#List of rare and freaky synths and how you'd value them**

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#List of rare and freaky synths and how you'd value them**

Post by ghee hgt » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:52 pm

good day folks,
somehow i always ended up buying rare weird synths and never owned a roland, korg, moog, elektron... in my life.
it would be nice to find more of those rare gems, how many there are and what they cost approx.
corner criteria:
- less than 500 units produced
- no diy kits or noise/drone boxes(that would be another interesting list)
- no prototypes(there should be a chance to get them)
- only complete modular systems/no single modules
- estimated € value
- comment, experience



the list:
1. cweyman s1 mk1 mk2, approx. 200 units produced, €3.000-5.000
2. cweyman s2, approx. 25 units produced, ...
3. metasonix s1000, approx. 100 units produced, ...
4. l.l. electronics rozzbox v2, approx. 60 units produced, €1.600-2.500
5. l.l. electronics rozzbox one, approx. 300 units produced, €600-900
6. ensoniq fizmo rack, approx. 400 units produced, €700-1.300
7. gotharman demoon, approx. 150 units produced, €200-450
8. gotharman little deformer, approx. 200 units produced, €800-1.500
9. chimera synthesis bc16, approx. 200 units produced, €300-600
10. ciat lonbarde plumbutter and rollz, no further info
11. redsound elevata, approx. 250 units produced, €350-600
12. macbeth m5, no further info
13. rob hordijk blippo box, approx. 250 units produced, €400-700
14. folktek various, no further info
15. bugbrand old blue, 50-80 systems produced, ...
16. jomox resonator neuronium, approx. 25 units produced, €2.900-6.500
17. jomox sunsyn, approx. 150 units produced, €2.500-7.500
18. monome aleph, no further info
19. elektron sid station, approx. 400 units produced, €700-1.200
20. blue lantern dwarf star, approx. 100 units produced, €900-1.300
21. anyware instruments semtex, no further info
22. anyware instruments tinysizer, 123 units produced, ...
23. ekdahl polygamist, approx. 40 units produced, €1.200-1.700
24. buchla 200e, no further info
25. Synton Syrinx, no further info
26. Crumar Spirit, no further info
27. Korg PS-3200/3300, no further info
28. Sherman QMF, 95 units produced ...
29. technomage l.i.f.e.2, no further info
30. Peavey Paradox, approx. 4 units produced, €1.000
31. C.M.S. Modular, no further info
32. Synton Fénix 1, 2, 3, approx. 90 units, €5.500
33. wiard 300, no further info
34. synare ps1, no further info
35. GRP A4, 150 units produced, ...
36. leploop v1, 50 units produced, ...
37. EMS Synthi 100, 31 units produced, €35.000-50.000
38. moog taurus 1, no info on units, €3.000-4.000
39. meng qi squishable, no further info
40. hartmann neuron, no further info
41. driscoll panels, 10 units produced, €4.000
42. l.l.electronics oddulator, 3 units produced, no further info
43. macbeth m3x, approx. 300 units produced, €1.700
44. schmidt eightvoice, no further info
45. john bowen solaris, no info on units, €4.000
46. abildgard droid 3, no info on units, €160
47. top gear tg 55, 12 units produced, €1.700
48. arp 2500, no further info
49. metasonix pt-2, 13 units produced, ...
50. eml 100, 100 units produced, ...


thats it for the moment, there is a couple more hidden in my brain but not accessible at the moment...
those numbers i put down are either from manufactures i had contact with or multiple web mentions. prices are from ebay/marketplace observation or personal trade experience. it'll be interesting to see whats going up or down in the future.

cheers,

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Post by infradead » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:07 pm

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Post by Vootman » Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:57 pm

I wonder the same thing regarding pricing. For instance the Jomox Sunsyn is selling for almost 8000 US dollars. I would never pay that much, and at most I'd do 4000, but it is what it is. Same thing for the Fizmo Rack, way over priced, but I guess in both cases your paying for the rarity of the things.
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Post by vedicspaceprogram » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:26 pm

In the rare Cwejman department:

I recently saw a photo of a Cwejman S2. It's like an S1, but with no patching at least on the front. Apparently under 50 of these were made.

I own an S1 MK1 (serial #20). My understanding is that less than 50 were ever made of these.

A few more to add:

Anyware SEMtex

MacBeth M5

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Post by burnn_out! » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:32 pm

There's roughly 100 of the metasonix s1000 wretch machines fyi
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Post by ghee hgt » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:07 am

Vootman
wow, $8.000 for a susnsyn. i'll translate that to €7.500 as current max. the cheapest i saw one go on ebay was €2.500 a few years back. i guess we won't see it that cheap again.
vedicspaceprogram
thanks for that info. the current anyware moodulator looks nice to me.
burnn_out!
thanks for that info.

i used to own the gotharman demoon, redsound elevata, rob hordijk blippo.
i currently own the rozzbox v2, gotharman little deformer, chimera bc16.
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Post by windspirit » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:08 am

Seems a little weird to include the CL plumbutter when it's still in production, do you mean the V1?

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Post by ghee hgt » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:16 am

windspirit
weirdness this is about. the gotharman little deformer is in production too, but as with the plumbutter it is highly unlikely that there will ever be more than 500 of these built, since they are handbuilt and sold in very small quantities/batches.
can you provide further information regarding the plumbutter v1?

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Post by BugBrand » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:25 am

Funny - I only just rechristened the old bug-modular to 'Old Blue' a few days ago, so this is the first public pickup.

2009-2013 - roughly 50-80 systems put together (rarely sold as complete setups direct from me). Who knows how many exist now as there's always been a bit of buy&sell of modules.

I don't think I've ever made more than 500 of anything..

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Post by amnesia » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:03 am

Wow I was unaware how little of each item on the list had been made.

Also add to the list Buchla 200e?

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Post by flo » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:16 am

ghee hgt wrote:1. cweyman s1 mk1 mk2, approx. 50 units produced, ...
2. cweyman s2, approx. 50 units produced, ...
vedicspaceprogram wrote:In the rare Cwejman department:

I recently saw a photo of a Cwejman S2. It's like an S1, but with no patching at least on the front. Apparently under 50 of these were made.

I own an S1 MK1 (serial #20). My understanding is that less than 50 were ever made of these.
There are around a dozen or so of the S2, certainly not 50 of them. The patch points are at the back. It's a different synth than the S1 and, nomen est omen, the successor of the S1, not the other way around.

On the other hand, there must be more than 50 of the MK2 S1.

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Post by tron23 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:15 am

Some of my less than 100 category favorites I have used and/or owned:
Synton Syrinx
Crumar Spirit
Korg PS-3200/3300
Sherman QMF
Bugbrand BugCrusher

Value is always what you pay for in rare items I suppose. :hihi:

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Post by opsysbug » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:24 am

Driscoll panels
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Post by Jason Brock » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:31 am

Peavey Paradox - supposedly only 3 or 4 units made, never went into production. One came up on Ebay a few years ago, I can't remember how much it sold for. It wasn't a lot, maybe around $1,000.

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Post by renzo » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:40 am

C.M.S. Modular
Synton Fénix

What about Wiard? (not the one in Euro)
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Post by Samuron » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:51 am

I always wanted a Synare PS-1
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Post by zahush76 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:46 pm

GRP A4
Only 150 units made (don't recall if a forth batch of 50 is in production or not)


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Post by Nelson Baboon » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:10 pm

ghee hgt wrote:windspirit
weirdness this is about. the gotharman little deformer is in production too, but as with the plumbutter it is highly unlikely that there will ever be more than 500 of these built, since they are handbuilt and sold in very small quantities/batches.
can you provide further information regarding the plumbutter v1?
The really rare one was the huge thing that preceded the plumbutter 1. I think only a handful were made....wish I could remember the name, but can't right now. (ah - roolz gewei, I think)
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Post by Umcorps » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:26 pm

@ghee hgt I believe the Tinysizer run ended after 123 units.

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Post by depth20 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:16 pm

Leploop V1, about 50 units were made.

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Post by papz » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:43 pm

EMS Synthi 100, 31 units made.
Current price 35-50k ?
Great synth of course, a lot of infinities of possibilities but I rather play several small Synthis together than the 100, whose sound and behaviour are less wild and unpredicable (buffers, "enhanced" circuits, etc...).
It's not exactly designed for live use and direct patching, or very comfortable to play because of its size.
It also has separate matrices for audio and CV, unlike the Synthi A and VCS3 where you can patch anything to anything easily.

The Synthi E was also made in small quantity and has an interesting own character, despite way less versatile than a Synthi A.
Sells for too much today, I wouldn't give more than 2k for one in perfect condition, and it's already very expensive.
All units have an unplayable touchkeyboard because contacts are made of fax paper stripes, which got loose a long time ago.
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Post by Elephantbud » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:36 pm

Moog taurus I

D'ont know how many were made? Fattest synth I owned...
Bought It for 425€, sold it for 2000€ 10 years ago, current price is between 3000-4000€

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Post by ghee hgt » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:36 am

BugBrand
thanks for the info. the only bugs i ever owned were some weevils.
amnesia
how many buchla systems are out there approx.?
flo
thanks for the info. i uptaded to 25 and 75 units accordingly.
tron23
thanks for the info. i didn't add the bugcrusher, cause its fx only. i added the sherman qmf however cause its playable with cv. wow, the synton syrinx looks dope.
Jason Brock
thanks for the info. the peavey looks great too.
renzo
thanks for the info. wiard system added to list.
opsysbug
thanks for the info. couldn't find driscoll panels and b.o.b.. what is them? added l.i.f.e.2 only because the 1 seems drone box only.
Samuron
thanks for the info. i only kew the synare euro rips, the original looks awesome.
zahush76
thanks for the info. nice one.
Nelson Baboon
yeah, flemming did a couple of protos which didn't make it into production like the original deformer as well. meng qi is doing some kind of ciat lombarde rollz circuitry. i added rollz to plumbutter on list and checked the plumbutter website but couldn't find any further info.
Umcorps
thanks for the info.
depth20
thanks for the info. what about the leploop2?
papz
thanks for the info. according to vintage synth the synthi e was made for schools and universities, so there might be more around..??
Elephantbud
thanks for the info.

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Re: #List of rare and freaky synths and how you'd value them

Post by RustyO » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:07 am

ghee hgt wrote:28. Sherman QMF, no further info
95 Sherman QMF's


L.L. Electronics Oddulator

Killian was going to make these before he changed career course. To the best of my knowledge there is only three in the world...

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Hartmann Neuron

Can't be too many of these kicking around?
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