Matrix

[BugBrand]

I wouldn't have put the switches on if I didn't think them necessary!

Would push this ahead, but again experiencing poor performance from people making PCB panels - so having to hunt around *again*.

[shred]

any updates on this? the more I think about it the more I want it!

[BugBrand]

I ordered panels (trying a new place again) so need to push the circuit board order through before too long.

[shred]

thanks, Tom! looking forward to it

[T. Jervell]

I ordered panels (trying a new place again) so need to push the circuit board order through before too long.

[dogoftears]

hm, this might be fun to use as a main audio mixer for inside the bug...
would be cool if you could fit jack outputs on there!

either way... it's one of the nicer matrix mixers i've seen.

[Kafgee]

[BugBrand]

Boards due in imminently - though winding down for Christmas now.
There's also a 3 channel DC Mixer entering production too - a simpler little utility.

[T. Jervell]

Boards due in imminently - though winding down for Christmas now.
There's also a 3 channel DC Mixer entering production too - a simpler little utility.

Great news! Hope you’ll have a nice Christmas!

[syncretism]

Boards due in imminently - though winding down for Christmas now.
There's also a 3 channel DC Mixer entering production too - a simpler little utility.

Hell, yes!

[rmro]

Will there be a way of using this standalone? I really hope so, been looking for something like this for while

[batchas]

Will there be a way of using this standalone? I really hope so, been looking for something like this for while

You can use anything as standalone, as you long as have a case to hold it and power for it, incl. GND connection.
Is this what you mean with standalone, using it outside of a BugBrand system, or you mean something else?

[BugBrand]

Will there be a way of using this standalone? I really hope so, been looking for something like this for while

Yes, I was certainly presuming to offer some as standalone in my regular 5FW cases - as Batchas mentions, just ensure there's a common 0V between systems via the black 4mm socket on the rear, then you're good to go.

[rmro]

Thanks, yes exactly in a powered case would be ideal.

I don't have any modular banana gear, I primarily use Ciat Lonbarde instruments so a standalone mixer in a powered box I can move around is what I would want. I think this would be a nice addition.

[lud]

As a multi format banana synth nut I think it will excel as a standalone floating device. Can't wait!

[syncretism]

While this does look outstanding as designed, I think it would benefit from an expander module to incorporate 1/4" i/o. The inability to interface easily with the red modules would be a missed opportunity, IMHO.

That sort of interfacing makes the matrix mixer on the Vintage Voltron 6 invaluable: https://www.modulargrid.net/s/other-unk ... -voltron-6

Of course, with all those fabulous switches, there's likely no room on the panel, so an option a la the CrossOver FIlter's expander comes to mind.

[/\/\/\/]

The inability to interface easily with the red modules would be a missed opportunity, IMHO.

Reds are line level, so one of these would get you happily back to banana 10V world:
https://www.bugbrand.co.uk/index.php?ma ... 8a83455ae3

That being said... the DRM2 output seems pretty generous with the level. I usually have it set about 9 o'clock position. With the pot at maximum, would the pre-amp module be necessary? Or would a simple passive format converter suffice?

[syncretism]

Aye, I have one of those (and a format jumbler), but tabling the different levels for now (I find the preamps on the reds are quite effective at booting and attenuating), one runs out of space on the tabletop when relying on external boxes. A 2u expander panel even would be swell, and it could inherit all the electrical connections from the matrix mixer.

I don't think there's anything much like this and it is actually happening - out soon.

How soon is wowwwwwwwwww

[BugBrand]

There won't be a direct expander - read through the thread for a bit of an overview of why I moved away from 1/4" and the necessary preamps / gain controls etc. By the way, it is DC coupled and is made with quality opamps & 0.1% resistors.
There's nothing particular to say you can't mix line level signals with modular - but I didn't want to add complexity here.

Could easily be put in a frame with one of more Dual Preamps for inputs and then perhaps a DIY interface/adaptor panel (might sometime do a proper one but I personally always use interface cables).

Guess I can't win all options but I don't think there's anything much like this and it is actually happening - out soon.
[saying that I was again let down by UK PCB panel company so have only limited good panels for now]
Price likely to be around £300 (exc. VAT) as a module.

[syncretism]

Tom,

"Expander" or no, it'll be a must-have; I've been looking forward to this one for a long, long while!

[T. Jervell]

I’ll start saving up for this! I really like the design, and LOVE that there are banana ins and outs! For my use, within my Bug-modular it makes a lot of sense.
Nice work Tom, looking forward

[Kafgee]

put me in the list

[thermisonic]

this looks great, been wanting to play with a matrix mixer for a while now. standalone would be good for me if that's an option.

Rob

[BugBrand]

Will begin building next week most likely - January has been tidy/catch-up, but finishes tomorrow (the month, of course.. does one ever get fully caught up?!)

[castano]

nice!