I've been saying it wrong for so long!BugBrand wrote: not 1/8" (they're not)
Chirper!
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We Americans love our imperial measurements, even if they're wrongBugBrand wrote:Yes, Rowsbywoof got it - though a couple of tech terms I'd refer differently to: Minijack (or 3.5mm) not 1/8" (they're not) --- and call it establishing a common 0V between equipment rather than grounding.
I do do Interface Cables but equally easy to DIY. Personally I've always been happy with cables rather than converter boxes/modules, but that's maybe just me.
The key is to establish a common 0V between the external gear (eg. Engine) and the Bug. Do this with the black cable of the twin interface cable - this goes from minijack sleeve and plugs to the black 0V banana on the back of the Bug. Once that 0V link has been established you can do further signal connections just with single cables (from the same piece of equipment).
(Oh yeah, and just re-checked and it is at least mentioned on the instruction sheet!)

Thanks Tom, yes you did include this info in the instructions but I'm an absolute beginner with banana plugs so I needed a bit more confirmation to be confident. I'm sure 99% of your customers wouldn't need to ask this question, but it's great to have a place like muffs where I can do so without feeling stupid and also getting clear answers from experienced users, even directly from creators like yourself!BugBrand wrote:(Oh yeah, and just re-checked and it is at least mentioned on the instruction sheet!)
It is very much a repeating question - seems so complex..bmot wrote:Thanks Tom, yes you did include this info in the instructions but I'm an absolute beginner with banana plugs so I needed a bit more confirmation to be confident. I'm sure 99% of your customers wouldn't need to ask this question, but it's great to have a place like muffs where I can do so without feeling stupid and also getting clear answers from experienced users, even directly from creators like yourself!BugBrand wrote:(Oh yeah, and just re-checked and it is at least mentioned on the instruction sheet!)
Always happy to answer!
Made a few cables today with the help of the advice here and happy to say it’s all working perfectly and sounding pretty amazing. Sequencing is working and this instrument is proper roast beefy!
I’ve just discovered the joy of stacking bananas for my first time too.
I tried the screw in bananas first but the contact seemed intermittent, so I went the soldered route instead. Maybe I was doing something wrong, or have other people had problems with the screw in plugs (the screw is supposed to hold down the cable contact to the banana plug)
I’ve just discovered the joy of stacking bananas for my first time too.
I tried the screw in bananas first but the contact seemed intermittent, so I went the soldered route instead. Maybe I was doing something wrong, or have other people had problems with the screw in plugs (the screw is supposed to hold down the cable contact to the banana plug)
If intermittent then the wire might be too thin I think.bmot wrote:I tried the screw in bananas first but the contact seemed intermittent, so I went the soldered route instead. Maybe I was doing something wrong, or have other people had problems with the screw in plugs (the screw is supposed to hold down the cable contact to the banana plug)
Could also depend which banana you are using.
In my experience it might happen that a wire get loose, but it's rare.
Pers. I wrap the wire first (even only 1 turn) on the metal barrel.
Actually I do use jacks which don't even have a screw. They hold because there's a hole and a small slot nearby where it's possible to wrap the wire befroe it enters the hole. And then there's as well the form of the plastic around which hold the cable. I mean the cable goes out vertically, the wire is wrapped horizontally on the barrel. So it holds pretty well. And I pull the banana by holding the jack, other way I think it would not hold so well as I describe it.
You have finally arrived! There's no way back now!bmot wrote:I’ve just discovered the joy of stacking bananas for my first time too.
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Regarding making cables - yeah a lot depends on which plugs you use. I tried a few and only really liked the old Rapid ones as shown in the Oops My Banana sticky thread. As with many things, try a few and find what works for you - but I was always very happy with those particular screw ones.
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Yes the Chirper is just a super versatile and nice instrument/module. I often find myself using one of the osc’s for clocking and modulation duties in big patches. Having the Chirpers osc’s wired internally to both my DDSR, and Quad Divider is really neat. Also I really like the tone of the oscillators, and the huge range from lfo to audio rate being sweapable and not requiring a switch. This and the fact that the interface is very well thought out, makes it a very, very playable instrument. The way I’ve been using it lately turns it into the beating heart of the patch AND it also opens up for quick changes in the patch and works great as a controller of sorts. Also slowly opening the attenuators and letting the two oscillators modulate each other (and the filter) when a patch/Sequence gets a bit tiresome/boring gives instant and WONDERFUL results!!
The only thing I kinda sometimes miss, is an envelope/amp, and the possibility to use the filter to process external audio. But then again I always have some blue ones if I’m in need...
So yeah! A big fan of the Chirper here. I had NO idea that I would be sooo happy with it. I knew it would be fun, but now it’s one of the first modules I reach for when I fire up the system.
The only thing I kinda sometimes miss, is an envelope/amp, and the possibility to use the filter to process external audio. But then again I always have some blue ones if I’m in need...
So yeah! A big fan of the Chirper here. I had NO idea that I would be sooo happy with it. I knew it would be fun, but now it’s one of the first modules I reach for when I fire up the system.
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Well I sure hope you’ll get around to investigate this furtherBugBrand wrote:I did get a prototype design done, but once building discovered I'd managed to swap the position of two inter-board headers and that brought along lots of tricky gremlins which have not yet been dealt with.T. Jervell wrote:..The only thing I kinda sometimes miss, is an envelope/amp, ..

If it’s the design/draft I saw a couple of months ago, it looked like a very nice addition indeed...
But looking at your Twitter feed I guess you’ve got other joys on your hands at the moment

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Oooohhh!! Intriguing.... looking forward to see what you’ve got in store nextBugBrand wrote:Not exactly actually - I wasn't expecting those until late December, so boards aren't ready. But I have something else interesting arriving this week...T. Jervell wrote:..But looking at your Twitter feed I guess you’ve got other joys on your hands at the moment

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BugBrand wrote:I have something else interesting arriving this week...

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While we contemplate other "interesting things" for the future, I'm toying with an additional row for my trusty little portable system. Just getting started with it. The idea is to get the DDSR involved but stick to what's simple and playable. There's another complication in the works but we'll save that for another day.
Sound


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BananaPlug wrote:There's another complication in the works but we'll save that for another day.

BananaPlug wrote:Sound

I love the pictures of your portable system(s) that you're posting.
As well of these sounds!!!
I wish friends would share here more videos or sound snippets made with their BugBrand gear.
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Excellent sounds as always BP! How do you deal with power distribution on these hybrid frames? (if there's already a post somewhere apologies)
I'm still playing phisynth's last video all the time!
Sorry, once I have moved house, and got the Bugbrand Compilations pressed and sent out, I am hoping to have the time to set up my new space to leave a camera constantly set up and make more vids. I'm really behind with everything right now, it's really trying my patiencebatchas wrote: I wish friends would share here more videos or sound snippets made with their BugBrand gear.

I'm still playing phisynth's last video all the time!
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