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Post by lintfresh » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:43 pm

Vsyevolod wrote:
If 5U ever existed with banana instead of 1/4", I'd probably switch over...
Stephen, what about Modcan A format??


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Post by PraxisCat » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:16 pm

So I was looking at the panels... this is my idea to make them both 16 (don't change the SWAMP 2.0...keep that at 17, that's special anyway)

1. Drop one of the non-extended VCOs and expand change the S&H to a SSG. Or just have two extended vcos.
2. On panel 2, turn one of the DUSG to a DTG (with optional mods)

That's my idea. You are not necessarily losing much functionality, but reducing duplication. I could provide other suggestions, but looking and thinking about it this seemed like the most sense.

I will like these anyway...so this is just an idea in case you want to reduce by one column. I am fine either way.
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Post by PraxisCat » Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:03 pm

lintfresh wrote:
Vsyevolod wrote:
If 5U ever existed with banana instead of 1/4", I'd probably switch over...
Stephen, what about Modcan A format??


Watching this thread with much interest...
Never mind there are plenty of people who build 5u with bananas...
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Post by Vsyevolod » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:09 pm

lintfresh wrote:
Vsyevolod wrote:
If 5U ever existed with banana instead of 1/4", I'd probably switch over...
Stephen, what about Modcan A format??
Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that... I guess I'd have to sit in front of one and see how it agrees with me, both sonically and ergonomically.

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Post by gruvsyco » Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:47 pm

go ahead and put me down for one of each

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Post by En_Annan » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:04 am

So, after all the hassle, we're settled for 17 columns, + the finished layout?

Anyone sincerely against???

After all, I really would like to - once again - to express my appreciation for all the work people put into layout, printing, group buying etc.

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Post by tojpeters » Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:53 am

Sorry-I've spent the last 3 days waiting for the building inspector to give me my occupancy permit. All day long waiting,like the cable guy but with more power.
I'll start catching up today.

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Post by tojpeters » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:18 am

Updated OP

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Post by Vsyevolod » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:24 pm

Black Swamp = way too busy.

I totally get where you're coming from with trying to maximize the real estate. There comes a time where too much is just too much and I think you found that point. :)

We all want a system that feels complete without taking up too much space. And at the same time it not only needs to be ergonomically workable, but aesthetically poetic. My vote would be to remove the logic board on the far left. It's not an essential piece for a panel of this size nor a 3 panel set.

I love what you're doing with all the incredibly hard work you're putting in on this... can't give you enough props for all that. Just some honest feedback from the gut.

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Post by PraxisCat » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:51 pm

I love the new re-design. Don't change a thing. I am still on for all three!
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Post by En_Annan » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:59 pm

Looks excellent. Tremendous work!!

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Post by PraxisCat » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:15 pm

Vsyevolod wrote:Black Swamp = way too busy.

I totally get where you're coming from with trying to maximize the real estate. There comes a time where too much is just too much and I think you found that point. :)

We all want a system that feels complete without taking up too much space. And at the same time it not only needs to be ergonomically workable, but aesthetically poetic. My vote would be to remove the logic board on the far left. It's not an essential piece for a panel of this size nor a 3 panel set.

I love what you're doing with all the incredibly hard work you're putting in on this... can't give you enough props for all that. Just some honest feedback from the gut.

Cheers,

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I have a SWAMP 1.0. The Logic being there is kind of necessary for the full functionality of this thing. Hard to explain, but I have used it may times for inspired craziness.
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Post by coon » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:51 pm

best put me down for a set as well

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Post by MrRoper » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:44 am

Can I be put down for a set of all 3 please? Are all the pcbs from Ken Stone's CGS site?

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Post by tojpeters » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:12 am

Almost all CGS-you will also need a YuSynth random gates board and a pcb from me for the SWAMP.
Panel 3 needs a Midi2CV from HEXINVERTER.
On a side note I think we will get the numbers I need to make this panel run happen. Just a few things still need on my end-detail stuff,making sure all the tic marks are correct for rotary switches and the holes for CGS91 are correct,just little stuff. And I still need to test my Solo idea. Plus a board redesign,the ones I have now are for the TPS-16 steps. I'm going to make a 8 step version for this project.
But overall everything is proceeding as planned.
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Post by m0d01 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:59 am

I posted early on in this thread, but just so we are clear, put me down for one of each of these.

Tks!

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Post by tojpeters » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:16 am

Time for last call. I'll start accepting payments next week.

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Post by En_Annan » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:32 am

I'm still in!!! All three, + an extra of panel no 1 (vco-panel)!

Although, I think there's a serious lack of mixers on there, how's the thought behind this? I sure have plenty mixers on my other panels, but to make it a stand alone system, it's kind of a drawback - how's the design plan I'm missing out here?

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Post by stainers » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:52 am

Just from a design perspective, these look really great. I love the attention to detail and the evident refinement in the look. It's nice and clean without the usual logo and graphics that accompany these things.
2 things that jump out at me that could be tweaked are:
1. The module names on the top of Quicksand should be brought down a bit closer to the box line like on Okefenokee.
2. The attenuverter swish is the only place where the line weight looks too heavy, perhaps it will look fine in print as silver panel though it could be better as a solid shape.

Just my 2 cents. If I was more competent in DIY and into nannas I'd jump on this.

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Post by Vsyevolod » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:21 pm

En_Annan wrote:Although, I think there's a serious lack of mixers on there, how's the thought behind this? I sure have plenty mixers on my other panels, but to make it a stand alone system, it's kind of a drawback - how's the design plan I'm missing out here?
Just noticed this as well. One DCSM does not a three panel system suffice. No submixing of signals? No CV mixing? Okay, I see a half space 3-in Processor... will this accommodate audio mixing as well?

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Post by Vsyevolod » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:23 pm

stainers wrote:2. The attenuverter swish is the only place where the line weight looks too heavy, perhaps it will look fine in print as silver panel though it could be better as a solid shape.
On the original Blackface Serge, the attenuverters are solid on the right, outlined on the left. This makes for clearer division of function.

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Post by tojpeters » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:00 pm

I lost a mixer on the first panel when I went to 16 columns.
Maybe replace the SSG on the 3rd panel with this?


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Post by tojpeters » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:29 pm

This is my idea of almost enough mixers. More for audio than CV.

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Post by tojpeters » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:50 pm

Or something like this. Only take 10 people to make any panel viable.

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Post by tojpeters » Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:22 pm

I could dump the R6 gate (which will function as a 2 channel mixer) and put a mixer there.

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