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Post by Voltcontrol » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:58 am

ignatius wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:40 pm
Xmit wrote:Mmm. Very interested. My Analog RYTM has a worried look at the moment ...
the work flows will be drastically different between jomox/elektron products
Hmmmm, a collaboration drum machine between Jomox and Elektron. That would be something very tasty indeed.
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Voltcontrol wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:58 am
ignatius wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:40 pm
Xmit wrote:Mmm. Very interested. My Analog RYTM has a worried look at the moment ...
the work flows will be drastically different between jomox/elektron products
Hmmmm, a collaboration drum machine between Jomox and Elektron. That would be something very tasty indeed.
Just as long as it was Jomox kick sound and Elektron OS/sequencer, and not the other way around :hihi:

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Kattefjaes wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:23 am
Voltcontrol wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:58 am
ignatius wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:40 pm
Xmit wrote:Mmm. Very interested. My Analog RYTM has a worried look at the moment ...
the work flows will be drastically different between jomox/elektron products
Hmmmm, a collaboration drum machine between Jomox and Elektron. That would be something very tasty indeed.
Just as long as it was Jomox kick sound and Elektron OS/sequencer, and not the other way around :hihi:
:roll: :mrgreen:
Gaun Yersel!

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Post by tony d » Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:53 pm

Well my issue of the glitches ended up being on the hardware.
I’ve sent it back to exchange.

Does anyone know if it’s possible to save data such as kit and bpm with patterns?

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Post by Thirolls » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:12 am

tony d wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:53 pm
Well my issue of the glitches ended up being on the hardware.
I’ve sent it back to exchange.

Does anyone know if it’s possible to save data such as kit and bpm with patterns?
Kits and patterns are saved separately in the Alpha Base RAM. A small notebook or a note on your phone will do the job just as well ;)

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Voltcontrol wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:58 am
ignatius wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:40 pm
Xmit wrote:Mmm. Very interested. My Analog RYTM has a worried look at the moment ...
the work flows will be drastically different between jomox/elektron products
Hmmmm, a collaboration drum machine between Jomox and Elektron. That would be something very tasty indeed.
I think Cirklon and Alphabase would be the killer combo. For me, the Jomox Airbase 99 with Cirklon is the best "drum machine" I have used. If there was a rack mount Alphabase with the same midi implemenation as the Airbase for under €1,000, I think it would do well.

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Post by tony d » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:57 pm

Thank you Thirolls!

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minimalist wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:15 am
Voltcontrol wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:58 am
ignatius wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:40 pm
Xmit wrote:Mmm. Very interested. My Analog RYTM has a worried look at the moment ...
the work flows will be drastically different between jomox/elektron products
Hmmmm, a collaboration drum machine between Jomox and Elektron. That would be something very tasty indeed.
I think Cirklon and Alphabase would be the killer combo. For me, the Jomox Airbase 99 with Cirklon is the best "drum machine" I have used. If there was a rack mount Alphabase with the same midi implemenation as the Airbase for under €1,000, I think it would do well.
Put of curiosity, how does the airbase MIDI implementation differ from the Alpha Base?

Context: I control my Alpha Base using a Cirklon and hasn’t felt any limitations, but am curious what I’m not thinking about.

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aaronlevin wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:02 am
minimalist wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:15 am
Voltcontrol wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:58 am
ignatius wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:40 pm
Xmit wrote:Mmm. Very interested. My Analog RYTM has a worried look at the moment ...
the work flows will be drastically different between jomox/elektron products
Hmmmm, a collaboration drum machine between Jomox and Elektron. That would be something very tasty indeed.
I think Cirklon and Alphabase would be the killer combo. For me, the Jomox Airbase 99 with Cirklon is the best "drum machine" I have used. If there was a rack mount Alphabase with the same midi implemenation as the Airbase for under €1,000, I think it would do well.
Put of curiosity, how does the airbase MIDI implementation differ from the Alpha Base?

Context: I control my Alpha Base using a Cirklon and hasn’t felt any limitations, but am curious what I’m not thinking about.
I haven't used Alpha Base and don't know if there is much of a difference in the midi-spec. I assume they are comprehensively similar and therefore there are (almost) no limitations. I would just prefer a 1U rackmount version with a reduced price, just like the Airbase. For me, Jomox & Cirklon is a match made in heaven.

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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:46 pm

Those of you who have played a liveset with the AB, how do you go about it ?
Jam for the whole thing on one kit/pattern ?
Have a few different kits and patterns + tweak a few parameters ?
Fullly organized song mode ?

This would be for a techno set, so not requiring IDM levels of drum programming complexity.
So far I've done ok jamming for 30min on one pattern and tweaking it as I go but that was in the comfort of my studio so I'd need something a bit more secure for live set conditions and was wondering how you guys go about it.
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Post by Eurtrude » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:11 am

Tumulishroomaroom wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:46 pm
Those of you who have played a liveset with the AB, how do you go about it ?
Jam for the whole thing on one kit/pattern ?
Have a few different kits and patterns + tweak a few parameters ?
Fullly organized song mode ?

This would be for a techno set, so not requiring IDM levels of drum programming complexity.
So far I've done ok jamming for 30min on one pattern and tweaking it as I go but that was in the comfort of my studio so I'd need something a bit more secure for live set conditions and was wondering how you guys go about it.
Hey !

One kit / pattern will be a bit redundant for the audience and I find it a bit risky to recreate a kick from scratch on the alphabase during a performance or to browse your sample pool until finding one you like (since it's just numbers on the alphabase screen, unless you know all your samples by heart).

The song mode option is not really great for a live since the kits are not linked to the patterns. Let's say to composed the pattern 1 with kit 1 and pattern 2 with kit 2, moving to pattern 2 in song mode will have the kit 1 still playing (as far as I know).

So, from my experience (2 gigs using the alphabase), the best option IMHO is having differents kits already prepared for the live.
For the patterns, I think you should only programm basic templates and fill them while improvising live, to match the sequences you are programming on the modular, etc.

For exemple, for my last gig, I prepared 4 patterns (32 steps each), each one with :
- 1 kick line
- 1 CHH line
- 1 OHH line
- 1 ride line

Then while performing, i was just choosing a template pattern, a kit, and fill the rest.

I don't know if I made myself very clear (je suis vraiment nul en anglais... :( ).

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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:59 pm

Thanks a lot for the detailed answer, seems like the best solution indeed.
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Post by tony d » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:09 am

Just chiming in to say I hope you record your set and share it with us.

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Post by tony d » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:17 am

Does anyone here have both the Rytm and alpha?

Would you care to talk about strengths and weaknesses comparing the 2?

I know the sequencer we don’t even need to talk about and probably also sample management so I guess what I’m curious is more in the sound quality and cohesion in the overall sound or “groove” of the way the instruments sound together. Also how they sit against other synths in a mix. I can tell from videos that the alpha seems to be clearly coming through but it’s harder to hear from what videos I can find with the Rytm.

I’m still waiting for the replacement of the alpha but it was kind of a toss up between the two so now I’m wondering if I shouldn’t just go with the Rytm.
Thank you to anyone willing to share some of your opinions!

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Re: Jomox ALPHA BASE

Post by dubonaire » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:14 pm

I don't think the Alpha Base will be replaced any time soon.

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Post by tony d » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:44 pm

dubonaire wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:14 pm
I don't think the Alpha Base will be replaced any time soon.
Sorry I wasn’t more specific, I had to return the one I got because there was a issue with one of the encoders but it was the last unit that they had so I’m waiting on the next shipment.

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Post by dubonaire » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:11 pm

Got it.

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Post by Tomorrow Sounds Good » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:01 pm

Is there a programme that batch converts samples to Jomox requirements?

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Post by dubonaire » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:13 pm

Tomorrow Sounds Good wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:01 pm
Is there a programme that batch converts samples to Jomox requirements?
dubonaire wrote:
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[is there an app or program that will convert them for you in bulk?
Yep I use MediaHuman which is free, fast and effective but there are plenty of others. https://www.mediahuman.com/

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Post by Tomorrow Sounds Good » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:08 pm

Thanks

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Post by mome rath » Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:43 pm

holy moly
trying to use the FM synth but I guess.. uh
well it's a jomox interface

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Post by Portabella » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:18 pm

Voltcontrol wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:58 am
Hmmmm, a collaboration drum machine between Jomox and Elektron. That would be something very tasty indeed.
Oh man, Elektron design and OS but Jomox analog drum sounds... a dream.
I'm still waiting for the perfect drummachine

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Post by 6667 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:19 am

mome rath wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:43 pm
holy moly
trying to use the FM synth but I guess.. uh
lmfao i remember that was my first thought trying to figure out the fm synth without the manual. i love how its described as "a little gadget" as if it was tacked onto the machine as an afterthought-- i think i'd miss it if it wasn't there though, its one of the most interesting parts of the ab

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Post by minimalist » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:50 am

Why do I keep checking this thread? It is only going to end badly for me. I would really love a 1U version (sans sequencer) but as I don't see it happening, I might be "forced" to go all in.

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Post by aethyr » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:45 pm

IMO, the AB is the best drum machine out there.
minimalist wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:50 am
Why do I keep checking this thread? It is only going to end badly for me. I would really love a 1U version (sans sequencer) but as I don't see it happening, I might be "forced" to go all in.

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