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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by MarkSinister » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:17 pm

I would like to join the build run please. I have sent a PM.

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by glubsch » Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:21 am

Great, we now have twelve builders who have signed up. Tomorrow I'll send out information on how we will proceed. I will continue to accept more people signing up until the next step has concluded but that window of opportunity will probably close within a week or so.

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by KaZpeR » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:54 pm

Thanks for putting this together, lot of effort shown in the documents etc.

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by Pando » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:39 pm

Great stuff, but has anyone actually completed the build successfully (other than the developer)? The build thread has no new posts since last July.

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by gwpt » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:11 am

Hey Pando,
Yes, I've finished mine. I've been meaning to post some updates for a while but the world craziness distracted me :)

Here it is, I went for the black look and graduated colours for the knobs.

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and here's a peek on the inside:
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I've done a few large builds (Deckards, Kijimi) and this was on about the same scale.
What set it apart from those was the documentation. Simply wonderful. It had everything you'd need to do the build and then calibrate it.
For calibrate you'll need a DMM, oscilopscope and I found have a signal generator handy
I will follow up with some samples if you like :)

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by latigid on » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:53 am

Wow that's slick!
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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by Pando » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:31 am

gwpt wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:11 am
Hey Pando,
Yes, I've finished mine. I've been meaning to post some updates for a while but the world craziness distracted me :)

Here it is, I went for the black look and graduated colours for the knobs.

I've done a few large builds (Deckards, Kijimi) and this was on about the same scale.
What set it apart from those was the documentation. Simply wonderful. It had everything you'd need to do the build and then calibrate it.
For calibrate you'll need a DMM, oscilopscope and I found have a signal generator handy
I will follow up with some samples if you like :)
NICE!!! Thanks for the pics, I haven't seen the black one yet. Are the pot nuts recessed on yours? Also, what was the total cost of all parts?

Yeah, should be easy, I built the DD as well (one of the first 3 to complete the DIY), and helped to develop the Xerxes (built a few).

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by gwpt » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:54 pm

HI Ando,
I just worked out who you are! We've spoken several times on the DD build thread. It's sometimes tricky mapping FB names to Muff ones (your's is pretty easy though! :)
I didn't go with the recessed nuts and thinks it's fine. Maybe they would be a little more stylish but I don't really notice. and yes, I love the black! Fits in nicely with the rest of my stuff, and really, all gear should be black... haha
The order I built was: make all the cables first and label them (there are lots! I even made a little cable tester), then do the main build in the order the construction guide said. The guide really is a masterpiece in documenation, I wish all projects came with docs like that. And Stephan was extremely helpfull whenever I had any questions.
As for costs, I've just dug through my old emails, i've converted the prices to US$ but of course they might be off now with changes in exchange, price increases.
Base kit (pcbs, panels, pots, switches etc) = US960
Synthcube ic bundle = US$95
Mouser parts = US$450
Tayda Resistors = US$30 (Lot cheaper than mouser)
Knobs (synthcube) = US70
(I think that's everything...)
So approx US$1600 all up
it is a super cool vocoder, the stereo effect really sets it a part from other ones.The Voiced/Unvoiced detector and noise function make speech much easier to understand. I also really like the slew feature, gets almost revrby. and the filter out makes it a great filterback. I have a lot of euro stuff too, so having all the CV in and outs is very handy. Overall I'm very happy with it.

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by glubsch » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:49 am

Hey gwpt, very cool! Thanks for posting the photos and the nice comments.

Pando, if you look at the bundle request form and the BOM spreadsheet, you get a very good overview of the total cost. The cost shown by gwpt is pretty much what you have to pay if you do not have some of the parts already available.

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Post by glubsch » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:51 am

Status update: Of the twelve interested parties, ten have sent me the completed bundle request forms, some of them need clarification. Only two are missing. Besides, one additional person contacted me to get on board.

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by luchog » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:01 am

glubsch wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:51 am
Status update: Of the twelve interested parties, ten have sent me the completed bundle request forms, some of them need clarification. Only two are missing. Besides, one additional person contacted me to get on board.
Oops, forgot I hadn't sent in the request form. You should have mine now (email name is Batwing Candlewaxxe).

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by Pando » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:52 pm

gwpt wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:54 pm
HI Ando,
I just worked out who you are! We've spoken several times on the DD build thread. It's sometimes tricky mapping FB names to Muff ones (your's is pretty easy though! :)
Thanks gwpt for the detailed info! (no idea who you are though) :)

It's a beautiful machine.

Looks like I was a few hours late.... I think I'll go with the 3rd run if/when it happens. Too much going on for me right now anyway.

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Post by synthcube » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:21 am

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by ultravox » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:21 am

It's a beautiful design and I almost jumped on it last year.

Are there any builder/user demos out there?
This means nothing to me... Oh, Vienna!

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by Flounderguts » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:08 pm

Just an update if anyone is wondering...my stuff is currently somewhere between Chicago and Salt Lake City. Cleared customs on July 2nd.
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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by KaZpeR » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:45 pm

I’ve not seen a update on the tracking since June 18th. It’s on its way to Seattle. Did you have a lapse in information like me?

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by Flounderguts » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:06 am

KaZpeR wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:45 pm
I’ve not seen a update on the tracking since June 18th. It’s on its way to Seattle. Did you have a lapse in information like me?
Are you tracking on USPS? The number works on their app or website.

There was a gap between leaving Austria (Customs acceptance, June 17) and arriving in the states (July 2)
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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by KaZpeR » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:01 pm

Flounderguts wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:06 am
KaZpeR wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:45 pm
I’ve not seen a update on the tracking since June 18th. It’s on its way to Seattle. Did you have a lapse in information like me?
Are you tracking on USPS? The number works on their app or website.

There was a gap between leaving Austria (Customs acceptance, June 17) and arriving in the states (July 2)
I get nothing but the following:
Your package is on its way to a USPS facility. Sign up to get updates, and we'll send you a delivery date and time when available.

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Post by Flounderguts » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:10 pm

Mine arrived about 2 hours ago. Just spent an hour looking through all the bits and parts.

I spoke to the mail carrier, and he said that right now updates and scans *are* being done, but the USPS tracking website has issues, and that it often doesn't update until a day or two after the event.

My package was pretty beaten up, but the contents were really well wrapped in a lot of austrian junk mail and auto magazine pages. Zero damage to contents. I find that packages tend to get beaten up in several circumstances; customs in Chicago, FedEx in Memphis, and *anything* that goes through the Atlanta airport.
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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

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Flounderguts wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:10 pm
My package was pretty beaten up, but the contents were really well wrapped in a lot of austrian junk mail and auto magazine pages. Zero damage to contents. I find that packages tend to get beaten up in several circumstances; customs in Chicago, FedEx in Memphis, and *anything* that goes through the Atlanta airport.
Ditto! Mine had a huge corner of the box missing too! However, everything was there and nothing was damaged. :sb:

You got auto magazines? I got super market adds. Beef is on sale!

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Post by glubsch » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:49 am

Save the junk mail. In 20 years you can present it to your children and grandchildren and show them odd advertising, such as people with masked faces. I am looking forward to the time when we start embracing each other again, look back, and say "wow, these were some rough 12 years"...

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Post by luchog » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:26 pm

Mine just showed up a few minutes ago. Box looks kinda beat up, but I haven't had time to unbox it yet. Will do that soon.

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by KaZpeR » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:13 pm

Did your package track, mine just stops on 6/18 getting on da plane...

I’ve messaged Stephan, since I have little more than a tracking number to base anything on to ask if he could compare. Trying to have good thoughts, at least I didn’t order the other parts yet.

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Re: 18-channel DIY Stereo Analog Vocoder

Post by glubsch » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:22 pm

Just a quick update: The assembly guide now includes PCB component placement views (Chapter 21). They are useful in case you need to troubleshoot your populated boards because once populated, you can't really see the component part numbers such as R1, C2, etc. As always, you'll find the link in the first post of this thread.

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Post by Flounderguts » Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:36 am

KaZpeR wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:13 pm
Did your package track, mine just stops on 6/18 getting on da plane...

I’ve messaged Stephan, since I have little more than a tracking number to base anything on to ask if he could compare. Trying to have good thoughts, at least I didn’t order the other parts yet.
Track via USPS. It works great.
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