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Post by Pugilistas » Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:28 pm

Just recently got an Aludu drum from Valterpercussion. Was looking for an udu drum that had playable, controllable feedback. Can report that he was very helpful and communicative, and the design was really well done.

http://www.valterpercussion.com/en/products/aludu/

I checked out Sundrum videos as well, and it's another innovative design, a tunable slit drum/hang drum crossover. Made it on to my list as well. But the Aframe is still at the top of that right now.

As for Aframe usefulness for those without formal training: Do you do a lot of table finger drumming? That propensity would serve you well on drums that favor finger work.

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Post by Nelson Baboon » Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:41 pm

Pugilistas wrote:Just recently got an Aludu drum from Valterpercussion. Was looking for an udu drum that had playable, controllable feedback. Can report that he was very helpful and communicative, and the design was really well done.

http://www.valterpercussion.com/en/products/aludu/

I checked out Sundrum videos as well, and it's another innovative design, a tunable slit drum/hang drum crossover. Made it on to my list as well. But the Aframe is still at the top of that right now.

As for Aframe usefulness for those without formal training: Do you do a lot of table finger drumming? That propensity would serve you well on drums that favor finger work.
yeah - saw that one also, though i think I'd get further with the sundrum. But the aframe is going to happen, partially because I'll have the credit at sweetwater to get it.

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Post by Pugilistas » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:01 am

Nelson Baboon wrote:
Pugilistas wrote:Just recently got an Aludu drum from Valterpercussion. Was looking for an udu drum that had playable, controllable feedback. Can report that he was very helpful and communicative, and the design was really well done.

http://www.valterpercussion.com/en/products/aludu/

I checked out Sundrum videos as well, and it's another innovative design, a tunable slit drum/hang drum crossover. Made it on to my list as well. But the Aframe is still at the top of that right now.

As for Aframe usefulness for those without formal training: Do you do a lot of table finger drumming? That propensity would serve you well on drums that favor finger work.

yeah - saw that one also, though i think I'd get further with the sundrum. But the aframe is going to happen, partially because I'll have the credit at sweetwater to get it.
The Sundrum has an interesting approach. I've seen a few metal tongue drums using magnets to change pitch, but never a wooden one. Built in microphone is also a highly useful addition.

When I finish paying off Sweetwater what I owe, I'll have open credit there too. Danger! Danger! Will Robinson....

I'm not lacking in synths, but the Aludu makes me want to play every time I look at it. Whatever instrument beckons like that is a winner. Pretty sure the Aframe would slot into that sort of thing as well. Also, it's the last instrument design developed under the guidance of Kakehasi-san.

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Post by dan_p » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:29 am

Nelson Baboon wrote: my biggest concern is how difficult it might be to play for someone with no experience at playing 'real' percussion instruments.
The main difference between picking this up and say a traditional frame drum is that with a frame drum etc you need a bit of technique to make a nice sound. Basic strokes are easy enough to develop but if your relaxed and hitting a drum correctly it will sound better. Due to the way the aFrame generates a tone the technique when you hit the drum is less important, it still makes a difference, just that it isn't imperative to have good technique. It can also be played in many different ways. I tend to play it like you would a larger frame drum, but thats because I used to play frame drums. I've played Kanjira, tambourine etc so I have some technique available. The aFrame is also very sensitive, the slightest movement can create a tone so even without technique you can create a lot of variety when playing and be expressive.
rayce wrote:Dan you should get a commission from ATV for how many folks you have inspired to pick one of these up.
Yeah, that would be great, feel free to mention it to them LOL!! :75: :hihi:
Pugilistas wrote:Just recently got an Aludu drum from Valterpercussion. Was looking for an udu drum that had playable, controllable feedback. Can report that he was very helpful and communicative, and the design was really well done.

I checked out Sundrum videos as well, and it's another innovative design, a tunable slit drum/hang drum crossover.
Thanks for the heads up, the Aludu and Sundrum look great. I think I'll pick them up. You can never have too much percussion!!
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Post by deltaphoenix » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:41 pm

DAMN, this thing is FUN!

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Post by dan_p » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:12 pm

Well, I did try to tell you!!

I've been having loads of fun running it into effects.
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Post by dan_p » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:45 am

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Post by deltaphoenix » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:41 pm

Awesome Dan, I will give this a spin on Sunday.

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Post by Funky40 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:22 am

so i just stumbled yesterday over the aFrame again. last time was when this thread was opened.
Damn, ......there it has to go my backhand money......i need to have one.
( see you at another point in time octatrack mkII. lol )

my question: guess there is nothing new to expect for coming booths, no hardware etc. revision, no mkII model ?


damn, sounds too awesome........and then thru some modular FX ........positiv :roll:

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Post by Funky40 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:39 am

(guess the above question is not to answer, but if anybody has infos .....;) )

and:
they use a strap, but can´t see if it is coming with the aframe ?
if not, what would i have to get ?

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Post by mrcharles » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:11 pm

This one is acoustic... but sounds lovely... and seems a very competitive price compared to the others in the field...

http://ravvast.com/

and an example video...

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Post by Funky40 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:14 am

has really nobody here some insight for me to what strap system i should or could take ?


seems the aFrame is not ready made for straps at all.
the thomann Guy couldn´t help either.
i need to have straps with it................can´t order anything without having some insight on this subject


edit: they use SLR camerastraps.
this is the link the ATV Guy sent me
https://customslr.com/products/starter-bundle

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Post by Funky40 » Wed May 02, 2018 10:28 am

..........and now: unboxing time, hehehe


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sorry, couldn´t resist

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Post by scottmoon » Wed May 02, 2018 11:41 am

Funky40 wrote:..........and now: unboxing time, hehehe
:hihi:
sorry, couldn´t resist
Didn't happen unless there is pics. :woah:
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Post by Funky40 » Sun May 13, 2018 4:28 pm

need help:
i stumbled somewhere over a note of a new "sound set".
Just that i can´t find it now again.
has anybody a link ?


and: i downloaded a soundfile or two from the userbase. seem to be singkle sounds
i couldn´t load them in the a frame. I am now on the latest OS.

@Scott:
...what could pics have told you ?...while i´ve not recorded my jamms with the DLD :oops:

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Post by scottmoon » Sun May 13, 2018 8:47 pm

I was just kidding.

Here's a video on new sounds. Install instructions under video.

[video][/video]
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Post by Funky40 » Mon May 14, 2018 1:28 pm

scottmoon wrote: Here's a video on new sounds. Install instructions under video.
Great, this was it.
Thank You scottmoon

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Post by Panason » Tue May 15, 2018 6:18 pm

dan_p wrote:
I was at the London Music Show when Korg released the original Wave Drum, it was pretty exciting. I couldn't afford one though. The years later they released it again in a cut down format but with more "ethnic" sampled instruments, I bought one and it was really underwhelming. I remember thinking that I wished it was 2 grand and worked well rather than 300 quid and was sh!te. .
I just saw this and I cannot let it slide... :razz:

You must be thinking of the Wavedrum mini. The Wavedrum re-issue is not sample based, it uses DSP on the impulses on the skin and the rim as well as pressure on the skin to synthesize sound. It has multiple algorithms and it kicks ass.
You can play it with fingers or smash it with sticks. It has insane dynamic range and it has more than 2 sensors. The algorithms are not limited to "ethnic" sounds. Some of the the bass sounds can do serious damage. It costs over 400 quid and is definitely not shite. It has slightly fewer algorithms than the original (but still a good number) and lacks an external editor.

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Post by Pugilistas » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:02 pm

Finally made the jump, and picked up the Aframe. What fun! Been going through and picking out the voices I like the best, and previewing new voices (and the upgrades to the 2.0 firmware).

Got the upgrade to the 1.20 firmware to work, but so far absolutely no luck getting the editor to open on my Win10 system. Anyone had an issue like this that solved cleverly?

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Post by dan_p » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:26 am

aFramers of the world rejoice for firmware 1.9 is upon us.

http://www.aframe.jp
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Post by justscratch » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:08 pm

appreciate the heads up.. looks like a nice update

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Post by deltaphoenix » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:12 pm

Thanks Dan!

I am moving this weekend so maybe I can get this firmware onto mine in a week or two.

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Post by SPIKE the Percussionist » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:15 pm

dan_p wrote:aFramers of the world rejoice for firmware 1.9 is upon us.

http://www.aframe.jp
you mean OS 2.0.
:P

i just stumbled on this thread...didn't know there were other with an Aframe users on here.

i picked mine up at PASIC in November!

started working with the afFrame and a Rav drum recently.
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Post by dan_p » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:08 pm

Yes, well, sort of. Its listed as 1.9 but will be 2.0 any day now. They suggested it would be finalised and up issued post NAMM.

I'd love a go on a RAV drum. I have a couple of Hand Pans (they don't get enough love though.)

Heres a quick vid of a sound I was tweaking last night. The new sound bank does have a lot of the more film score type crazy stuff but the aFrame is awesome at simpler more organic tones too. Excuse the sloppy playing, I was sound tweaking and hadn't got my chops together.

[video][/video]
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dan_p wrote:aFramers of the world rejoice for firmware 1.9 is upon us.

http://www.aframe.jp
you mean OS 2.0.
:P

i just stumbled on this thread...didn't know there were other with an Aframe users on here.

i picked mine up at PASIC in November!

started working with the afFrame and a Rav drum recently.
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Post by Funky40 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:51 pm

don´t mind, wrong thread. sorry !

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