, but the basic sound...
Waiting for more examples.

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Kawouddd » Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:54 pm

It’s arrived. Ambivalent enough about it to not get have opened it, but fucj if there’s an MI toy inside and i’ve just sequenced a progression of the Beverley Hills Cop theme tune, and if that isn’t a calling to crack open a new filter and bugger about idk what is.

Edit: genuine case of half arsed buyers remorse for the first time. Yet to crack it. Contemplating a return. Every time I watch the divkid demo I think HELL YES every time I look at the box I think “hmmm.” It spurred me into ordering a Xaoc Batumi and Kamienic from my “want” list, the genuine excitement of which has left the Blades “frankly tepid but it ticks some definite boxes curiosity” paling a bit in comparison.
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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by deftinwulf » Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:56 pm

All you people riffing on the micro names are missing the detail of the icon on the panel - which is a circular saw blade rather than a knife.

So the micro version will be called Buzz. :)

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Foghorn » Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:36 pm

What have I done?
I woke up this morning to an email from Control Voltage confirming my order of Blades.
Never ordered from Control, and I thought they were in NY city.

Now, where the frick am I going to put it.
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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Zymos » Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:41 pm

Control is in Brooklyn, Control Voltage is in Portland. Both fine retailers though.
maybe you’d like to buy some nice used modules? Free cables with purchase!!

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by joem » Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:45 pm

Foghorn wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:36 pm
What have I done?
I woke up this morning to an email from Control Voltage confirming my order of Blades.
Never ordered from Control, and I thought they were in NY city.

Now, where the frick am I going to put it.
Control is in NYC, Control Voltage is in Portland.

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by bobbylandry » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:16 pm

Mine showed up a day early from Detroit Modular :tu:

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Kawouddd » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:23 pm

Kawouddd wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:54 pm
It’s arrived. Ambivalent enough about it to not get have opened it, but fucj if there’s an MI toy inside and i’ve just sequenced a progression of the Beverley Hills Cop theme tune, and if that isn’t a calling to crack open a new filter and bugger about idk what is.

Edit: genuine case of half arsed buyers remorse for the first time. Yet to crack it. Contemplating a return. Every time I watch the divkid demo I think HELL YES every time I look at the box I think “hmmm.” It spurred me into ordering a Xaoc Batumi and Kamienic from my “want” list, the genuine excitement of which has left the Blades “frankly tepid but it ticks some definite boxes curiosity” paling a bit in comparison.
I am an idiot. This is f***ing lovely, undoubtedly my favourite filter in my rack. It is just so astoundingly *playable*

Didn’t get on with plaits, not sold by rings, veils does a nice job, shades yeah ok. This? Fit. Seriously fit. Love it.

Awesome things are happening to Beverley hills cop as I type 😂

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by ATW » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:29 pm

deftinwulf wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:56 pm
All you people riffing on the micro names are missing the detail of the icon on the panel - which is a circular saw blade rather than a knife.

So the micro version will be called Buzz. :)
I like where your head is at.
Though I might go with Razor ;-)

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Re: Mutable Instruments Blades

Post by Kawouddd » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:32 pm

I need to go to bed but I’m just enjoying this too much.

Phenomenal unit. Love it to bits. The double Borg may be relegated to LPG duties more often!

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