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Post by murch33 » Mon May 11, 2020 11:22 pm

In stock at Perfect Circuit. Tempting.

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Post by gummyboy » Mon May 11, 2020 11:47 pm

Where can I get the manual?

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Post by Synth Con Meo » Mon May 11, 2020 11:53 pm

murch33 wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 11:22 pm
In stock at Perfect Circuit. Tempting.
I just checked right when this was posted (about the same time I got the email from them), they say that they are expecting more shortly. Don't know if they had them in stock and they sold out in minutes or they are kind of pre-ordering.
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Re: Moogfest Sub-Harmonicon - What Is It?

Post by anselmi » Tue May 12, 2020 12:20 am

murch33 wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 11:22 pm
In stock at Perfect Circuit. Tempting.
$699? well, it´s a bit on the expensive side for me...I expected something in the $500-600 range
I was curious before, but now I don´t think it would add a lot for my music making...I can see me just jamming and procrastinating a lot with this thing without using it in anything musical

I hope they (Moog Music) sells a lot though, I think it´s an good and original product and I this is the best way for them to continue releasing new stuff.

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Re: Moogfest Sub-Harmonicon - What Is It?

Post by Standup » Tue May 12, 2020 12:47 am

I was interested in this thing immediately when they did the Moogfest version, but didn’t have time or money to attend. Since then I’ve also gotten drawn in by the verbos harmonic oscillator, which has a cool sound. And is also about $700 new. Interesting. Do I want harmonics up or down? Obv. the Subharmonicon Does rhythmic variations too. And also $700 is kind of a lot.

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Post by Licudi » Tue May 12, 2020 2:27 am

The Perfect Circuit demo is grim (no doubt there'll be others later today), but I can't argue with their selling price - US$630 is a lot less than it'll cost in the UK. As an aside, the Matriarch SRP is now £550 less in the US than the UK!

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Post by Voltcontrol » Tue May 12, 2020 2:38 am

murch33 wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 11:22 pm
In stock at Perfect Circuit. Tempting.
Did Moog just skip a product launch and push this product straight into retail?

That's one way to cut Marketing cost.. Guess that there will be enough hype around this to shift enough units into our hands any way.
Still very interested and hope more demo's showing off it's sound an capabilities land very soon!

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Re: Moogfest Sub-Harmonicon - What Is It?

Post by Richard deHove » Tue May 12, 2020 3:16 am

Usually Perfect Circuit do pretty good demos. This time though it's laughably terrible. I'm pretty sure whoever was doing the demo didn't understand anything about it. At least it's served to damp down my GAS.

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Post by Xmit » Tue May 12, 2020 4:01 am

that's a shocking demo from Perfect Demo :foul: :lol:

But I still want one, because I know what it should sound like...

Obviously we'll pay way over the odds in the UK as usual...

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Post by Fog Door » Tue May 12, 2020 5:42 am

$699? well, it´s a bit on the expensive side for me...I expected something in the $500-600 range
I was curious before, but now I don´t think it would add a lot for my music making...I can see me just jamming and procrastinating a lot with this thing without using it in anything musical
I agree, I'm a bit surprised by the price point. I would still like to get one at some point but it has now gone to the back of the queue. If it had been about the same price as DFAM/M32 I would have bought one straight away. Strange decision by Moog if you ask me.

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Moog Subharmonicon

Post by stringtapper » Tue May 12, 2020 7:20 am

Perfect Circuit has put up the production model of the Moog Subharmonicon for pre-order!

https://www.perfectcircuit.com/moog-subharmonicon.html

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Re: Moogfest Sub-Harmonicon - What Is It?

Post by electricfence » Tue May 12, 2020 7:47 am

Well, I've seen Mother 32s and DFAMs for as low as $500 new -- in fact, they were going for that at Moogfest last year -- but I just looked and Sweetwater has the MSRP for those models listed at $649, so $699 isn't that big of a stretch, at least as part of their eurorack lineup. (I'll reserve judgement on whether it's "worth it" objectively.)

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Re: Moog Subharmonicon

Post by bayrumblues » Tue May 12, 2020 7:49 am

Demo Video


Not...the most appealing demo I've ever heard. But I am sure it can do some cool shit in the right hands.

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Post by luketeaford » Tue May 12, 2020 8:00 am

I think it sounds bad in every demo except for JakoGreyshire's, but more importantly for me it seems extremely limited in terms of modulation or what it adds to say a M32/DFAM combo. Another EG and some weird short sequencers-- ok cool, whatever. Maybe I simply don't understand the appeal of this, but I can't imagine replacing a M32 with this (which is cheaper and much more flexible). And it's more expensive? And MIDI input takes up one of the 32 jacks on the right.

Just intonation is super cool though and I like subharmonics in general (this is something I patch all the time with my serge system).

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Re: Moogfest Sub-Harmonicon - What Is It?

Post by purpur » Tue May 12, 2020 8:25 am

Found this one on youtube


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Re: Moog Subharmonicon

Post by stringtapper » Tue May 12, 2020 8:34 am

Yeah, that demo raised an eyebrow for sure. Looking forward to a good demo when Moog announces it officially.

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Re: Moogfest Sub-Harmonicon - What Is It?

Post by Licudi » Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 am

Some of the official Moog patches uploaded by Rob Redman of Bath. So at least one SubH is in the UK!

https://soundcloud.com/oysterhouseboys/ ... on-patches

No Perfect Circuit-style bollocks there...

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Post by DSC » Tue May 12, 2020 9:02 am

The name is more impressive than the synth!!

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Re: Moog Subharmonicon

Post by Licudi » Tue May 12, 2020 9:04 am

There's a 10-page thread here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=198086&start=225

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Re: Moogfest Sub-Harmonicon - What Is It?

Post by Voltcontrol » Tue May 12, 2020 9:31 am

I've quickly looked back at Moogs early workbench demo's prior to the workshop, that got me excited about this device. Still hoping for demo's that will do it justice. My enthusiasm for the Subharmonicon is starting to sink.

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Re: Moog Subharmonicon

Post by stringtapper » Tue May 12, 2020 9:48 am

Licudi wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 9:04 am
There's a 10-page thread here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=198086&start=225
…that was originally about the Moogfest edition from two years ago, while this thread is about the production model.

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Re: Moog Subharmonicon

Post by aphex2000 » Tue May 12, 2020 9:57 am

very interested! was close to getting a mother32 to pair up with my dfam but this looks like more fun!

another video popped up (unfortunately with a ton of reverb):

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Re: Moogfest Sub-Harmonicon - What Is It?

Post by murch33 » Tue May 12, 2020 10:34 am

Standup wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 12:47 am
I was interested in this thing immediately when they did the Moogfest version, but didn’t have time or money to attend. Since then I’ve also gotten drawn in by the verbos harmonic oscillator, which has a cool sound. And is also about $700 new. Interesting. Do I want harmonics up or down? Obv. the Subharmonicon Does rhythmic variations too. And also $700 is kind of a lot.
I’m not terribly experienced with Euro (wasted a ton of money, made zero music, got out), but the Harmonic Oscillator is one of only 3-4 modules that I still think about. If I ever get back into Euro it’ll be at least partially because of the HO.

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