DanaFo wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:22 pm
I'm sensing some gatekeeping posts coming into the thread and I'm going to put it bluntly:
If you want your community to expand and encourage people to get into DIY and amateur engineering then make it a safe place to fail and grow. More people will make more money and eurorack will continue to evolve. I'm not learning any new skills by navigating obsolete BOMs because the cliff is so damn high and the time requirement is too great for a HOBBYIST. I'm not a pro designer and I'm not an engineer, I need small hills to climb and build confidence.
If you want to circle jerk cryptic IC values with your fellow gatekeepers then keep calling me a 1st world paint by numbers noob.
Sorry you're feeling blocked by the "gatekeepers," but the reality is that DIY electronics is NOT EASY. For most people, just soldering decent joints and learning to place parts correctly has a steep learning curve. If that type of thing, where you can save a bit of money by doing what you call "paint-by-numbers" kits is your thing, then great! You're certainly not alone!
But the saga of your partial kits are not even the deep end of DIY synth hobby. And the people who want to help you have invested thousands of hours in learning to do some of this stuff. I would argue that learning to navigate obsolete BOMs and read part datasheets is an ESSENTIAL skill to learn if you want to DIY the more interesting bits of kit, and one that takes the engineers and designers just as much time to do as it takes you! In fact, they also need to spec the part, rather than just choosing an available version of it!
Hey, I get it! Faced with a part number like RFCP06032K3FTEA (which is for a resistor) and trying to figure out what else might be the same is daunting! And most of the electronics suppliers have different UI's and can be hard to navigate. AND there aren't many options when you're in Canada...especially with ruinous brokerage and shipping fees (I'm from Vancouver Island, I feel that pain)
This forum is 90% friendly, and we want to help. Some of us are crustier than others, but there aren't too many who are unkind. Having said that, if you want to sail on this boat, there is a certain amount of anchor pulling to do.
The good news is, we're happy to show you the best way to do that...but you have to use your own muscle.
Here are some truths about DIY synth stuff:
1. It's not necessarily cheaper than simply buying modules.
2. Parts are frustrating. Imaging troubleshooting a bit of gear that has a fake or misplaced part that you don't even know what it SHOULD look like.
3. DIYers bulk buy parts for good reasons
4. Expect difficult projects to take months, if not years!
5. Coding....you will probably have to learn to code.
And regarding obsolete parts, there are often workarounds, reissues, and hidden sources that we share only with our loved ones and hoard from the unbelievers. You might be surprised at how generous of time and parts Wigglers can be. Sometimes we even have them hiding in our stash!
Unfortunately, if you don't want to meet us halfway, by learning the part codes for the obsolete IC's, it makes it hard to help. It's like "help me find a pushrod for my Corvette!" "What year make and model is your 'Vette? I have some pushrods for a C4..." "What the hell is a C4? I just need Corvette stuff!"
For me, the entire point of having HOBBIES, is that they take TIME, and that I feel like I can do a better job than a professional (who is someone who knows which corners they can cut so that they can make money.) If you're in a hurry, maybe it would be better to take that time to earn more money in your actual profession so that you can buy the modules you want, rather than wasting time building them? I'm serious...I spend far more time *building* my modules than I do *using* them. Because for me, that's my happy place.
Good luck. And be careful of feeding the trolls.