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Post by selfdestroyer » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:06 pm

Awesome was wondering if that was going to happen. Put me down for a uPlaits. Lol
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Post by autodafe » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:05 pm

nice...
but lots of 0402 components...
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Post by synthetek » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:16 pm

I will wait for uPlatis with 0603 :ripbanana:

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Post by devinw1 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:25 pm

autodafe wrote:nice...
but lots of 0402 components...
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Oh heeeelllllllls no. Lol

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Post by autodafe » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:09 am

well, I have read somewhere Olivier say that the new modules would have been "not suitable for DIY", and he was probably meaning this. 0402 are reeeeeeally small and I think it's nearly impossible/really difficult for many DIYers....
I have already lost my eyes on those damn 0603, I think I would n't touch those 0402 for a while. Or maybe wait a conversion/redesign with some bigger components...

Or maybe just buy a used Plaits ;-)

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Post by nurbivore » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:52 am

I'll wait for 0603, mostly because I've already got all these resistors! I don't want to go out and buy the same values in yet another size.

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Post by Jarno » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:03 am

1. Download CADsoft Eagle
2. Download Plaits files
3. Replace packages with 0603 or 0805
4. Do minor rerouting
5. Order boards

I hear "waiting" twice in this thread. Again, open source allows one to learn things, DIY, people. :sb:

I did a quick check earlier, and replaced everything with 0805, seems to be enough room, maybe move one of the ADC's and associated parts to the bottom, and also create a ground plane there. In series production, having components on both ends adds cost/ risk/ complexity, but if one is hand soldering anyway, it is really not a problem.

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Post by forbin » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:41 pm

Certainly looks very doable... My preference (as I am not manufacturing it) would be to move most of the components to the back and leave pots and sockets on the front -- easier to make them 0805. Pain for manufacturing but fine for hand soldering... I like the design and I can see why Oliver went this way. The entire menu thing...

I was interested to see he used a switching regulator for the digital stuff to improve efficiency -- people usually worry about the noise but being monolithic it will help. Like the fact the codec will go to DC... not readily apparent from the datasheet!

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Post by Altitude909 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:25 pm

synthetek wrote:I will wait for uPlatis with 0603 :ripbanana:
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Post by masterofstuff124 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:53 pm

that was quick :yay:

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Post by secrethero303 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:33 pm

Altitude909 wrote:
synthetek wrote:I will wait for uPlatis with 0603 :ripbanana:
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Still 0402, or did you go for larger footprints?

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Post by Altitude909 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:58 am

secrethero303 wrote:
Still 0402, or did you go for larger footprints?
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Post by jensu » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:45 am

Nice of them to take the creadit:
"This is the kind of thing what we specialise in here at amazingsynth.com, fiendishly challenging DIY synth projects"

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Post by Altitude909 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:14 am

jensu wrote:
Nice of them to take the creadit:
"This is the kind of thing what we specialise in here at amazingsynth.com, fiendishly challenging DIY synth projects"
hehe, I bet it takes a team of PHDs to email a board file to a fab. Maybe missing silkscreen is what makes them "fiendishly challenging"
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Post by toneburst » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:17 am

jensu wrote:
Nice of them to take the creadit:
"This is the kind of thing what we specialise in here at amazingsynth.com, fiendishly challenging DIY synth projects"
I don't think they're taking the credit for producing an 0603-pitch version of Plaits (since I don't think that's what they've done).

They're just saying they enjoy the challenge of soldering fine-pitch components.

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Post by flts » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:51 am

toneburst wrote:
jensu wrote:
Nice of them to take the creadit:
"This is the kind of thing what we specialise in here at amazingsynth.com, fiendishly challenging DIY synth projects"
I don't think they're taking the credit for producing an 0603-pitch version of Plaits (since I don't think that's what they've done).

They're just saying they enjoy the challenge of soldering fine-pitch components.
I think the point was not about 0603 version, but that they are simply taking a freely available board file from a well known manufacturer, leaving out the company name due to licensing restrictions, passing it to PCB manufacturing house with no other modifications, and selling the resulting boards to DIYers.

So essentially their (or rather, his, I assume this is adam's store) contribution is mailing a board file designed by someone and based on that someone else's commercially sold module to an (European?) fab house, collecting the money from DIYers for the boards, and promising to provide some sort of e-mail support in case of build issues.

And that's the kind what they "specialize in".

I know that sounded sarcastic, but the point was simply that there is not much they are doing, except for acting as sort of a broker / reseller for PCBs from someone else's module designs, and only for module designs from that module manufacturer. So they should rather say they "specialize in producing PCBs based on files from Mutable Instruments' github repository with Mutable Instruments branding left out". Whether they are "fiendishly challenging" or not depends completely on what that particular designer does, and which of his designs one wants to build, as the only criteria for selection seems to be "we have PCBs for most of Mutable Instruments designs for sale".

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Post by selfdestroyer » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:43 pm

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Post by CLee » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:29 pm

flts wrote: So essentially their (or rather, his, I assume this is adam's store) contribution is mailing a board file designed by someone and based on that someone else's commercially sold module to an (European?) fab house, collecting the money from DIYers for the boards, and promising to provide some sort of e-mail support in case of build issues.

And that's the kind what they "specialize in".

I know that sounded sarcastic, but the point was simply that there is not much they are doing, except for acting as sort of a broker / reseller for PCBs from someone else's module designs, and only for module designs from that module manufacturer. So they should rather say they "specialize in producing PCBs based on files from Mutable Instruments' github repository with Mutable Instruments branding left out". Whether they are "fiendishly challenging" or not depends completely on what that particular designer does, and which of his designs one wants to build, as the only criteria for selection seems to be "we have PCBs for most of Mutable Instruments designs for sale".
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Post by c0ntr4d1ct10n » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:45 am

I just got the pcb for this and had ordered all of the parts previously so am ready to build..except I completely did not see those ceradiodes..

They are not ordinary diodes that I can get from my local store.

Does anyone know if these diodes can be substituted by something more standard? like 1N5819?

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