200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by CiDE » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:59 pm

It would be funny if they reissued the vintage 297. Might be useful to test the market but, come on, they didn't even change the panel graphics on the newer version (not even the added preset management).
I would find ambitious to drop the MARF upright with the 5 reissue modules, as some people said he would.
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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by thetwlo » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:37 pm

do half of a 256e in euro!

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by mritenburg » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:43 pm

CiDE wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:59 pm
It would be funny if they reissued the vintage 297. Might be useful to test the market but, come on, they didn't even change the panel graphics on the newer version (not even the added preset management).
There’s only one version of the 297. It was originally released in the early 2000’s. The only change was that they stopped putting Rogam knobs on it and started putting Selco knobs on it when they released the 200e.

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by CiDE » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:41 pm

mritenburg wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:43 pm
CiDE wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:59 pm
It would be funny if they reissued the vintage 297. Might be useful to test the market but, come on, they didn't even change the panel graphics on the newer version (not even the added preset management).
There’s only one version of the 297. It was originally released in the early 2000’s. The only change was that they stopped putting Rogan knobs on it and started putting Selco knobs on it when they released the 200e.
So it was in (mostly) constant production since 2002? That's interesting, since the 260 got an update AND a facelift (and preset management) before getting discontinued, I expected more or less the same of the 297. Felt they were just being lazy, since the panel graphics still look like they're made with the Rogans in mind (the Phase Shift Center knob is a clear victim of this).

The module is amazing and I love its sound, it's just a detail I can't ignore everytime I see it.
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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by Minimoog56 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:40 am

BTW - Who is the "Dave" who ran the Barber Shoppe referenced on the 297?
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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by mritenburg » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:43 am

Minimoog56 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:40 am
BTW - Who is the "Dave" who ran the Barber Shoppe referenced on the 297?
Dave from the oddities foundation. I don’t know his last name.

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by MechaSeb » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:44 am

Minimoog56 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:40 am
BTW - Who is the "Dave" who ran the Barber Shoppe referenced on the 297?
I instantly thought about David Rosenboom but i may be wrong.
Who knows... 'aside from the guy called "Dave" himself of course. :party:

edit: ah, you might be well right mritenburg

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by captnapalm » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:03 am

mritenburg wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:43 am
Minimoog56 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:40 am
BTW - Who is the "Dave" who ran the Barber Shoppe referenced on the 297?
Dave from the oddities foundation. I don’t know his last name.
Dave Kean

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Post by mutierend » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:24 pm

Didn't Dave Kean commission the module? Oh and it's "Audities", not "Oddities." Although "oddities" might be apt.... ;)

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by mutierend » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:27 pm

I had a 260e and traded it. I really, really, really want a 260.

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by gaslampmusehog » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:18 pm

mutierend wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:27 pm
I had a 260e and traded it. I really, really, really want a 260.
Don’t we all!

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by Fuzz » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:10 pm

gaslampmusehog wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:18 pm
mutierend wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:27 pm
I had a 260e and traded it. I really, really, really want a 260.
Don’t we all!
Ehhhhh, I might pass. I think Charles Seeholzer said it best, "It's a very, novel oscillator." :hihi:
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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by mutierend » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:12 pm

Fuzz wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:10 pm
Ehhhhh, I might pass. I think Charles Seeholzer said it best, "It's a very, novel oscillator." :hihi:
The 260 is special. We need someone to loan us one for the show. ;)

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by levelhead3 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:18 pm

Fuzz wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:10 pm
Ehhhhh, I might pass. I think Charles Seeholzer said it best, "It's a very, novel oscillator." :hihi:
horses for courses

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by winn3r » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:06 pm

Excited for the 200 series!

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I've been away from Muffs for a few years (maybe more) and just came back, and was considering getting an Easel. Can someone provide a quick synopsis of what happened for why they aren't available. alternatively, maybe point me in the right direction or a thread (hopefully it isn't crazy long) so I can catch up. thanks.
Also curious about this -- I have a BUSA Easel, but what does "full 208c Easel" mean? The 208c and 218 in a new enclosure where they can be removed and re-racked?

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by 01235813 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:00 am

winn3r wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:06 pm
Excited for the 200 series!

carynrich wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:26 pm
I've been away from Muffs for a few years (maybe more) and just came back, and was considering getting an Easel. Can someone provide a quick synopsis of what happened for why they aren't available. alternatively, maybe point me in the right direction or a thread (hopefully it isn't crazy long) so I can catch up. thanks.
Also curious about this -- I have a BUSA Easel, but what does "full 208c Easel" mean? The 208c and 218 in a new enclosure where they can be removed and re-racked?
The way I see it the easel command is not an easel, it's a 208c. The 218 is missing. With full easel I assume he is saying that the easel will again be produced. That means a 208 (in whatever form) with a 218, preferably in a suitcase.

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by Selador » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:41 am

01235813 wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:00 am
winn3r wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:06 pm
Excited for the 200 series!

carynrich wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:26 pm
I've been away from Muffs for a few years (maybe more) and just came back, and was considering getting an Easel. Can someone provide a quick synopsis of what happened for why they aren't available. alternatively, maybe point me in the right direction or a thread (hopefully it isn't crazy long) so I can catch up. thanks.
Also curious about this -- I have a BUSA Easel, but what does "full 208c Easel" mean? The 208c and 218 in a new enclosure where they can be removed and re-racked?
The way I see it the easel command is not an easel, it's a 208c. The 218 is missing. With full easel I assume he is saying that the easel will again be produced. That means a 208 (in whatever form) with a 218, preferably in a suitcase.
I meant that it was stated that they have specific plans to release the 208c in the full easel configuration, with suitcase and 218, instead of keeping the 208c purely as just the command boat/individual module. But that there are also some manufacturing hurdles regarding both the suitcase and the 218 they have to work through first, before that happens
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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by ishi » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:16 am

Does anybody have a clue which 200-series DIY-clone he has in mind, when he says that "when you look very hard, you might find one which to a decent amount captures the essence"? He's saying it at this segment:


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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by slam » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:24 am

I think he is joking about how many clones are available to build for the 200 series. He says “a lot of them capture a decent amount of the essence.”

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by BLACK MARKET » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:50 am

Hey everyone!
I appreciate the interest in what it is we’re working on. Although I don’t spend too much time on the forum, with all of the announcements and imminent release of Easel Commands into the wild it is probably a good idea for me to poke my head up once in awhile :)
Let’s see if I can quickly shed some light on a few things:

Easel vs Easel Command- When I refer to a “full” Easel, I am indeed referring to the classic configuration of some form of 208+218+Case. Just like what we did with the 208C, the 218 and case needs to be updated in order to make them better, more consistent, and have the ability to scale production based on demand. We’re actively working on these and hopefully I can make an official announcement with details this summer.

Easel Preset Manager- Joel, Darren, and Charles are now working on this one. Those guys are the masters at this stuff, so I’m gonna hopefully have the official rundown of what all it can do soon. While it will be different physically than iProgram Card, it’s my understanding that the the new UX from a software angle might be able to be an update for the iProgram card. I’ll stop talking now about it since those guys will yell at me for not knowing what I’m talking about. We’ll make a clear announcement about this soon :)

200 and 100 reissues- These full-size recreations are being headed up by Jon Nenson (The Human Comparator) and our own in-house designer, Charles Seeholzer. We were planning on having (5) 200 models to show off at SB. These certainly won’t be the only 200’s we offer... but it’s a little difficult to launch 20+ models all at the same time! We insist on making them as good as they can be. Otherwise, what’s the point? Releasing a handful at a time just makes the most sense so that each model can get the proper attention they deserve. If you don’t see your favorite one in this first run, just know that it will probably not be that far behind. Patience young grasshoppers.

Clones vs Official- To clarify, the point I’m trying to make is in regards to not wanting someone to think poorly of any brand based on the possibility that they are playing with a shitty, poorly built, corner-cutting diy project from god knows where. Please don’t confuse that statement with the fact that I know there absolutely are quality builds out there that do a great job of really capturing the true spirit of the original design. I’m friends with a lot of those who are considered some of the best at doing this and that’s why I choose to partner with them when possible. I know that I have the best resources out of anyone to do this right including involving actual people who were there alongside Don when these were being developed. If Buchla can offer a consistently high-quality official version that comes with full warranty/support and it helps support some of the “Associates” who were there with Don... seems like that’s the right way to do it. No shade being thrown at those using quality built products intended.

Who is “Dave”?- All I’ll say is that it is being renamed to “Don’s Barber Shop” as per the request of some of those who were closest with Don.

I hope I didn’t create more questions than answers! If there is a real pressing question you need answered, just hit me up directly and I’ll do my best to answer with the best available info I have and feel free to share my responses with the rest of the class :)

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by Selador » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:25 am

Thank you very, very much for all the info and clarification! I really appreciate you taking the time to respond to this at length, and am glad to hear how things are progressing, and I look forward to all these announcements in the future.

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Post by pelican » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:12 pm

Metal or plastic case?
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Post by djangosfire » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:28 pm

Thank you Eric!! Cheers, Adam

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Re: 200 series reissue and full 208c Easel coming from BUSA!

Post by misa » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:46 pm

Thank you Eric for the statement!
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