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Post by Dr. Sketch-n-Etch » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:29 pm

Just as an aside, my wife and I watched "Forbidden Planet" the other night. What a dumb movie! I was really disappointed as I expected it to be a lot better. However, the soundtrack is marvellous.
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Post by SavageMessiah » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:10 pm

Stuck together a basic krell patch to unwind from a crappy day at work.

http://imayeti.com/music/orkrellstral_stings.mp3

CV is quadra and shifty, randomness is actually tapped off of a Quantum Rainbow because why not. The titular stings are Plaits' granular cloud mode.

Let me know if that link doesn't stream for anybody, I don't feel like dealing with soundcloud when I've got my little $10 a year shared host to put things in. :razz:

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Post by Mark II » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:32 pm

Dr. Sketch-n-Etch wrote:Just as an aside, my wife and I watched "Forbidden Planet" the other night. What a dumb movie! I was really disappointed as I expected it to be a lot better. However, the soundtrack is marvellous.
At least your wife kept you company, which is really cool. I had to sit this one out alone. Only the score kept me from marking it as ‘watched’ halfway through ....
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Post by wsy » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:59 pm

Mark II wrote:
Dr. Sketch-n-Etch wrote:Just as an aside, my wife and I watched "Forbidden Planet" the other night. What a dumb movie! I was really disappointed as I expected it to be a lot better. However, the soundtrack is marvellous.
At least your wife kept you company, which is really cool. I had to sit this one out alone. Only the score kept me from marking it as ‘watched’ halfway through ....
Had to detox with ‘The radio is broken’ from The man from Utopia ...
I do *hope* you guys are kidding.

Also, realize that Forbidden Planet (including the soundtrack) was done in 1956. The transistor
had only been invented nine years before, Computers used vacuum tubes and occupied entire buildings. Nothing
had ever been launched into orbit.

Put yourself in a 1956 headset and watch it again. Widescreen, with popcorn and beer. :-)
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Post by Dcramer » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:25 pm

I saw it as a child in the late 60’s in the theatre.
By that point we’d all been watching the robot on TV for years.
If memory serves me correctly, the Krell music from the movie isn’t quite what the original patch creates. :hmm:
I just think it’s cool how Barton gave it that great name, giving it such a great connection to my childhood. :party:

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Post by Dr. Sketch-n-Etch » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:58 pm

Well wsy, in fact we both thought that the special effects and technical stuff was fantastic. It's the story that left me pretty disappointed. About half the movie was an excuse to see the lovely Anne Francis in a seemingly endless succession of tiny little dresses (not that I'm complaining or anything). I just thought they could have worked on the story and the script just a little harder.
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Post by schwittersplayspop » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:10 pm

Yeah, it's not exactly Shakespeare.

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Post by wsy » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:55 am

schwittersplayspop wrote:Yeah, it's not exactly Shakespeare.
Hahahaha!!!

Yeah, not _exactly_.

Prospero == Morbius
Miranda == Altaira
Ariel == Robbie
Sycorax (never seen) == Krell (never seen)
Caliban (child of Sycorax) == Morbius's overpowered id-monster
Ferdinand == Capt. Adams
Rightful throne == Krell technology

... and so on...
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Post by Mark II » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:45 pm

The pointed brassieres ...

Now how would a patch like that sound?
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Post by gonkulator » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:16 pm

wsy wrote:
schwittersplayspop wrote:Yeah, it's not exactly Shakespeare.
Hahahaha!!!

Yeah, not _exactly_.

Prospero == Morbius
Miranda == Altaira
Ariel == Robbie
Sycorax (never seen) == Krell (never seen)
Caliban (child of Sycorax) == Morbius's overpowered id-monster
Ferdinand == Capt. Adams
Rightful throne == Krell technology

... and so on...
Yeah, that is one of the reasons I have always found it an interesting movie, plus, given that Sci-Fi, though really popular during that time, was always considered B status stuff. This and The Day the Earth Stood Still bucked that a bit. The other interesting thing about much of this movie is its seeming precursor status to Star Trek. The parts that don't age well don't matter to me, I can see past that stuff. Makes it easy to watch any old movie that is worth watching.
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Post by gis_sweden » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:10 am

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Post by VortexRanger » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:51 am

Krell music comp on Flag Day Recordings for Cassette Store Day:

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Post by wsy » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:05 pm

gonkulator wrote:
wsy wrote:
schwittersplayspop wrote:Yeah, it's not exactly Shakespeare.
Hahahaha!!!

Yeah, not _exactly_.

Prospero == Morbius
Miranda == Altaira
Ariel == Robbie
Sycorax (never seen) == Krell (never seen)
Caliban (child of Sycorax) == Morbius's overpowered id-monster
Ferdinand == Capt. Adams
Rightful throne == Krell technology

... and so on...
Yeah, that is one of the reasons I have always found it an interesting movie, plus, given that Sci-Fi, though really popular during that time, was always considered B status stuff. This and The Day the Earth Stood Still bucked that a bit. The other interesting thing about much of this movie is its seeming precursor status to Star Trek. The parts that don't age well don't matter to me, I can see past that stuff. Makes it easy to watch any old movie that is worth watching.
Also a precursor to Firefly.

Note that the "origin planet" of the Firefly Reavers is the planet that starship C-57D crash-landed on.

One might be tempted to assume it's the _same_ C-57D from Forbidden Planet. Maybe just trivia, maybe a shout-out, maybe not.

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Post by Eurocat » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:46 pm

I don’t know why but I don’t see the love for the krell sound. To my earls it sounds horrible. Is it nostalgic for some people? I also think Richard Devine’s music is annoying as hell as well so maybe it’s just me.

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Post by gonkulator » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:09 pm

Eurocat wrote:I don’t know why but I don’t see the love for the krell sound. To my earls it sounds horrible. Is it nostalgic for some people? I also think Richard Devine’s music is annoying as hell as well so maybe it’s just me.
Do you feel the same for other aleatoric or algorithmic music as well? Because there is a lot of it around here. Or is there something more specific to these types that doesn't do it for you?
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Post by cptnal » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:04 am

Very sweet. :tu:

I find when I land on a collection of sweet spots I could listen to it for hours, and the hardest part is deciding which part to clip out and call "a track". So kudos on your editing skills among all the rest.

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Post by BobbyFogtop » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:59 am

cptnal wrote:
Very sweet. :tu:

I find when I land on a collection of sweet spots I could listen to it for hours, and the hardest part is deciding which part to clip out and call "a track". So kudos on your editing skills among all the rest.
Well, you found some sweet spots there. I quite like the slew.

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Post by cptnal » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:31 pm

BobbyFogtop wrote:Well, you found some sweet spots there. I quite like the slew.
Most kind, thank you. :guinness:

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Post by JoeFuture » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:28 pm

Krell of the day:

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Post by VortexRanger » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:21 pm

[bandcamp width=100% height=42 album=1953494314 size=small bgcol=ffffff linkcol=e99708]
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Post by donttellmom » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:16 pm

Looking for some advice on improving my first attempts at a Krell patch. I have a (mostly) Mannequins set up along with a Disting mk4 for S&H and a Make Noise Function as the "driver". Here are my patch notes:

- One Mangrove provides FM modulation to another, which goes through the Sisters BP filter and into the output.
- MN Function in cycling mode provides an envelope to Mangrove's VCA, and EOC to trigger the Disting.
- Disting's output provides pitch data for the carrier Mangrove
- Just Friends provides LFO modulation for the envelopes Rise/Fall, the FM index of the carrier Mangrove, and the frequency of the BP filter.
- Some HOF reverb and Supa Puss delay on the effects bus

I'm struggling to get the longer, evolving patterns I'm used to hearing in other Krell patches. Mine fluctuates, but rather quickly, and seems to remain in a relatively narrow sonic territory. I believe this might be because I've used LFOs in place of some random sources I've seen in Krell patch diagrams. What can I do to change this? Idk maybe I'm crazy and this is working out. I have Pam's New Workout as well, which I've yet to bring into the mix.

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Post by Dcramer » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:55 pm

The trick is to have two different LFOs modulating Rise and Fall. Those LFOs should be tuned so that they’re not to much faster or slower than the main function generator. The best scenario is to have the shape of the rise and fall changing during their duration. When the two LFOs line up they will push the function generator to speed up and slow down. It’s important to know how much voltage your LFOs put out and how much voltage it takes to fully modulate the main Function generator. If the LFOs are running to fast, they will just flutter the Function generator. If the LFOs are to slow, they’ll speed up and slow down the function generator, in a predictable way and won’t give you the cool envelope shapes.
If you check out some of my Krell vids you’ll see how I sometimes sum in clocked random CVs to push the Function generator faster and slower. :tu:

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Post by gis_sweden » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:44 am

Sometimes you just feel like patching up a Krell.
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