Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Discussing some incredible modules that don't quite fit into the other forum categories.

Moderators: luketeaford, Joe., lisa, Kent

Post Reply
User avatar
01235813
Wiggling with Experience
Posts: 263
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:48 am

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by 01235813 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:58 am

BLACK MARKET wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:47 am
As far as the "manual" goes it's my understanding that Don's philosophies on things like that were coming from the perspective of a classically trained musician. When you invest in a professional instrument, they don't come with instructions on what every little part is and how to use it. A piano does not come with an instruction manual. A guitar does not come with an instruction manual. A Saxophone does not come with an instruction manual. At that level you would be expected to already have a basic understanding of what it is that you are looking at. This is an instrument that you need to explore AND practice to be good at. If you just painted by numbers then you wouldn't really learn your instrument inside-and-out therefore never becoming proficient at it.
Well said. Really well said.

Just received a heads up from schneiders, looks to be arriving within the next week or two.

User avatar
island
Wiggling with Experience
Posts: 338
Joined: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:56 am
Location: Elsewhere

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by island » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:10 pm

New kid in town.
Here the first try, the crackle comes from the mobile
Easel + 416 Meta Expander & Snoopy a big show

User avatar
adolan
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 34
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:48 pm

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by adolan » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:26 pm

Nice!, Congratulations!
It sounds so much better than the Arturia version :P so full bodied and warm.
I am psyched to have hands on this...I was watching more Todd Barton stuff last night my VCS-3 card arrives today, man this next few weeks is going to be amazing to say the least!
island wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:10 pm
New kid in town.
Here the first try, the crackle comes from the mobile

User avatar
0netwo0netwo
Wiggling with Experience
Posts: 499
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:19 pm
Location: United States

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by 0netwo0netwo » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:14 pm

nice video i enjoyed it, did you have any experience in other synth worlds before entering this buchla one or is this your first journey?>

User avatar
mgscheue
Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 719
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:34 pm
Location: Michigan

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by mgscheue » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:04 pm

Great stuff! Fun to see what people are doing with these.

User avatar
island
Wiggling with Experience
Posts: 338
Joined: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:56 am
Location: Elsewhere

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by island » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:12 pm

0netwo0netwo wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:14 pm
nice video i enjoyed it, did you have any experience in other synth worlds before entering this buchla one or is this your first journey?>
Thank you very much. No, I'm not quite the beginner. I've had an Easel and other toys for a while now.
Easel + 416 Meta Expander & Snoopy a big show

User avatar
doublestewart
Common Wiggler
Posts: 129
Joined: Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:34 pm
Location: salt lake city

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by doublestewart » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:50 pm

For anyone who bought one from a vendor, I just got a notification from Detroit Modular that they've received their shipment of command modules and will be sending mine tomorrow.

Also, if you weren't able to get one from this first run, it might be worth contacting the stores who will be carrying them to see if they have any available. As Eric had mentioned they didn't have as many to send out as they were first were planning so some stores didn't get as many as they were originally expecting. When I talked to DM a couple weeks ago they said their website showed the modules as out of stock because they weren't sure how many they would be getting and didn't want to oversell them. So it's possible they have some available.

909one
Common Wiggler
Posts: 156
Joined: Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:00 am
Location: Chicago
Contact:

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by 909one » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:51 pm

Just picked up my Easel Command at Rock N'Roll Vintage in Chicago. I saw a box full of 4 of them, and I believe only mine and someone else's were spoken for. Give em a call if ya want one! The should have two available.

studio304
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:03 am

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by studio304 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:45 pm

Received mine a few days ago - coming from Eurorack - very fast to clear and start with new patches - really impressed with 208C - build quality is also very good - extremely versatile - quick to explore new sounds - learning the smallest change in a fader or rotary can have a big effect - fun stuff:


User avatar
vgermuse
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 2990
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:42 pm
Location: ashland, oregon

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by vgermuse » Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:45 pm

re: Don and lack of manuals ...
What I heard was that Don wanted his instruments to be non-proscriptive and thus wanted
every user to make connections that he hadn't thought of no matter what their musical
background, learning, not-learning, training, not-training. As Allen Strange wrote at the
end of the Easel manual, "TRY EVERYTHING -- the least that can happen is the something
will be learned." Happy exploring! Follow the sound!

tele_player
Common Wiggler
Posts: 243
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:50 am
Location: Sacramento

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by tele_player » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:54 am

I’ve read the same thing, and I still think a real manual makes sense. Without defining what the device should be expected to do, you can’t even know if it is working correctly.

Frankly, I think the suggestion that a proper manual might hinder creativity is absurd.

User avatar
weinglas
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 5276
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:16 pm
Location: Germany

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by weinglas » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:08 am

island wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:10 pm
New kid in town.
Here the first try, the crackle comes from the mobile
Great demo! Thanks a lot for sharing. :yay:
Album with Kozepz:"FRNDS"
"All Tubes"
"Game Over!"
mirarimusic wrote:... This fucking blows away Beyonces release today as well!!!!
dan_p wrote: I'll still be listening to this one in years to come. best thing I've heard for ages
Videos

909one
Common Wiggler
Posts: 156
Joined: Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:00 am
Location: Chicago
Contact:

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by 909one » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:33 am

I had about three hours to play with the Easel Command last night. Here are some initial thoughts:

So, I may be coming at this backwards for some people here. I'm coming from Eurorack, and a large portion of my setup are modules that are Buchla style clones. Things like Verbos Complex Oscillator, Make Noise Optomix and Maths are the heart of my small system. I've also wanted an Easel ever since I've been into modular synths, but couldn't really afford that large purchase at first. My goal with getting this new Easel Command is to sub out a large portion (or hopefully all) of my eurorack. This may have been a lofty goal I'm realizing. I also am really sick of the cycle of buying and selling with eurorack, and the culture that surrounds it, and was hoping to leave the format. Its an endless source limitless possibilities that some people do enjoy, but I'm finding for me that its becoming unhealthy and its hindering creativity. My personality needs limitations I think. Lastly, I really want an instrument that's designed as a whole, not just a collection of modules. I want something that has a beautiful interface that makes me insipred to play it, that I can learn like a guitar.

With that said, here is what I think of the Easel so far... It sounds amazing. The interface is beautiful. The build quality is excellent. It does already inspire thinking about patching in a different way even in the few short hours I've spent with it. Its more intuitive than I thought it would be. The midi works great right out of the box, got it going with very little effort.

So, with that said, will this replace my eurorack? I don't know yet. I A/B-ed the Easel with the Verbos CO and Optomix combination, and honestly they sound really close. The Verbos wavefolder actually sounds warmer than the Easel, less high end. The Optomix has vactrols in it that ring slightly less than the Easel, which I slightly prefer. As far as functionality, I think if I went only Easel, I'd really miss having a dual function generator like the Maths. So, I must confess, I think my expectations of the Easel were going to be that some magical Morton Subotnick / Charles Cohen fairy dust were just going to pour out of it and I was going to instantly curse my Euro away. But honestly, its just not the case. Its really a testament to some of these Eurorack makers like Make Noise and especially Verbos to show that they really can make convincing Buchla clones in Eurorack. It makes the decision a lot harder because its making me question whether or not I should embrace a new format or not, because envitably I have to just trully embrace the limitations of the Easel, keep some of the Euro and deal with converting voltages and such (which is kind of counterintuitive to me) or eventually buy more Buchla modules, which is expensive.

This is all part of the journey I guess... Sometimes you take some turns, and they lead you on a new path, or sometimes they send you back to where you were before. May fully change my mind again later but this is where I am now.

909one
Common Wiggler
Posts: 156
Joined: Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:00 am
Location: Chicago
Contact:

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by 909one » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:36 am

I'm going to make an adendum already, the Buchla Easel sounds even better than I thought. I was listening on headphones last night, but on speakers there is so much low end, heft and clarity. Even just the pure sin wave sounds pretty great. I was messing around with the Easel and the Make Noise 0-Ctrl. It's really nice combo. Also, the iOS app called Ribn is a really amazing app for it as well. Sends looped or static midi cc data on whatever channel you want and I was easily able to send all sorts of data to any parameter on the Easel.

tardwash
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:26 pm

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by tardwash » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:26 pm

909one wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:33 am

The Optomix has vactrols in it that ring slightly less than the Easel, which I slightly prefer.
I'm not crazy about the sound of either half of my Optomix. I tend to use the LXD far more for pinging. I'm very pleased with the sound of vactrols in the Easel Command.

Pagoda-100
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 5
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:03 pm
Location: Ohio

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by Pagoda-100 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:09 pm

909one wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:36 am
I was messing around with the Easel and the Make Noise 0-Ctrl. It's really nice combo. Also, the iOS app called Ribn is a really amazing app for it as well.
Mine will deliver in the am and I was just wondering if the 0-Control would be of any use! How did that go? I have the Verbos Touchplate and a CVGT1 on the way from Noisebug as well.
Looking over the edge of the 5U hole
Bunch of Eurorack modules, GRP 24, Vector sequencer, Vermona Performer MK2, OB-6m, Elektron Analog 4 mk2

User avatar
mgscheue
Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 719
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:34 pm
Location: Michigan

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by mgscheue » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:02 pm

Bet the 0-Control would be really great with it. I tried my Pressure Points and it worked well.

The USB-A Host came today. Nice, easy installation.

User avatar
adolan
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 34
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:48 pm

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by adolan » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:52 pm

So mine came this afternoon, I just spent like 4 hrs with it and I gotta say it sounds amazing!
It feels solid as can be. I think I figured out the LEM 218 thing but I also prolly/may need a good while to get used to it, pretty amazing though.
The EMS VCS 3 card is crazy, I think I need to really spend some time with the Easel before I get into that deeper, that said I tried it out and its pretty darn awesome as well. Glad I ordered a bunch of extra bananas and bars! I have a feeling I will be busy with this thing for quite some time to come...
Well Done to all the folks at Buchla USA :yay:


Image

909one
Common Wiggler
Posts: 156
Joined: Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:00 am
Location: Chicago
Contact:

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by 909one » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:25 pm

The 0-Ctrl is pretty awesome with the Easel. I rigged up a make shift 3.5mm to banana cable. The dynamic gate output works really well going straight into the cv input for the lpg. It maintains all the dynamics as set by the knobs. Only qualm with the O-Ctrl is a the pre-set envelopes, I hate how you can only get these snappier if you have a clock coming into unit. Also, the pressure output has a preset attack and decay that is longer than I prefer. I tried Pressure Points with the Easel as well. Works well. I really would like an LEM 218. I can't find one anywhere though. So maybe a Morph for now? Is it worth it?

User avatar
papz
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 3273
Joined: Sat May 18, 2013 6:52 pm
Location: in a suitcase
Contact:

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by papz » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:17 am

I love your tablecloth and Wixárika pieces of art. :love:
Finest EMS gear service and Music Easel/208 goodies

I'm not a synths dealer and I'm not aware of an inexpensive Synthi secret market, please don't ask me if I know one for sale.
I don't offer support of any kind to people attempting to build clones of EMS equipment.

tardwash
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:26 pm

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by tardwash » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:58 pm

I’m having trouble figuring out how to trigger the env via midi with the Morph or Launchkey Mini.... any ideas? I’m getting pitch and pressure, but can't work this out.

User avatar
mgscheue
Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 719
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:34 pm
Location: Michigan

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by mgscheue » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:18 pm

Is the Envelope Generator trigger source switch on the 208c set to Keyboard?

User avatar
NazzNomi
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 20
Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:53 pm
Location: Seattle

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by NazzNomi » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:28 pm

Attached the Midi Implementation Chart. EG is triggered by Note On Note # 6-8, channel 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

tardwash
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:26 pm

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by tardwash » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:56 pm

mgscheue wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:18 pm
Is the Envelope Generator trigger source switch on the 208c set to Keyboard?
Yes.

I noticed on the midi implementation chart posted above that it requires note messages sent on a different midi channel to trigger the eg. I'm going to try to create a template in the Sensel app now./s]

Nevermind - user error

909one
Common Wiggler
Posts: 156
Joined: Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:00 am
Location: Chicago
Contact:

Re: Buchla Easel Command Module 208C

Post by 909one » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:19 pm

I've not had any issues triggering envelope via midi din with the Arturia Keystep and via iPad with the usb connection as long as the Envelope is set to keyboard. Are both of those MPE? Maybe there's a different configuration?

Post Reply

Return to “Buchla, EMS & Serge”