Lets Talk About Buchla Oscillators

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Lets Talk About Buchla Oscillators

Post by buildafriend » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:45 pm

Hi all :party: :deadbanana:

I want to make a run of a few Buchla oscillators. What's the lineage here? What are the most sought after models and how did they ( if at all ) change over the years?

Pointers to resources about this are welcomed and highly appreciated :sb:

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Post by Nejrup » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:50 am

There are a lot of threads on here with comparisons of Buchla oscillators if you search around, look at this one for example: viewtopic.php?t=47024&sid=f448c0edc9ab7 ... 4c583201e0

I guess the most sought after vintage oscillator (of the 200 series) have been the original 259. It have been cloned both as a replica and as a 1u version (25s)
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Post by Nejrup » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:53 am

For build notes and info, i would strongly recommend this site: https://modularsynthesis.com/roman/buchla.htm
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Post by anomie » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:21 am

Great pointers from Nejrup. If you're considering doing a run of OSCs, Studio H already does a *great* modernised remake of the 258, and Roman's 25s is, I believe, based on the 259. However, noone (including Buchla) is making a version of the 259e that tracks well over CV...

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Post by Synesthesia » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:28 am

anomie wrote:Great pointers from Nejrup. If you're considering doing a run of OSCs, Studio H already does a *great* modernised remake of the 258, and Roman's 25s is, I believe, based on the 259. However, noone (including Buchla) is making a version of the 259e that tracks well over CV...
maybe this one did; )

https://modularsynthesis.com/buchla/259c/259c_vco.htm

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Post by hermbot » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:43 am

I've read that the Easel oscillators are somewhere between the 258 and the 259 in functionality and tone, and I don't think I've seen anyone attempt to package that pair outside of a full 208...

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Post by johnnywoods » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:14 pm

There is a ton of opportunity in producing new 200 oscillators. The 258 and 259 variants seem relatively well covered. It might be nice to look at some other circuits that already exist and port them over to the 200. Like what they did with the DAO (MI Braids in 200 format).

The J3rk Ultrafade Oscillator or Mirror Core would be a super cool 200 module. You could even squeeze his pico vco in there as a mod source.
The Ian Fritz DoubleDeka and Teezer would be sweet too!

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Post by Happymastering » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:37 am

Wich module it would be to clone the 208 oscillators?

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Post by djs » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:34 am

johnnywoods wrote:There is a ton of opportunity in producing new 200 oscillators. The 258 and 259 variants seem relatively well covered. It might be nice to look at some other circuits that already exist and port them over to the 200. Like what they did with the DAO (MI Braids in 200 format).
I'm in the beginning stages of building a MI Tides with the Sheep firmware in a 200 format. It's a personal project, but when it's further along I'll post some info on the DIY subforum. I think itD be a cool addition to my Buchla clone system.
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Post by Kent » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:17 am

The Buchla environment doesn't really beg for another 259 or 258 variant. There are many solid options available. Doug's 258h has got the 258 thing covered and is e-series compliant.

Keen Association's 268e quad oscillator is the only step in a new direction in quite some time. Verbos's 262v being another unique offering.

Going for something digital with novel sounds would be the only 'game-changer' in my book.
Please design in stability of tuning and decent scaling. The 259e is wonderful but is limited and somewhat frustrating due to it's lumpy scaling and resolution.

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Post by jo__dem » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:10 pm

no one talking about the zeroscillator?

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Post by MindMachine » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:45 pm

jo__dem wrote:no one talking about the zeroscillator?
For a number of reasons I suppose, other than the fact it was a very complex, if not kludgey build.

I don't think it gets any better sounding than a J3rk 258.
buildafriend wrote:
I want to make a run of a few Buchla oscillators.
So are these for your own use or just to sell?

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Post by ndkent » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:09 am

jo__dem wrote:no one talking about the zeroscillator?
fwiw it might not be talked about since while it was available in the Buchla format, it didn't originate as a Buchla vco, mind you I own 2 of them, though neither is Buchla format.

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Post by Kent » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:04 am

jo__dem wrote:no one talking about the zeroscillator?
Feel free to talk about it! Go on; eleborate!

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Post by natureclubcassettes » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:02 pm

loudestwarning includes 258s in a few of his panels

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Post by mutierend » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:32 pm

I have the 259e, 261e, 258e, 268e in my 18U, and a 259r sitting unused (for now) in a separate boat. I don't have a DAO but I have used Braids.

What I would love, but it will 100% never happen, is a Buchla-format version of the Club of the Knobs 1621 Morphable Wavefront Oscillator, which is MU format. It comprises two Moog 921-style oscillators with waveshaping and a built-in effects mode for adding harmonics to the signal path, intended to be used with filters. I have one in my MU cabinet, but I haven't used it with my 200e. Yet.

Digital oscillators, like the aforementioned DAO and 268e, are where you can bring something new to the platform. Even repaneled versions of eurorack or MU sound modules with Buchla flavor would be a welcome addition, and we can't expect sempervirent to do it all!

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Re: Lets Talk About Buchla Oscillators

Post by Peti » Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:43 am

HI,

is the Buchla 258e an original Buchla Module or is it DIY cloned?

i wanted to find PCBs but could not find anywhere :hmm:

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Re: Lets Talk About Buchla Oscillators

Post by MechaSeb » Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:01 am

Model 258 has never been released under the "e" flag officially by Buchla.
It's basically a modern re-interpretation (fully compatible with "e" system !) made available by a great wiggler : http://studiohsoftware.com/
I don't think PCB has ever been available for building your own but you may want to ask Doug himself.

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Re: Lets Talk About Buchla Oscillators

Post by Peti » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:41 am

thank you for informing, i see.

I did not find any offers or infos on his website about this specific module

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Re: Lets Talk About Buchla Oscillators

Post by djs » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:26 am

"Noise is what the Earth is made of" - David Bowie

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Re: Lets Talk About Buchla Oscillators

Post by mritenburg » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:31 pm

djs wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:26 am
There was one on reverb recently:

https://reverb.com/item/16374520-buchla ... y-studio-h
The Studio H DPO’s (258e colloquially) sell quickly. They are exceptionally nice analog core oscillators that track perfectly under MIDI control and they round out the 200e oscillator options with that glorious 258 FM sound. You have to pull the trigger immediately when they come up for sale.

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Re: Lets Talk About Buchla Oscillators

Post by MechaSeb » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:16 pm

Wasn't it done upon demand ?
Feel free to email Doug and i'm sure he will get you sorted out.

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Post by mutierend » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:11 pm

mutierend wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:32 pm
I have the 259e, 261e, 258e, 268e in my 18U, and a 259r sitting unused (for now) in a separate boat. I don't have a DAO but I have used Braids
My how things have changed. I now have a 258e (DPO), 259e, 261e, 268e, 25S, and Zeroscillator. Sold the 259r. Bought a DAO and sold it.

I have a lot of oscillators.

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Re: Lets Talk About Buchla Oscillators

Post by Happyanimal » Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:05 pm

djs wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:26 am
There was one on reverb recently:

https://reverb.com/item/16374520-buchla ... y-studio-h
Have one for sale. PM me if you want it.

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