Buchla System purchase 2020?

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Re: Buchla System purchase 2020?

Post by Michael Tiemann » Mon May 11, 2020 6:38 am

Welcome to the journey! As my system has evolved over the years I've sold and bought different modules. Send me a DM if your interested in picking up some used modules as this process continues.

My most recent patch walkthrough may give you some ideas...


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Re: Buchla System purchase 2020?

Post by Count Zero Interrupt » Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:10 am

mutierend wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:49 pm
While I really don't like having blank panels in my case, I second the suggestion of starting small and growing from there. Get a 12wls case with these modules:

- 261e
- 281e
- 292e
- 266e

That's phase 1. It's ok to not have presets at the beginning. Just explore those modules as much as you can. Really grok how the 281e and 266e works. Then move on to phase 2:

- 225e
- 259e (or DPO/258e)
- 251e

Now you have two sound sources and (my favorite) sequencer, plus preset management, which is essential for the 251e. You can also clock the 251e with MIDI. Really dive into that 251e. Read all the posts here. Todd Barton (I think) created a great PDF with a summary of the posts. With those seven modules, you have a pretty amazing system already. Now it's phase 3:

- 291e
- 256e (or 257e)

Now you're getting into some pretty exciting modulation. The 291e merits focused exploration on its own. The 256e/257e is your avenue to shaping all the crazy CV you can get from the 266e, 251e, and 281e. With those 9 modules, you have a pretty substantial system (and investment). Now you have 3 module spaces left for phase 4. I would suggest:

- 227e
- 223e

Now you have incredible CV generation and modulation, exciting sound sources and modulation, and rich CV control of sound positioning.

Just my 2v for your consideration.
How do you MIDI clock the 251e?

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Re: Buchla System purchase 2020?

Post by batchas » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:50 pm

Count Zero Interrupt wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:10 am
mutierend wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:49 pm
While I really don't like having blank panels in my case, I second the suggestion of starting small and growing from there. Get a 12wls case with these modules:

- 261e
- 281e
- 292e
- 266e

That's phase 1. It's ok to not have presets at the beginning. Just explore those modules as much as you can. Really grok how the 281e and 266e works. Then move on to phase 2:

- 225e
- 259e (or DPO/258e)
- 251e

Now you have two sound sources and (my favorite) sequencer, plus preset management, which is essential for the 251e. You can also clock the 251e with MIDI. Really dive into that 251e. Read all the posts here. Todd Barton (I think) created a great PDF with a summary of the posts. With those seven modules, you have a pretty amazing system already. Now it's phase 3:

- 291e
- 256e (or 257e)

Now you're getting into some pretty exciting modulation. The 291e merits focused exploration on its own. The 256e/257e is your avenue to shaping all the crazy CV you can get from the 266e, 251e, and 281e. With those 9 modules, you have a pretty substantial system (and investment). Now you have 3 module spaces left for phase 4. I would suggest:

- 227e
- 223e

Now you have incredible CV generation and modulation, exciting sound sources and modulation, and rich CV control of sound positioning.

Just my 2v for your consideration.
How do you MIDI clock the 251e?
From the buchla manual, about the 225e:
Assigning the internal bus.
Up to four 259e or 261e Complex Oscillators can be assigned to the four internal MIDI busses A – D.
Plus each of the four sections of one 292e Quad Dynamics Manager and one 281e Quad Function Generator can be assigned these A - D busses if their module ID is set to A.
The MIDI messages recognized and potentially routed to appropriate modules on the internal bus include:
1) Note On and off messages to 281e/h (if Module ID A)
2) Velocity information to the 292e/h (if Module ID A)
3) Pitch/Note number information to all 259e’s and 261e’s according to their module ID. This includes PitchBend Messages.
4) MIDI Clock Messages, sent to the 223e, 250e’s, 251e, and 252e’s
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Re: Buchla System purchase 2020?

Post by Default1 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:50 pm

How do you MIDI clock the 251e?
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Press the tempo knob until it says "clo". The beautiful thing is that each section can be assigned to the midi clock or have its own clock. The 251e is such a deep sequencer.
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Re: Buchla System purchase 2020?

Post by Oxix52 » Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:49 am

To the OP, congratulations on jumping in to the world of Buchla. I love seeing discussions like this when someone is excitedly researching and asking questions in order to find what is best for them. It reminds me of when I got my first modules. There wasn’t near as much info available back then, but was still exciting nonetheless. I think I waited about 6 months for my first order, and about 2 years for my ZOe. Yes, patience is very much a requirement in this world.

Buchla can be quite quirky. It frustrates some people. But I have found that the quirks can either be worked around, or very much contribute to the creativity and sound.

Again, congratulations and I would love to see some video of your first explorations if you are so inclined.
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Re: Buchla System purchase 2020?

Post by Tonefloat01 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:40 pm

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I’ve been having a lot of fun exploring my modest Buchla system and have made some really great sounds with it. :sb:
Every time I switch it on I can’t help but make a patch that sounds straight out of 1975 Doctor Who episodes which is awesome. :guinness:
I could only imagine what kind of wonderful noises that I could make if I had an entire Skylab based system at my disposal...
I would love to get a 250e and a 266e next but I have some other hardware purchases in the works besides Buchla. :help:
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