Anyone? Acidlab Miami users here? Samples?

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Anyone? Acidlab Miami users here? Samples?

Post by theabsent » Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:57 pm

I'm thinking to get the Miami. But the samples on their site and on ytube are poor quality. I loved my 808 but had to sell it when I was a poor student at the university. I've missed it since.

I would love to hear clean samples without any effects / compression etc. Especially interested in classic 808-samples like early hiphop and house sounds.
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Post by theabsent » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:14 pm

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Post by Kendall Station » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:37 pm

I've played one but have no samples....it sounds very good and very close to the original and then some (but not too much some, iykwim). the sequencer is great great great.

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Post by theabsent » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:32 pm

How about any sound? Don't need to be hiphop.

But uncompressed / without effects!
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Post by nadafarms » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:02 pm

it don't sound as good as an 808

I had one and sold it, for only a couple hundred more got a real 808 and would never go back. The sequencer is cool, the buttons feel cheap but hey they all work.

biggest downfall is pretty major, the snare doesn't receive enough noise input so it's not nearly as snappy as it's suppose to be. Also the clap is very quiet about 65% the volume of an 808 clap. These two things are a major major flaw because the backbeat is so important on a drum machine. Between the quiet clap and lack of snap in the snare it drove me crazy.

now the miami toms/congas do sound better than the 808 IMO and the kick is great, hats are pretty great, clave, rim, cowbell, cymbal all pretty nice! If you can live with the poor snare and clap you'll love it.

Still there is something about the rawness of the 808 circuits that is lacking in the miami, the miami just sounds a little too smooth or something. The 808 breathes more and there is more natural overdrive in the signal and especially when the accent is cranked on the 808 everything distorts a little bit and it's magic.

I think the miami should just be more like $800-1000 If he comes out with a mkII with the snare/clap issue fixed and a bunch of mods for controlling the sounds I'll totally buy it... but as of now not so much when I have a 808/909 combo 8_)

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Post by theabsent » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:28 pm

Based on the samples on their site, I think it's not very close to the real 808. But those samples are quite poor quality. That's why I would love to hear some samples.

I see they are about the same price in the US. But the Miami is quite a bit cheaper than a real thing here in Europe. And it's not 30 years old with 30 years old used parts in it. That's why I'm considering it.
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Post by theabsent » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:35 am

Noone here actually owns one?
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Post by Carey M » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:07 pm

I have one and I love it. I see if I can record some simple demos some time in the near future. Or, if you're ever in Turku, you're welcome to give my Miami a spin.

Oh yeah, first post... Hi everybody! :party:

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Post by theabsent » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:26 pm

Great news! Looking forward...
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Post by intellijel » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:19 am

nadafarms wrote:it don't sound as good as an 808
biggest downfall is pretty major, the snare doesn't receive enough noise input so it's not nearly as snappy as it's suppose to be. Also the clap is very quiet about 65% the volume of an 808 clap. These two things are a major major flaw because the backbeat is so important on a drum machine. Between the quiet clap and lack of snap in the snare it drove me crazy.
I e-mailed Klaus at Acidlab about this and he told me which trim pot inside the miami to adjust. It will increase noise level to the clap (making it louder) and the snare...this is the exact same control as found on a real tr-808.
I built an mb-808 before and I found the few trimpots on the circuit had major effects on how the snare, clap and cowbell sounded. This could also account for some of the big differences between individual real TR808's as well.

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Post by theabsent » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:48 am

Could you put the info here too?
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Post by intellijel » Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:22 am

the circuits are identical to the TR-808.
There is a poti to, that controlles the amount of noise, same as in the 808.
This is the noise for several instruments, and you change the loudness of the clap and the noise of the snare.

The poti you search is marked on the attached file.
Do not change any other setting!
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Post by theabsent » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:02 am

Cool. Thanks.
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miami examples

Post by Shagghie » Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:29 pm

how miami sounds 'in the mix':

http://highsage.bandcamp.com

At least half of those tracks are 100% miami on percussion... Was helpful to hear how stuff was sounding in actual context as opposed to just raw uncompressed samples that really can't/don't do ANY drum machine justice...

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Video of Acidlab Miami Noise Trimpot Adjustment

Post by Shagghie » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:16 am

Note. I did this adjustment last night and posted quicky vid with audio to hear the effects against snare/tom. Note that this also affects the noise to the Tom circuit which can make for some very wooley Toms!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbCifY3c ... d6f8d7dc16

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intellijel wrote:
the circuits are identical to the TR-808.
There is a poti to, that controlles the amount of noise, same as in the 808.
This is the noise for several instruments, and you change the loudness of the clap and the noise of the snare.

The poti you search is marked on the attached file.
Do not change any other setting!
Opening will void your garantee!

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Post by suitandtieguy » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:26 pm

maybe the trim should have been set kickass from the factory?
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Post by intellijel » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:27 pm

I just did the adjustment too and it sounds waaaay better! Clap and snare are both loud and full of character.

The toms sound a little noisier but not necessarily in a bad way.

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Post by NV » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:11 pm

suitandtieguy wrote:maybe the trim should have been set kickass from the factory?
Kinda like the Wave Folder? Badum bum zing.

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Post by suitandtieguy » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:28 pm

changing my trim values doesn't void your warantee
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Post by NV » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:45 pm

suitandtieguy wrote:changing my trim values doesn't void your warantee
You play your cards well, sir.

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Post by theabsent » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:10 am

Ok, I'll give you some update and info. I got to play with the Miami. Unfortunately I didn't record any samples. I know, I should have but I'm stupid.

Yes, it emulated 808 pretty nicely. (But as far as I can remember the days when I did have a real 808) the real one had way more balls.

I also think that the Miami is quite limited. Controls affect the sound too little. Some controls offer only a very very minor changes.

I a/b'd the Miami with Analogue Solutions Concussor 808 modules. Concussor beat the Miami hands down. Concussor did all what Miami did and MUCH more. Some of the Concussor modules have a HUGE range on their controls.
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Post by levka » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:54 pm

How about the Novation drumstation(s)?
Some people seem very happy with these as an 808 replacement.
Any opinions on these?

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Post by theabsent » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:27 pm

levka wrote:How about the Novation drumstation(s)?
Some people seem very happy with these as an 808 replacement.
Any opinions on these?
Nice machine on it's own but not a replacement for the 8 nor 9. It's not even analog...
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Post by stepwriterun » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:12 pm

I've had a drum station for probably 8 years and for at least the past 3-4 years I haven't touched it. It sounds fine but I think its usefulness has been surpassed by the d16 group VSTs drumazon and nepheton. The only thing the drum station has over the d16 VSTs is the din sync out - which only means something to someone who has a piece of hardware that uses din sync.

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Post by Hanz » Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:58 pm

OK, here's some samples and patterns from my Acidlab Miami.
Offsite link since it's not possible to upload here?
Anyway, here goes; http://www.synthforum.nl/forums/showpos ... tcount=167

I agree the snare and clap were initially somewhat 'tame' sounding - that is, before I did the described trimpot adjustments.
But after performing the procedure, I'm actually quite happy...

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