Ring modulator for contact mic junk metal

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Ring modulator for contact mic junk metal

Post by Bataserpa » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:42 pm

Once again I am here asking for help to improve my eurorack noise machine.
Part of my setup is based in a metal object with a contact mic connect to Mutable Instrument Ears then processed through some modules ( for now a filter and distortion). To give more dynamic in my harsh noise set I am in the need of a Ring modulator module.

Which one is nice for this kind of processing? I found some options, but don't know which one works better for this kind of sound. I think some with internal lfo ( like moogerfoger ring modulate) seems to be a better option.

For the use of ring modulator I am trying to replicate think Merzbow in the early 90's (pulse demon, electric salad, green wheels, noiseembryo, etc.)

Any help will be very appreciated. Thanks a lot

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Post by felixer » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:47 am

if you can diy there is this very nice ringmod chip: ad633, farnell now makes an easy to use board http://de.farnell.com/analog-devices/ad ... Gwodqb0AqA
it sounds very clean, which i think is what you want. even if you are doing 'harsh noise'
don't need midi, don't need keys, just want knobs and cables (all together now ;-)

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Post by Bataserpa » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:27 pm

Thanks for the tip Felixer
The problem is that i can not diy. So an assembled module is the only option for me.

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Post by felixer » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:33 pm

too bad, methinks it really does pay (and not only financially) to be able to make your own gear ...
the doepfer ringmod isn't bad. nothing sensational (and not quite as clean as a well built ad633) but ok, esp for the money!
don't need midi, don't need keys, just want knobs and cables (all together now ;-)

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Erica Synths - Fusion Ring Modulator V2

Post by Luis » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:13 am

microphone --> mutable instruments ears --> erica synths fusion ring modulator

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Post by Jasonic » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:42 am

The Fold by Synthrotek has a built in ring modulator, and you also get a wave folder. The kit is rather easy to build. Or you can get it assembled. If you go with a Disting you will find a ringmod and much more.

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Post by PapaLazarou » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:14 pm

Are you not considering pedals? Only modules?

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Post by felixer » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:49 am

the line6 M5 (and prob others in that series) has a potent freq.modulator. works really well. i even sold myold ems one a i don't need it anymore.
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Post by Bataserpa » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:38 am

Definitely pedals are an option, actually at this time more than modules, because my case is full and i have a ADDAC pedal integrator there.

I will check the Line6 M5 but recently the Way Huge Ring Worm pedal got my attention. Too bad the most videos i found in the net are with guitars, not many with synths. Does anybody have some experience with this pedal?

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Post by MindMachine » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:06 am

Frostwave Blue Ringer. Best RM pedal ever. If you can find one - buy it.

For Euro modules score an Oakley RM.

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Post by Permafrost » Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:34 pm

Hello Bataserpa,
What about the Ring Thing from Electro-Harmonix ? Unfortunately it can not be build into a Eurorack housing, but it is an amazing machine !
The oscillator can easily be tuned to an input tone.
It has are three inputs: Instrument, Modulation and Expression. If you use it for pitch-shifting, the expression-input can be connected to an expressionpedal, but the amount of shifting can also be controlled by CV.
The output is mono, for normal ringmodulation. But it is also possible to have separate outputs for upper- and lower sidebands.
Greetings, Permafrost.

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Post by Bataserpa » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:05 pm

Thanks Permafrost. I will try out the ring thing. I only heard good thinks about this pedal.

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Post by ryangaston » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:11 pm

Bataserpa

I can very much recommend the Ring Thing. CV-friendly, separate carrier and modulator inputs, and a lot of other random cool tricks (also one of the best pitch shifters i've ever owned, even for polyphonic material).

I had that and a Moog MF102 at the same time—preferred the general sound of the 102 but the capabilities of the Ring Thing are pretty dang awesome
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Post by thetwlo » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:41 pm

EHX Ring thing and the Frequency Analyzer are both great, only have the vintage Freq Analyzer, but the newer ones should be similar.
It was actually Nakahara of Violent Onsen Geisha that turned me on to to the Freq Analyzer at a noise fest (w/ Merzbow) in '95.

In Euro, the Oakley RM-4014 or a passive one like the first MakeNoise Moddemod or CGS.

Lovetone Ringstinger? Seems like a great pedal, many say it's king, didn't grab one but the clone doesn't look too hard to build.

Oh, the rare, Technosaurus Effexon is another fav! great parametric EQ and overdrive!

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Post by spilthyfred » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:59 am

Have you checked out the Metasonix RK3?

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Post by EATyourGUITAR » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:44 pm

A ring modulator has 2 inputs. Sometimes a ring mod pedal or module comes with a sine oscillator to fill up the second input. The frostwave is the best ringmod pedal I have ever had the pleasure of using. It does not color the sound, no noise, no carrier bleed. They will go up in value. If you find one just buy it. There are a lot of ring mod modules on modulargrid. I have a guess that a lot of them are AD633. Hand matched germanium diodes, transformers...these are luxury vintage parts. After that it was either discrete transistor Gilbert cells, or MC1496. These are all obsolete now. You will most likely see AD633 or something digital.

If you are doing all square waves as the two inputs then you can ring mod them with an xor logic module. You don't even need a ring modulator for that. How decent it is depends on how digital your inputs are.
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