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Post by DJFonzi » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:00 pm

Does this thing store sequences?

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Post by dslocum » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:08 pm

DJFonzi wrote:Does this thing store sequences?
Only the current sequence is stored in EEPROM, but I'll ask Scott what he thinks about multiple sequences. Good idea.
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Post by dslocum » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:46 am

Guys,

All pre-orders are shipping today. Enjoy!
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Post by steffengrondahl » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:51 am

Mine has already shipped :party:

As DKFonzi suggest, storing multiple sequencers might be a very valuable update for a version 2.

Another though: If you take the gate out and OR it with the accent out (for instance with a Q961 sequencer interface) you can easily make long gate times. Worth trying out.

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Post by josaka » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:55 am

multiple sequences.. ability to switch between them? and sequence directions?

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Post by sduck » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:41 pm

No. None of that.

It's a brilliant, beautiful 5U version of the Div6 business card sequencer - if you went to Knobcon in 2015(?) you might have gotten the original version for free. It's since been spun into a great little dual sequencer in euro format -

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... but people need to realize that this is a relatively inexpensive, no frills, very basic sequencer. The list of things it can't do is far longer than it's capabilities, depending on how deep your knowledge of sequencers is. It CAN be a formidable tool if used judiciously however! Just don't expect it to replace your 960's and such.

Keep in mind that Scott has previously designed the Archangel sequencer, so it's not like he can't design a deep sequencer.

What would be a really great sequencer to port to 5U would be the Westlicht Performer - it's about as deeply featured as they come, and has a relatively nice user interface.

Waiting on the JLR video - if I recall correctly he teased one on instagram about this sequencer.
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Post by dslocum » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:16 pm

I wasn't familiar with the Westlicht Performer sequencer project. Great find!

Assuming enough $$$ interest - I would consider doing a 5U version, but I'm not smart enough to put all the pieces in place. I would need help - if anyone is interested in collaborating.

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Post by sduck » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:56 pm

I'm kind of a sequencer junky, I've got dozens of them, but the Performer has become my favorite. It's got all the stuff I want, and is immediate enough to use fairly quickly - it was designed to be used for performing, so although it can be menu-divey, once you get the hang of things, it's really intuitive. And you can play asteroids on it!

There are several issues - it's got an odd license situation - I think it's some variety of non-commercial, so you'd have to work out something with the designer. Although from what i've heard he's very approachable. It would probably need to be 4U wide. You could probably keep the controls and display part of it the same as the euro layout and have it work, but you might want to fly the jacks in a different arrangement - they kind of wrap around the top and side currently, for 5U I'd think you want them on the bottom.
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Post by josaka » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:39 am

this diy effort is pretty deep.. a top spec sequencer for the modern age :)
some of what it does..
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https://www.midiphy.com/en/shop/119/MID ... uencer-v4+

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Post by dslocum » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:16 pm

I love what the MidiBox stuff folks come up with. It's a REALLY creative community.

I'd love to offer the folks who don't / can't do DIY options, but...

The problem is that the license is STRICTLY non-commercial. So I can't make anything commercial, based on the license.

While I "get" the intent, there really ARE folks out there that want these creative options, but unfortunately have nowhere to go to get them. Sad. :despair:

Can anyone suggest a licensing middle ground ?
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Post by josaka » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:38 am

yep its crazy all that effort made ...the five12 vector sequencer has very similar features for their offering..


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Post by steffengrondahl » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:36 am

Screens and menus are totally turn down for me :youkids:

BTW: JLR has published a robotic demo on his instagram profile (dont know how to link to it :help: ).

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Post by tobb » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:32 pm

This is a very nice module!
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Post by sduck » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:40 pm

Here's JLR's instagram video -
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Post by steffengrondahl » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:11 am

sduck wrote:Here's JLR's instagram video -
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I like the leds show which note is currently played.

And now the questions is: Will I have my module before Christmas? Please, please (where is the Santa emoticon?)

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Post by kindredlost » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:11 am

steffengrondahl wrote:...I like the leds show which note is currently played.
That is a pretty cool feature. I am always using a tuner to re-check the sequencer notes when composing. That is a really nice time saver.

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Post by sduck » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:07 pm

...and JLR posted another video this morning -
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Post by Scottzilla » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:12 pm

Hey all. I'm glad you're digging the sequencer. I really like what Doug did with it!

I do have to clear one thing up: Joe Grisso designed the Archangel sequencer, not me. I guess we look similar and have similar company names... We're different people I swear! I did code the SQ816 sequencer though.

Also, a trigger reset is possible using an external mixer. Here's how on the Eurorack version. Would be the same for 5U:

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Post by steffengrondahl » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:36 pm

Scottzilla wrote: I do have to clear one thing up: Joe Grisso designed the Archangel sequencer, not me. I guess we look similar and have similar company names... We're different people I swear! I did code the SQ816 sequencer though.
The SQ816. Is it the one Mattson did for his mini modular?
Scottzilla wrote:Also, a trigger reset is possible using an external mixer. Here's how on the Eurorack version. Would be the same for 5U:
Great :tu: I guess you can also use a gate OR'ing module like the Q961 sequential interface. Didn't thought about this possibility. I have a couple of Q961's right above where the Mini Sequencer is going to be :)

And BTW: Thanks for designing a simple but cool 8-) module and let Doug build it in MU :hail:

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Post by Scottzilla » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:40 pm

steffengrondahl wrote:
Scottzilla wrote: I do have to clear one thing up: Joe Grisso designed the Archangel sequencer, not me. I guess we look similar and have similar company names... We're different people I swear! I did code the SQ816 sequencer though.
The SQ816. Is it the one Mattson did for his mini modular?
Yup, that's the one! (There is a Eurorack version too)
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Scottzilla wrote:Also, a trigger reset is possible using an external mixer. Here's how on the Eurorack version. Would be the same for 5U:
Great :tu: I guess you can also use a gate OR'ing module like the Q961 sequential interface. Didn't thought about this possibility. I have a couple of Q961's right above where the Mini Sequencer is going to be :)
Totes. That should do the trick.
steffengrondahl wrote: And BTW: Thanks for designing a simple but cool 8-) module and let Doug build it in MU :hail:
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Post by Dob » Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:58 am

Interesting module, also because of the minimum real estate :hihi:

How does switching between edit and run mode work?
I'm very used to keeping all my modular sequencers run while editing.

I mean, if you clock it externally, and you've been stopped because of some editing, and you want to start it again, will it start listening to clock input again when started? I mean, does start/stop enable /disable external clock input, when given?
And will it start from the active step, or start from scratch?

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Post by steffengrondahl » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:39 pm

As far as I understand the answer is ...
Dob wrote:I mean, if you clock it externally, and you've been stopped because of some editing, and you want to start it again, will it start listening to clock input again when started?
yes
Dob wrote:I mean, does start/stop enable /disable external clock input, when given?
yes
Dob wrote:And will it start from the active step, or start from scratch?
the active step

But these are guesses. I will be able to tell when I receive it (perhaps before Christmas). Perhaps Doug can chime in?

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Re: SSL - New Mini Sequencer

Post by dslocum » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:13 am

Here's another awesome and dare I say, somewhat more polished video by our friend JLR! Quote - "I really enjoy it and have fun with it."

I really like the little composition at the end! :goo: :sb: :party:

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Post by kindredlost » Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:41 pm

Yep. That JLR video was the straw for me and I had to order one. I might be up for another after I play with it for a while.

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Post by dslocum » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:51 pm

So, did you get yours yet?
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