This.. exactly this!
Laughed my ass off watching this
Totally the experience that I’m looking for in a Buchla system
mutierend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:49 pmWhile I really don't like having blank panels in my case, I second the suggestion of starting small and growing from there. Get a 12wls case with these modules:
That's phase 1. It's ok to not have presets at the beginning. Just explore those modules as much as you can. Really grok how the 281e and 266e works.
Just my 2v for your consideration.
I was in a similar boat, pun intended, but went with a skylab case. The only thing I'd do differently from mutierend's suggestions would be to replace the 225e with a 206e for preset management and output mixing. You could leave out the 227e and have 2 spaces for expansion. Of course you could just get a 18wls case.mutierend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:49 pmWhile I really don't like having blank panels in my case, I second the suggestion of starting small and growing from there. Get a 12wls case with these modules:
That's phase 1. It's ok to not have presets at the beginning. Just explore those modules as much as you can. Really grok how the 281e and 266e works. Then move on to phase 2:
- 259e (or DPO/258e)
Now you have two sound sources and (my favorite) sequencer, plus preset management, which is essential for the 251e. You can also clock the 251e with MIDI. Really dive into that 251e. Read all the posts here. Todd Barton (I think) created a great PDF with a summary of the posts. With those seven modules, you have a pretty amazing system already. Now it's phase 3:
- 256e (or 257e)
Now you're getting into some pretty exciting modulation. The 291e merits focused exploration on its own. The 256e/257e is your avenue to shaping all the crazy CV you can get from the 266e, 251e, and 281e. With those 9 modules, you have a pretty substantial system (and investment). Now you have 3 module spaces left for phase 4. I would suggest:
Now you have incredible CV generation and modulation, exciting sound sources and modulation, and rich CV control of sound positioning.
Just my 2v for your consideration.
If you are into patching and looking for digital system (Buchla 200 is digital, isn't?) secondhand G1 (almost unlimited number of available (and finished) modules and very musical sounding DAC, hundreds of presets you can save and recall for live performance instantly) will cost you 500-700 EUR max. With G1 you can patch "regular" synths sounds, you can patch "all"coast type of sounds, you can process external input, you can create whatever music you like.
These are my opinions.Tonefloat01 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:16 pmI have a few more questions for you if you don’t mind answering for me.
1. Is it normal to wait almost two months to get a new Skylab sized system?
2. Why is there such limited stock (if any...) of new Buchla format modules available at their authorized dealers?
3. Are Buchla modules built to order or are they waiting for a boat to arrive from China (or wherever..) with new stock?
4. For longtime Buchla heads do you see the pond drying up on support (firmware) on the modules that you currently own?(I ask this based on me looking at the firmware revs of some modules saying 2012 was the last update...)
5. While I’m looking at modules that will make my Buchla system stand alone, ultimately I’d like to use it via my computer and control it from my DAW via expert sleepers and/or Ableton CV Tools or Bitwig. For the people currently using their Buchla systems this way, how much of a PIA is this to accomplish based on your experience?
6. Does it make sense to have multiples of the same Buchla oscillators or does one of each suffice?
7. Is the Lem 218 still available?
Thank you for the replies to my additional questions regarding a Buchla system, I greatly appreciate it!mutierend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:44 amThese are my opinions.
1. Yes. Buchla is a small company and (I assume) they are focusing on getting the 208C out.
2. See #1. Noisebug usually has a good stock of modules and they are great to work with.
3. I assume they build stock per demand from dealers. The modules are complex and take time to build & test.
4. I really hope so. They did update the app for the USB card, which is great. I would very much like firmware updates to address longstanding bugs.
5. My interface is DC-coupled so I was able to send CV to the Buchla and use a format jumbler to pipe through the CVGT1. MIDI is, of course, the easiest way to do this.
6. That is 100% personal preference, of course. In a small system like a Skylab, I would do two different oscillators, e.g., 261e and DPO, or 261e and 259e.
7. I don't think so. Buchla would know for sure.
We interviewed Eric Fox for Source of Uncertainty episode 4. He provides some details and some hints on some of these questions.
Again, clarifying that these are my opinions/observations and I have no insider information.
Congrats! I'd say that's a great way to start. It probably won't be that small for long But it should give you months of exploration and better to start small anyway before commiting to 10k + And the half sized h series should be easy to resell for someone else wanting to start small.Tonefloat01 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:36 pmWell, after much deliberation and input from you (the Buchla community) I ordered my first starter system today.
I ordered a LEM 4 with the 259e in place of the 261e and I’m really excited to start my journey in the Buchla universe.
While small, it’s a good way for me to test the waters before going ‘all in’ and buying a much larger system which I had originally intended to do.
Just wanted to say thanks for everyone who chimed in to answer my presale questions and hopefully you’ll all be willing to answer some more again from me in the near future!
So your not entirely new to this world.