Model 416 Easel Breakout-Box [preliminary interest check]

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Post by MDP » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:17 am

I'm definitely down for a fully built version, but do you have an estimate on how much it would cost in the end? Just to see if I'd need to sell my Eurorack or not! :goo:
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Post by jhulk » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:44 pm

yes but at the moment how you have it with the extra program card plugged into the top means its in the way of the programmer above it

if you have already done it that way before then its simple for you to do.


as i think this way your giving more room

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Post by boops » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:56 am

gddfp wrote:
boops wrote:Really Nice work...
My solutions:
With the almost finished PMB (preset manager Box for 208 rev2 ,i dont know atm If it càn work with the Bemi easel)
It Will use the 56 edge connector too,but as it an external little device No problemo with the access of the expander boat
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Imho,the easel,+expander+Preset manager should be a great design tool ,for live and studio sessions.
My solution for the external expander boat (created one year ago)
How do you bring out the edge connector to your PMB, Boops ?

I've seen your designs for the external boats before, and they're nice. But I'm inclined to leave the choice of something like that (side cheeks) to the user, and just offer a simple 19" boat for the 416 Expander. That way the user can position the 416 Expander anywhere he/she sees fit.

As for a duplicate of the Easel's edge connector somewhere on the 416 Expander, so Program Cards can be inserted on the 416 Expander instead of the Easel: there's really no room [on the main PCB] for it unless I drop some functionality... (ie. leave off at least one column of knobs & jacks). Even if I'd would like to try that (though I seriously hesitate giving up any functionality) -- just to see if it would work, this would require an enormous amount of work and would certainly push the ETA several months back.
But I'm still looking at possible solutions...

_g
I Will use à male 56 pins plug
Imho ,Your panel have to be buchla compatible to put the expander else where

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Post by gddfp » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:36 pm

boops wrote:
gddfp wrote:
boops wrote:Really Nice work...
My solutions:
With the almost finished PMB (preset manager Box for 208 rev2 ,i dont know atm If it càn work with the Bemi easel)
It Will use the 56 edge connector too,but as it an external little device No problemo with the access of the expander boat
viewtopic.php?t=140876&highlight=
Imho,the easel,+expander+Preset manager should be a great design tool ,for live and studio sessions.
My solution for the external expander boat (created one year ago)
How do you bring out the edge connector to your PMB, Boops ?

_g
I Will use à male 56 pins plug
Not an IDC solution then (unless you'd order a thousand custom-made in China).
Which kind of plug/receptacle system will you be using ?
boops wrote:Imho ,Your panel have to be buchla compatible to put the expander else where
Ehm, not sure what you mean by that ?
If you mean "making it 100% compatible with a 200e/200 system, in regards to the pulse/gate system, power & CV's", then it's "No. It's meant as an expansion to the Easel only." Sorry.

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Post by boops » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:53 am

I ve thought Just the holes In your panel should be compatible.
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HQ small case buchla psu PCB
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Post by gddfp » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:33 am

boops wrote:I ve thought Just the holes In your panel should be compatible.
Oh. Yes, sure.

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Post by island » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:46 am

Perhaps I am stupid :bang: But I have looked accurately and I'm missing the arpeggiator hold switch :hmm:
Easel + 416 Meta Expander & Snoopy a big show

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Post by musicaespressiva » Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:11 am

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Post by synthi » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:54 am

:yay: :hail: Waiting for the 416 expander!!!!
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Post by gddfp » Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:37 pm

synthi wrote::yay: :hail: Waiting for the 416 expander!!!!
Thanks [all] for your patience !

To be honest, I'm a bit behind on things, due to some unforseen circumstances, and some unexpected changes as well... It's always like that, I guess. :-(

In parallel to the technical side of things, I'm also putting administration in place, so to make sure I can guarantee proper warranties and legal financials.

But please be assured, everything is still progressing nicely to a June beta-release.

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Post by studiokpg » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:54 am

gddfp wrote:
synthi wrote::yay: :hail: Waiting for the 416 expander!!!!
Thanks [all] for your patience !

To be honest, I'm a bit behind on things, due to some unforseen circumstances, and some unexpected changes as well... It's always like that, I guess. :-(

In parallel to the technical side of things, I'm also putting administration in place, so to make sure I can guarantee proper warranties and legal financials.

But please be assured, everything is still progressing nicely to a June beta-release.

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Post by YE'OLDE BOY » Wed May 04, 2016 5:59 am

Oh yes this is just the ticket.
when and where will it be available?
I'd be very interested in a prebuilt model. :hyper:

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Post by 3001 » Wed May 04, 2016 3:27 pm

oooh! sounds good! I'm definitely interested in this thinger. and if you need a beta tester I can help out :hyper:
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Post by 3001 » Wed May 04, 2016 3:27 pm

oooh! sounds good! I'm definitely interested in this thinger. and if you need a beta tester I can help out :hyper:
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Post by gddfp » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:39 pm

Bumping thread upwards because of an important update on page 1... :mrgreen:

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Post by rayce » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:02 pm

Looks great! Really like that you are offering it as a DIY solution. I'm thinking it would be quite fun to build it into the top shell of the easel case.

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Post by Neovintage » Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:59 am

Still in for this !! :party:

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Post by jhulk » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:21 pm

looks much better know glad you decided on the redesign still in for diy solution

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Post by gddfp » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:26 am

I've added some sound bites, demonstrating the 416 Interface's (and 416 Expander) Noise section.

In a new topic.


Thanks for listening !
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Post by island » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:37 am

:tu: :yay:
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Post by jondent » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:39 am

Looking forward to the DIY version of this
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Post by gddfp » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:27 pm

Hello fellow Weaselers !

Some good news for 208 rev2 owners: it is now confirmed & tested that the Model 416 Interface (and thus also the Model 416 Expander) is 98.93% compatible with the rev2 clone.

There's only two small issues:

- Since there's no ModOsc Range switch on the rev2, this can't [obviously] be put under voltage control.
- The ModOSc's output is not fed to the edge connector (unlike the BEMI Easel), and thusly is not available on either the 416 Interface or 416 Expander. Perhaps this can be solved easily by wiring the output to pin 6 (front) of the edge connector ? (I dunno, I didn't open the rev2)

So, not really "issues", but rather shortcomings, which IMHO are not a big deal.

Another thing is that the rev2 needs to be switched to "Both" control mode in order to have access to the full functionality of the 416 Interface & Expander. This makes kinda sense, but the BEMI Easel interfacing works fine in "Local" mode as well... Again, not a big deal, but just something to take into account.

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In other good news: the Model 416 Edge Card -- part of both the 416 Interface & Expander -- is, much to my surprise, compatible with BEMI's iProgram Card. Yay.

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The Model 416 Meta Interface (the DIY version) is ready & done. I'm still waiting for a manufacturer to ship the MTA cable assemblies. Once that wait is over (a couple of weeks?), the Model 416 Meta Interface DIY kit will be released and readily available. I expect it to be in the $200 to $250 price range.

The Model 416 Meta Expander box is nearly finished as well. I'll be releasing some demo videos soon.


Thank you all for your patience !
Phil, thanks for your help -- it's appreciated !

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Post by jondent » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:37 pm

That's great news guy.
Put me down for two kits of each board.

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Post by yan6 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:41 am

Just checking in to see if there has been any more progress :love:

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Post by Delphino » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:31 pm

Im in! Fullbuild preferred. Kit too :)

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