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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by SquidboatCommander » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:23 pm

brandonlogic wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:21 pm
Ebotronix wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:02 am
no distributer in europe?
I called Schneidersladen, but they said SM is crap!
Why did they say that?

Sour grapes, maybe?

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by brandonlogic » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:30 pm

SquidboatCommander wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:23 pm
brandonlogic wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:21 pm
Ebotronix wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:02 am
no distributer in europe?
I called Schneidersladen, but they said SM is crap!
Why did they say that?

Sour grapes, maybe?
I can say that they improved their pots! They use metal shafts now and not plastic and wobbly at all.
With new ownership I’m seeing improved quality there.

They are basically a brand new company now.

Andrew from SSF did the redesign and made other improvements from the previous design too!

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by transistorresistor » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:40 pm

I would imagine a dealer taking shots at sputnik because the pots that were spec'd for the original modules have a ton of play in them and are not confidence inspiring and time will tell, but I bet these wear faster because of it. And also of course because the company went out of business... From a manufacturers perspective I can offer that the prejudices that a dealer may or may not have are often not rooted in reality. Not a comment on Schneidersladen but in general, if a dealer is only getting %20 on a product line and they are getting %40 on another, frequently the one they have the smaller margin on is magically "inferior". Lots goes on behind the scenes that most customers wouldnt be aware of.

anyway,deeply appreciate anything you can shed on the function of the width control. I want this module badly but am so afraid Id miss the scanning. I guess you could get this and three batumis for quad modulation haha.

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by brandonlogic » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:13 pm

transistorresistor wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:40 pm
anyway,deeply appreciate anything you can shed on the function of the width control. I want this module badly but am so afraid Id miss the scanning. I guess you could get this and three batumis for quad modulation haha.
heres a vid for you. let me know if this covers what you where looking for. lfo in freq and manualy adjusting width. saw wave then noise. if theres any clipping its from my interface not the module.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SSCjfe ... sp=sharing
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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by transistorresistor » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:15 pm

whoah that was fast, thanks! the link is set to private though.

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by brandonlogic » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:17 pm

transistorresistor wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:15 pm
whoah that was fast, thanks! the link is set to private though.
no prob try it now

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by Sinamsis » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:20 pm

mritenburg wrote:
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slumberjack wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:08 am
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Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:47 am
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I don't see a carrier input?
If you are referring to using the module as a vocoder, you can use either input. Determining which signal is the carrier and which is modulator is done with the spectrum transfer setting. Even->Odd, or, Odd->Even.
I actually meant the modulator input *facepalm* but thanks. Funama has dedicated inputs for the both that's why I asked.
Yeah, this Sputnik module is closer in design to the original Buchla 296, the Fraptools module has a ton of enhancements including being two full modules behind one panel (if I read the description correctly).
Yes this. The big difference is that Fumana has a full 16 bands for processing audio and another 16 bands for analyzing it. So you don’t need to split it in half like the original 296 or it’s derivatives. It sounds wonderful but it costs almost twice the price of this. I am really happy w my Fumana.

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by transistorresistor » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:58 pm

brandonlogic wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:17 pm
transistorresistor wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:15 pm
whoah that was fast, thanks! the link is set to private though.
no prob try it now
thank you for putting that up, thing sounds so good.

I guess really what Im giving up on the verbos is the center control. which unfortunately is madly useful but you can do some nice sweeps w that. These filters dont seem as steep as the verbos either.

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by brandonlogic » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:20 pm

transistorresistor wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:58 pm
brandonlogic wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:17 pm
transistorresistor wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:15 pm
whoah that was fast, thanks! the link is set to private though.
no prob try it now
thank you for putting that up, thing sounds so good.

I guess really what Im giving up on the verbos is the center control. which unfortunately is madly useful but you can do some nice sweeps w that. These filters dont seem as steep as the verbos either.

thats interesting. any demos showing the steepness of the verbos? i wasn't really focusing on the width knob near fully ccw in that video too much so might not have showed the steepness as much.

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by brandonlogic » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:04 pm

heres another vid showing it at more narrow settings, this time sending a sequence into scan and into the vco.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZqmB9u ... sp=sharing

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by transistorresistor » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:14 pm

brandonlogic wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:20 pm
thats interesting. any demos showing the steepness of the verbos?
I dont off hand, just speaking from my experience using it, the bands are very narrowly defined. I love the way it sounds, but if I do alot of overdubs w it I wind up w a haze that is definitely a quality of the steepness of the cutoff and it kinda tires me out, hopeful that this filter will be slightly less aggressive.

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by jfloftin » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:25 pm

brandonlogic wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:13 pm
transistorresistor wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:40 pm
anyway,deeply appreciate anything you can shed on the function of the width control. I want this module badly but am so afraid Id miss the scanning. I guess you could get this and three batumis for quad modulation haha.
heres a vid for you. let me know if this covers what you where looking for. lfo in freq and manualy adjusting width. saw wave then noise. if theres any clipping its from my interface not the module.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SSCjfe ... sp=sharing
That sounds great! Thanks for the link...

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by Ebotronix » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:12 am

Portabella wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:17 pm
Ebotronix wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:02 am
no distributer in europe?
I called Schneidersladen, but they said SM is crap!
Did they explain or justify their stance?
no!

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by Portabella » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:20 am

Ebotronix wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:12 am
Portabella wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:17 pm
Ebotronix wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:02 am
no distributer in europe?
I called Schneidersladen, but they said SM is crap!
Did they explain or justify their stance?
no!
lame then

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by Ebotronix » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:08 am

hope that someone else takes over the sales for Europe!

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by brandonlogic » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:03 pm

warning- turn you speakers down for this one- feedback patch!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fTfuF8 ... sp=sharing
Pinging the filter with a trigger into the audio input here. The red module is a crossfader, cross fading between the trigger and feedback of the sputnik, basically giving the filter a resonance control. Only modulation is a filter from marbles into the scan cv. pushing it here, but even just keeping the feed back mixed in low is nice just to give the filter a little ring!

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by brandonlogic » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:48 pm

a little more refined take of the same patch as previous post, this one for YouTube, and with some reverb too.

amazing how it makes one simple trigger pulse sound like multiple simultaneous drum sounds!


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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by jwm » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:55 pm

brandonlogic wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:48 pm
a little more refined take of the same patch as previous post, this one for YouTube, and with some reverb too.

amazing how it makes one simple trigger pulse sound like multiple simultaneous drum sounds!

decided to go in on one of these todays after this and being on the fence for a bit - appreciate all these demos, very helpful!

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by BrokenBo » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:10 am

just emailed schneiders about the module. they said that they are in talks with sputnik about this but nothing is certain. so maybe there is a chance this will be available in europe as well

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by slumberjack » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:29 am

BrokenBo wrote:
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just emailed schneiders about the module. they said that they are in talks with sputnik about this but nothing is certain. so maybe there is a chance this will be available in europe as well
There were other retailers back then who sold Sputnik, you might find them somewhere else.
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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by skryex » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:54 pm

Would love to get my hand on the touchplate keyboard in Europe. Looks so attractive with more features than the Verbos one, which also not available lol

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by Cybananna » Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:23 pm

I can say that the Sputnik Spectral Processor is amazing. It’s immediately fun and sounds like in these demos come easily. I was a little nervous about buying it because of the price but it is totally worth it.

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by brandonlogic » Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:35 pm

Cybananna wrote:
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I can say that the Sputnik Spectral Processor is amazing. It’s immediately fun and sounds like in these demos come easily. I was a little nervous about buying it because of the price but it is totally worth it.
It’s so nice, I use it in every patch.
Something about the bandwidth, and roll off curves of the bands are just perfect.
A Perfect sound sculpting tool and beyond.
Good price and it’s worth the hp too.

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by Dogma » Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:08 am

Interesting

Good to see andrew ssf is now behind the design - dunno who’s making or doing distribution but he’s def a top tier designer

Nothing would take place of my. Fumana but I really hope the 291e seees the light of day

Alex4 I’ve heard some pretty shitty stories about them so unsurprising

I think dark place or wmd have taken over - my bet is wmd
look up!

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Re: Sputnik is baaack

Post by Sinamsis » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:59 am

Dogma wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:08 am
Interesting

Good to see andrew ssf is now behind the design - dunno who’s making or doing distribution but he’s def a top tier designer

Nothing would take place of my. Fumana but I really hope the 291e seees the light of day

Alex4 I’ve heard some pretty shitty stories about them so unsurprising

I think dark place or wmd have taken over - my bet is wmd
Is the 291e on the list? I don’t think they’ve tackled any 200e inspired modules and I suspect if they did they might run into some opposition.

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