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Post by Uncopyrightable » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:06 pm

Holy crap!

First pass playing with this thing... and one hell of a learning curve as to what does what and when it will do what to what n shit...

But, managed to diddle a little doodle.

Flight, I love you man!

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BugBrand Board Weevil plugged into VCO CV :deadbanana:

recorded str8 into fraudacity, no effects

http://share.ovi.com/media/Uncopyrighta ... able.10018

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Post by Kent » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:04 pm

That thing is frickin' retarded! But in a cool way.

Would love to see a video in order to attempt to grok WTF is going on there.

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Post by Uncopyrightable » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:22 pm

I'll try and youtube somethin up for ya

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Post by Kent » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:56 pm

:nana:

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Post by Uncopyrightable » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:56 pm

Well, I think this should work...

[video][/video]

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Post by wetterberg » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:05 pm

:yay: :sb: :goo: :omg:

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Post by Luka » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:02 pm

those cases are great
are they a custom build flight?

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Post by DGTom » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:08 pm

:woah:

its like a noisestra! Wicked loopy squarewaves!

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Post by VanEck » Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:51 pm

Is this one of the original builds, or the new version?
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Post by flight » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:34 am

Sorry everybody, I've been busy finishing the last INM order and with the jack group buy.

@ Uncopyrightable: I'm glad you like it! Thanks for posting all this.

I admit that the interface is NOT intuitive (I still haven't had time to do a manual for these), but I think it forces the user to abandon preconceptions and experiment.
A few tips:
Tone: The Noise generator has two output amplifiers - a boost/buffer and an LPF, the Tone knob controls the mix between these two outputs. The phase relationship between these two outputs varies depending on the Noise frequency; sometimes in phase, sometimes 90°, sometimes 180°, aand everything in between.
Domain: One is the highest frequency range (often inaudible), Four is the lowest. When modulating the VCO, the greater effect is when the VCO and the Noise frequencies are closer together - i.e., the effect is minimal when the VCO is in the bass range and the Noise Domain is in One.
The One Domain is where you will find the oddest/most ethereal Noises: static, wind, the impression of voices. It has a lot of what seem to be dead spots, but it is worth the time to wander the Domain and see what can be found.
Width: I had already used the words "Range" and "Domain", so "Width" was the best word I could think of for these. "Width" is actually the range of the Fine controls, or how "wide" of a portion of the Domain that the Fine controls cover. Think "bandwidth". This is variable because of the logarithmic nature of our hearing. A small change in the One Domain would be a huge sweep in the Four Domain. The INM is much more touchy than the Plague Bearer, with many, many more sweet spots, so I wanted the ability to really dial them in.
Luka wrote: those cases are great
are they a custom build flight?
Thanks! The basic case is from Teko, but I had to do quite a bit of modification. They come with molded standoffs inside that are at an angle (and are therefore useless), so I had to remove all of them. They also do not have any cutouts, so I have to make the openings for the back panel.
I actually do not like these cases. At all. They're just (once again) the only ones I have found that have the right dimensions. I'm looking into getting better (or, "more like what I want") ones made.
VanEck wrote: Is this one of the original builds, or the new version?
Um, I'll call it "a new version of the original build". :oops:
Most of these units were sold back in October-November of last year, and were supposed to have been shipped around December-January. What actually happened was the beginning of the longest running Murphy's Law clusterfuck that I have ever heard of.
So, while I was either waiting for parts or waiting for the rail car to not be underwater anymore or returning the wrong parts and waiting for the right parts or having my parts order cancelled and then lost and then waiting for a factory to make more, and so on, I kept re-designing the whole thing. There is actually very little in there that is as the original was.
The INM was the first project I worked on and I had zero freaking clue what the hell I was doing, so there was much to it that I did not like. And as the build dragged on and on, I just could not accept sending out something that felt half-assed to me.
I am now very pleased with the INM functionality-wise. I'd like to add in a few more bells and whistles, but there isn't enough room in this design.
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Post by Luka » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:01 am

flight wrote:Thanks! The basic case is from Teko, but I had to do quite a bit of modification. They come with molded standoffs inside that are at an angle (and are therefore useless), so I had to remove all of them. They also do not have any cutouts, so I have to make the openings for the back panel.
I actually do not like these cases. At all. They're just (once again) the only ones I have found that have the right dimensions. I'm looking into getting better (or, "more like what I want") ones made. .
i know what you mean
ive been looking around for pre-made cases for a bunch of desktop projects im building and im really finding it hard to find cool ones with the right dimensions. it is all about lesser of evils at the moment. im so close to just getting my own ones fabricated at the metal shop but still hoping to find an easier option

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Post by Uncopyrightable » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:56 am

Had to be done, last for now.

[video][/video]

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Post by wetterberg » Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:21 pm

Luka wrote:i know what you mean
ive been looking around for pre-made cases for a bunch of desktop projects im building and im really finding it hard to find cool ones with the right dimensions. it is all about lesser of evils at the moment.
just put it all in your modular instead! :yay:

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Post by Luka » Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:25 pm

this is for all the phasers and chorus effects
so i think it is valid that they are not in the modular

no my modular is limited capacity (otherwise ill be building forever)
no more

if i keep building stuff i might move into sculpture
i think all the soldering is bad for you health

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Post by flight » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:01 am

Aww, come on. Just switch to wire-wrap then!
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Post by droolmaster0 » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:00 am

Kent wrote:That thing is frickin' retarded! But in a cool way.

Would love to see a video in order to attempt to grok WTF is going on there.
This one is MINE now - at least in a week or so.

The ironic thing is that I am also retarded in a cool way.

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Post by Kent » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:30 am

Shit... nobody's told about that 'cool' part actually not being so? :lol:

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Post by droolmaster0 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:36 pm

Received. Puzzled. Printing out some notes from earlier in the thread....

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Post by droolmaster0 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:33 am

ah - takes a bit to get oriented. It is now making pleasing tones.

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Post by Kent » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:04 am

droolmaster0 wrote:... It is now making pleasing tones.
Then you are using it incorrectly! :foh:

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Post by SPUDBOY WILSON » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:48 pm

My IHM .....
I down loaded the manual from F.O.H.

I'm still working on the KCP Glamour Box

In the manual the Doctor says that plugging "things" into the aux in ,
to maximize the INM. We shall see

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Post by suboptimal » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:08 pm

Are folks feeding CV from their Euro into the INM? I'm wondering what people are finding works. I got to spend about an hour with my brand new second hand INM last night and was having mixed results. The Noise Ring into the external input made for interesting times, but the other CV inputs appeared to do nothing.

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Post by flight » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:51 pm

suboptimal wrote:Are folks feeding CV from their Euro into the INM? I'm wondering what people are finding works. I got to spend about an hour with my brand new second hand INM last night and was having mixed results. The Noise Ring into the external input made for interesting times, but the other CV inputs appeared to do nothing.
Just to make sure: do you have the CV input attenuators turned all the way CW? Treat them as CV volume controls.
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Post by suboptimal » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:14 am

I've been playing with the CV attenuators but without much luck, but after another session last night (that has me completely wiped out today!) I suspect that I wasn't within one of the pockets where the different controls clash so ... infernally. The "width" controls are quite interesting.

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Post by flight » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:51 am

Ah yes, it does take some time to figure out where the different controls have greatest effect. Where did you get your INM? I know that there is one out there that needs a small modification to get it sounding right - the input signal to the filter is WAY too strong, so the filter doesn't really seem to do anything. I believe that one went to England originally.
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