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EML 101 users owners help please

Post by DrOctave » Wed May 23, 2012 12:19 pm

ok i have an issue with my eml 101 it seemd someone has turned my Control mode 1 three position rotary switch on osc one and pulled off the wires from 3 parts of it. I see the wires clear and can fix this i just need a pic of the knob behind the panel to see as where what wire goes where. there is a brown , grey, and a green wire that came off.

Please anyone with an eml 101 help me fix my beast.
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Post by SMS303 » Wed May 23, 2012 12:28 pm

contact George Matson of MMM.
he's mister EML :mrgreen:
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Post by DrOctave » Wed May 23, 2012 12:30 pm

i did and am waiting to see if he will pull his panel off the case to take me a pic. but i cant hope on one person that has a busy life to do it. i was hopeing someone else here has on and can just snap me a quick nice pic so i can do this repair.
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Post by mmm » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:29 pm

OK. I opened it up.
CM1 rotary switch. From rear, detent mechanism to your right:
Using clock positions...

noon-12:00-Blue
1:00-Yellow
5:00-Green
7:00-Brown
8:00-Grey
10:00-White w/red stripe.

That's how mine is wired.

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Post by josaka » Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:28 pm

ok.. just a simple basic question.. been trying to get my 101 to sequence.. where are you meant to start?

i have had some joy with trigger and modulation inputs..
the keyboard input looks the correct place but nothing has any effect from that..got odd ring mod sequences going.. and ticks :)

my model 500 also works in a very random way syncing the lfo to the S1/S2 cv/gate input.. its not really making normal east coast controllable melodies but it is in time and the notes respond to cv..

ANY help with the (supposedly)correct settings for 101/500 would be most welcome..

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Post by mmm » Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:52 pm

josaka wrote:ok.. just a simple basic question.. been trying to get my 101 to sequence.. where are you meant to start?

i have had some joy with trigger and modulation inputs..
the keyboard input looks the correct place but nothing has any effect from that..got odd ring mod sequences going.. and ticks :)

my model 500 also works in a very random way syncing the lfo to the S1/S2 cv/gate input.. its not really making normal east coast controllable melodies but it is in time and the notes respond to cv..

ANY help with the (supposedly)correct settings for 101/500 would be most welcome..
I don't understand the question.
Sequence it on its own? Or, from a 1V/O sequenced CV source?

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Post by josaka » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:06 pm

control them... in any way :) from a daw /sequencer..

the manufacturers method firstly..
or any people have found.

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Post by mmm » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:03 pm

josaka wrote:control them... in any way :) from a daw /sequencer..

the manufacturers method firstly..
or any people have found.
You won't be able to using the standard 1V/O "standard".

EML was a bunch of engineers. 12 semitones/Octave. They assigned 0.1V/semitone to control their VCOs. So, 1.2V/O.
ARP and Moog chose 1V/O. which boils down to 0.833V/semitone.

Any 1V/O CV source will be flat at 1 octave.

There's nothing magical about the slope. You're either going to either make a gain amp box with a 1.2 gain. Or, have a tech re-calibrate the exponential amps to accept a 1V/O CV.
That will screw up your keyboard tracking though. They generate 1.2V/O.

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Post by josaka » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:25 pm

I have 1.2 as well..
the keyboard has no response..
I was wondering people are are routing cv/gate..in/outs etc
and is there any "mode" or settings it needs to be set to?

I have a 1v 5u system and many 1.2v keyboards..

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Post by colorbars » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:39 pm

Some clarification on how to control one of these without a keyboard would be great... I've got a 100 sans keyboard that I've sent some CV at different points... Got some sound but didn't really react as I thought it might :hmm:

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Post by josaka » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:20 pm

from what I can gather the 101 is 3.3hz .. you need to cv/gate it from the keyboard(mine has little effect..not sure if it needs to be set specifically)
or from the trigger(which works well but triggers only 1 envelope?) and the Osc control(for cv) ..all in all it doesn't make life very straight forward.

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Post by josaka » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:27 pm

ok.. small update..
got it running pretty well.. just using a Korg SQ-1 set to 1.2hz/v..

inputting the CV to "osc control" and Gate to "trigger in".. that gets the signal to env 2..
..need to turn the the "Oscillator Control" "osc 4/Ext- Sampler" knob all the way to the left to the "osc 4/Ext"side ...it tracks ok over 2 octaves or so..
..true its not perfect but it opens it up to some greatness as well..

as a note/tip the sq-1 seems to not output quite enough juice from the internal sequencer(strange but it also may be me) I overcame(?!) this buy using slides which had some unusual but usable moments..

when I used the sq-1 via the computer usb it worked as you would expect..oddly.. still.. its given a new life to the king of quirk.

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Post by davidh » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:42 am

here I have a video where I sequence it with my René
hope it helps, ask question if any

[video][/video]

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Post by josaka » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:16 am

:) thats great.. got there myself eventually ..the trick is the osc 4/ext use..
the tuning is still wayward but great for stuff like in your video..

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