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Post by BugBrand » Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:22 pm

I wouldn't have put the switches on if I didn't think them necessary!

Would push this ahead, but again experiencing poor performance from people making PCB panels - so having to hunt around *again*.

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Post by shred » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:23 am

any updates on this? the more I think about it the more I want it!
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Post by BugBrand » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:42 am

I ordered panels (trying a new place again) so need to push the circuit board order through before too long.

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Post by shred » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:54 am

thanks, Tom! looking forward to it
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Post by T. Jervell » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:31 am

BugBrand wrote:I ordered panels (trying a new place again) so need to push the circuit board order through before too long.
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Post by dogoftears » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:02 pm

hm, this might be fun to use as a main audio mixer for inside the bug...
would be cool if you could fit jack outputs on there!

either way... it's one of the nicer matrix mixers i've seen.
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Post by Kafgee » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:24 pm

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Post by BugBrand » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:01 am

Boards due in imminently - though winding down for Christmas now.
There's also a 3 channel DC Mixer entering production too - a simpler little utility.

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Post by T. Jervell » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:43 am

BugBrand wrote:Boards due in imminently - though winding down for Christmas now.
There's also a 3 channel DC Mixer entering production too - a simpler little utility.
Great news! Hope you’ll have a nice Christmas!

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Post by syncretism » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:33 pm

BugBrand wrote:Boards due in imminently - though winding down for Christmas now.
There's also a 3 channel DC Mixer entering production too - a simpler little utility.
Hell, yes!

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Re: Matrix

Post by rmro » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:20 am

Will there be a way of using this standalone? I really hope so, been looking for something like this for while

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Post by batchas » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:56 pm

rmro wrote:
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Will there be a way of using this standalone? I really hope so, been looking for something like this for while
You can use anything as standalone, as you long as have a case to hold it and power for it, incl. GND connection.
Is this what you mean with standalone, using it outside of a BugBrand system, or you mean something else?
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Re: Matrix

Post by BugBrand » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:19 pm

rmro wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:20 am
Will there be a way of using this standalone? I really hope so, been looking for something like this for while
Yes, I was certainly presuming to offer some as standalone in my regular 5FW cases - as Batchas mentions, just ensure there's a common 0V between systems via the black 4mm socket on the rear, then you're good to go.

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Re: Matrix

Post by rmro » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:43 am

Thanks, yes exactly in a powered case would be ideal.

I don't have any modular banana gear, I primarily use Ciat Lonbarde instruments so a standalone mixer in a powered box I can move around is what I would want. I think this would be a nice addition.

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Re: Matrix

Post by lud » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:29 am

As a multi format banana synth nut I think it will excel as a standalone floating device. Can't wait!

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Re: Matrix

Post by syncretism » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:14 am

While this does look outstanding as designed, I think it would benefit from an expander module to incorporate 1/4" i/o. The inability to interface easily with the red modules would be a missed opportunity, IMHO.

That sort of interfacing makes the matrix mixer on the Vintage Voltron 6 invaluable: https://www.modulargrid.net/s/other-unk ... -voltron-6

Of course, with all those fabulous switches, there's likely no room on the panel, so an option a la the CrossOver FIlter's expander comes to mind.

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Re: Matrix

Post by /\/\/\/ » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:22 pm

syncretism wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:14 am
The inability to interface easily with the red modules would be a missed opportunity, IMHO.
Reds are line level, so one of these would get you happily back to banana 10V world:
https://www.bugbrand.co.uk/index.php?ma ... 8a83455ae3

That being said... the DRM2 output seems pretty generous with the level. I usually have it set about 9 o'clock position. With the pot at maximum, would the pre-amp module be necessary? Or would a simple passive format converter suffice?

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Post by syncretism » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:30 pm

Aye, I have one of those (and a format jumbler), but tabling the different levels for now (I find the preamps on the reds are quite effective at booting and attenuating), one runs out of space on the tabletop when relying on external boxes. A 2u expander panel even would be swell, and it could inherit all the electrical connections from the matrix mixer.
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I don't think there's anything much like this and it is actually happening - out soon.
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Re: Matrix

Post by BugBrand » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:30 pm

There won't be a direct expander - read through the thread for a bit of an overview of why I moved away from 1/4" and the necessary preamps / gain controls etc. By the way, it is DC coupled and is made with quality opamps & 0.1% resistors.
There's nothing particular to say you can't mix line level signals with modular - but I didn't want to add complexity here.

Could easily be put in a frame with one of more Dual Preamps for inputs and then perhaps a DIY interface/adaptor panel (might sometime do a proper one but I personally always use interface cables).

Guess I can't win all options but I don't think there's anything much like this and it is actually happening - out soon.
[saying that I was again let down by UK PCB panel company so have only limited good panels for now]
Price likely to be around £300 (exc. VAT) as a module.

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Re: Matrix

Post by syncretism » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:52 pm

Tom,

"Expander" or no, it'll be a must-have; I've been looking forward to this one for a long, long while!

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Re: Matrix

Post by T. Jervell » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:17 pm

I’ll start saving up for this! I really like the design, and LOVE that there are banana ins and outs! For my use, within my Bug-modular it makes a lot of sense.
Nice work Tom, looking forward :nana:

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Re: Matrix

Post by Kafgee » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:22 am

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Re: Matrix

Post by thermisonic » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:55 am

this looks great, been wanting to play with a matrix mixer for a while now. standalone would be good for me if that's an option.

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Re: Matrix

Post by BugBrand » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:58 am

Will begin building next week most likely - January has been tidy/catch-up, but finishes tomorrow (the month, of course.. does one ever get fully caught up?!)

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Re: Matrix

Post by castano » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:06 pm

nice! :yay:

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