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I can´t believe I frankensteined the whole thing

Post by LunaticSound » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:17 pm

I did it. I made a 2hp panel with a jack connecting to the gate rail and made normalized connections to all my envelopes. Now, if there are no cables plugged into their gate inputs, they will all be triggered by what is connected to the 2 hp entry, usually my usb midi. IT IS AWESOME.

But I also went completely bonkers on the way and just glued wires to the pcbs, lots of veeery dirty work. Hahahahahaha! *thunder

I´d show you a picture, but I am worried, you will throw me out of here, if you see, what I did.

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Post by LunaticSound » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:19 pm

I am now trying the same for CV, but the Rubicon2 seems to be connected differently.

There is never any connection to the V/oct input unless a cable is plugged in, not even from the non-switched standard connector pin on the pcb. Does anybody know something about this? Is Intellijel using different jacks?
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Re: I can´t believe I frankensteined the whole thing

Post by Kattefjaes » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:22 pm

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I´d show you a picture, but I am worried, you will throw me out of here, if you see, what I did.
DO EET.

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Re: I can´t believe I frankensteined the whole thing

Post by Daisuk » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:22 pm

Username checks out. :lol:

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Post by lomma-kommun » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:25 pm

Interresting indeed!

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Re: I can´t believe I frankensteined the whole thing

Post by LunaticSound » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:31 pm

Ok, but don't judge!

I had an old mungo zoom leftover, cause the zoom is incorporated into the g0 panel. So I used that as the rail gate :D

That little pcb on the floor (glued to some cardboard) was meantto be used very differently, but I gave up on doing it the right way, mostly cause I WANTED RESULTS NOW.
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Post by LunaticSound » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:33 pm

Maths. No mercy.
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Post by lomma-kommun » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:39 pm

Cool don’t let anything or anyone stop you from having fun and experimenting.
I was also interested in the gate bus. I wish all clocked modules could use it for 16th notes and the cv bus for reset. Would save a lot of patch cables. But at the same time I understand why it is not a hit idea.

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Post by LunaticSound » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:41 pm

Yupp, I will put clock and Reset on my control skiff as well.

Thats where Planar and Tetrapad live, so I really want as little clutter as possible.

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Post by LunaticSound » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:44 pm

This one was scary.
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Post by LunaticSound » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:50 pm

ZPO and Angle Grinder now also get their CV from the rails.

Man, now just the Rubicon2 is refusing to play along. I´d be so happy if someone had any idea, why, and what I could do.

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Post by LunaticSound » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:03 am

Why Intellijel, whyyyy?

Seems all Intellijel modules somehow forego the switched connector... Even though they look just like Thonkiconns. Dammit. It is so close to being perfect now.

A note on normalizing clock: I realized that this isn´t as easy, or rather not possible, because almost all of my modules will register a cable being plugged in and will generate internal clock, if it isn´t, so there is no point in adding clock to the empty jack.

Realizing this, and having gone way past the sanity line, I just drilled a few holes into the Mantis case and made my own shared bus :roll:

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Post by LunaticSound » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:06 am

Here is the proof:
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Post by Foghorn » Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:49 am

Every time I try to use the gate buss, all kinds of modules start doing things I didn't expect.
I can't believe how many different modules are in some way connected to the gate or CV busses.
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Re: I can´t believe I frankensteined the whole thing

Post by LunaticSound » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:45 am

Foghorn wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:49 am
Every time I try to use the gate buss, all kinds of modules start doing things I didn't expect.
I can't believe how many different modules are in some way connected to the gate or CV busses.
There is a very simple way to know, if they are! If they have a 16 pin vs. a 10 pin power header. I haven´t run into any trouble so far.

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Post by LunaticSound » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:23 pm

Update, harharharhar!

*organ sounds*

A very different type of Frankensteinization, but a monstruous one nonetheless.

Behold, the Mantis Twin with a Make Noise Skiff head!
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Post by LunaticSound » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:31 pm

If you click on the pics, they are rotated correctly.

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Re: I can´t believe I frankensteined the whole thing

Post by joem » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:05 pm

LunaticSound wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:45 am
Foghorn wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:49 am
Every time I try to use the gate buss, all kinds of modules start doing things I didn't expect.
I can't believe how many different modules are in some way connected to the gate or CV busses.
There is a very simple way to know, if they are! If they have a 16 pin vs. a 10 pin power header. I haven´t run into any trouble so far.
That's far from a foolproof method. It's entirely possible for a module to use a 16-pin connector on its PCB and the CV/gate and +5V pins simply aren't connected to anything, so those modules don't respond to the CV/gate buses. I'd be willing to be there are a lot of modules out there like that.

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Post by LunaticSound » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:55 pm

joem wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:05 pm
LunaticSound wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:45 am
Foghorn wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:49 am
Every time I try to use the gate buss, all kinds of modules start doing things I didn't expect.
I can't believe how many different modules are in some way connected to the gate or CV busses.
There is a very simple way to know, if they are! If they have a 16 pin vs. a 10 pin power header. I haven´t run into any trouble so far.
That's far from a foolproof method. It's entirely possible for a module to use a 16-pin connector on its PCB and the CV/gate and +5V pins simply aren't connected to anything, so those modules don't respond to the CV/gate buses. I'd be willing to be there are a lot of modules out there like that.
While I agree that would be possible, I've never seen one.

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Post by LunaticSound » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:17 am

joem wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:05 pm
LunaticSound wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:45 am
Foghorn wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:49 am
Every time I try to use the gate buss, all kinds of modules start doing things I didn't expect.
I can't believe how many different modules are in some way connected to the gate or CV busses.
There is a very simple way to know, if they are! If they have a 16 pin vs. a 10 pin power header. I haven´t run into any trouble so far.
That's far from a foolproof method. It's entirely possible for a module to use a 16-pin connector on its PCB and the CV/gate and +5V pins simply aren't connected to anything, so those modules don't respond to the CV/gate buses. I'd be willing to be there are a lot of modules out there like that.
Looking at this again, for Foghorn this should very well pose a foolproof method, as they want to know, which modules can be expected NOT to respond to the select bus. So anything with a 10 pin header is safe to throw on a rail where select bus or gate/cv bus action is ocurring.

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Re: I can´t believe I frankensteined the whole thing

Post by joem » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm

LunaticSound wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:55 pm
joem wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:05 pm
LunaticSound wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:45 am
Foghorn wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:49 am
Every time I try to use the gate buss, all kinds of modules start doing things I didn't expect.
I can't believe how many different modules are in some way connected to the gate or CV busses.
There is a very simple way to know, if they are! If they have a 16 pin vs. a 10 pin power header. I haven´t run into any trouble so far.
That's far from a foolproof method. It's entirely possible for a module to use a 16-pin connector on its PCB and the CV/gate and +5V pins simply aren't connected to anything, so those modules don't respond to the CV/gate buses. I'd be willing to be there are a lot of modules out there like that.
While I agree that would be possible, I've never seen one.
To start with, any module that uses the +5V bus will have a 16-pin connector on the PCB, whether or not they use the CV/gate buses. Some modules let you optionally connect to the CV/gate buses, so those modules could be set to not respond to the buses but will still have a 16-pin connector. Some manufacturers only use 16-pin connectors. 16-pin connectors on the modules seem less common these days, but I think earlier generations of eurorack modules used them a lot more.

So your solution will definitely filter out any module that could possibly connect to the CV/gate buses, I agree with that. But it will also exclude some that don't connect to it. That's what I was trying to point out.

edit to add: For example, Mutable Instruments Braids, which formerly was one of the most popular eurorack modules, at Maths-level popularity, had 16-pin power connectors on the PCB since it used the +5V bus (until the July 2015 revision).

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Re: I can´t believe I frankensteined the whole thing

Post by LunaticSound » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:44 pm

Good points!

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